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Sun Dec 15, 2019, 04:50 PM

 

Boston Globe Confirms Sanders Surge // "Best Shot At The Nomination"

Let's begin with the inevitable objections:

1) James Pindell is a staff analyst at the Boston Globe, not an independent media figure, Sanders flunky, toady or campaign surrogate.

2) The Boston Globe is one of the nation's oldest, largest and most respected periodicals.

3) The article linked below was run as political analysis, not outside opinion, thus subject to the news staff's and ombudsman's standards reporting standards.

4) On the semantics of surge, Pindell used the words, "He has reclaimed the lead in New Hampshire." If others claim that he trails distantly in the Granite States, my abacus informs me that Sanders has proved his surge there, at bare minimum, to the Boston Globe.

5) Whereas my previous threads on the subject of the Sanders Surge have left me open to (baseless) claims that I merely engage is reporting opinion as fact, the article below makes an indelible, affirmative judgment of those same facts as cold, hard proof. Furthermore, it does so as the hometown newspaper of another candidate for the Democratic nomination who happens to be that state's senior United States senator.

6) This article in no way proves victory in the quest for the nomination but CONCRETELY AND INDUBITABLY PROVES the existence of the Sanders Surge.

Bernie Sanders is not only back, he has the best shot at the nomination right now

By James Pindell Globe Staff, December 13, 2019, 2:58 p.m.

[full article here]


IMAGE CREDIT: KRYSTAL RAMIREZ/LAS VEGAS SUN VIA AP

Two months ago, it didnít look good for Bernie Sanders or his presidential campaign. He was at a Las Vegas-area hospital recovering from a heart attack. Polls in Iowa and New Hampshire showed him way back in third place among Democrats. Meanwhile, Elizabeth Warren, his rival for the progressive wing for the Democratic presidential electorate, was surging and, at the time, was leading the race.

To some, it felt like the beginning of the end of Sandersí six-year-long White House effort. The health scare, after all, offered him a chance to bow out of the race, save face, and use his clout to further push the field to the left.

But the terrible, no good, very bad moment for Sanders ended up being just a blip.

With approximately 50 days before the Iowa caucuses, Sanders is not only back, but he has the cleanest shot at the 2020 Democratic nomination. (emphasis added)


[full article here]
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Reply Boston Globe Confirms Sanders Surge // "Best Shot At The Nomination" (Original post)
corbettkroehler Dec 2019 OP
NYMinute Dec 2019 #1
corbettkroehler Dec 2019 #4
George II Dec 2019 #2
corbettkroehler Dec 2019 #8
George II Dec 2019 #13
evertonfc Dec 2019 #3
NYMinute Dec 2019 #7
Amimnoch Dec 2019 #16
lapucelle Dec 2019 #5
corbettkroehler Dec 2019 #9
Uncle Joe Dec 2019 #6
blm Dec 2019 #10
msongs Dec 2019 #11
corbettkroehler Dec 2019 #12
Gothmog Dec 2019 #14
Green Line Dec 2019 #15
TwilightZone Dec 2019 #17
Scurrilous Dec 2019 #21
Buzz cook Dec 2019 #18
Doitnow Dec 2019 #19
Me. Dec 2019 #20

Response to corbettkroehler (Original post)

Sun Dec 15, 2019, 04:56 PM

1. Delusional wishful thinking

 

Pindell has been in the tank for BS for a long time.
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Response to NYMinute (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 15, 2019, 04:58 PM

4. Not To Worry, I Was Under No Delusions That I Could Convince You

 

Fortunately, the Boston Globe has hundreds of thousands of subscribers influenced far more by staff writers than this humble discussion board post.
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Response to corbettkroehler (Original post)

Sun Dec 15, 2019, 04:57 PM

2. Funny thing, though - in the midst of this so-called "surge" he's lost ground to Biden.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 15, 2019, 04:59 PM

8. And The Line, "He has reclaimed the lead in New Hampshire."?

 

I offered this as proof of a Sanders surge. It is proof, at least in New Hampshire, home to the first-in-the-nation primary. That sentence needs no elaboration or further support.
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Response to corbettkroehler (Reply #8)

Sun Dec 15, 2019, 05:14 PM

13. Funny how things can be presented:

 

Most recent BOSTON GLOBE/Suffolk poll:

Sanders 16
Buttigieg 13
Biden 12
Warren 14

Previous Boston Globe/Suffolk poll:

Sanders 17
Buttigieg 6
Biden 21
Warren 14

He's down 1 point overall and has lost 8 points to Buttigieg and 1 point to Warren. The only top contender that didn't gain on him is Biden.


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Response to corbettkroehler (Original post)

Sun Dec 15, 2019, 04:57 PM

3. Trump

 

can only hope this is true. Trump will win 306-346 EVs
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Response to evertonfc (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 15, 2019, 04:59 PM

7. He will win over 400 nt

 

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Response to evertonfc (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 15, 2019, 05:27 PM

16. Regardless of our choice, winning is not a slam dunk by any stretch.

 

Incumbent year - historically this gives Trump a huge advantage. Incumbents in presidential elections, with few exceptions tend to win the 2nd term.

Thanks to President Obama, even with that horrendous disaster of a ďtax planĒ, the economy President Obama rebuilt out of the great recession has endured. Wonderful reflection of the miracle that was President Obama, but again, doesnít help our chances for 2020. Incumbents with a strong economy tend to get reelected.

Trump is not facing any serious primary challenge at all. He is amassing a HUGE war chest to bring into the General. Combine that with:

We have one HUGE friggin mess of a contentious mass population of candidates in our own primary. GREAT for Democracy. HORRIBLE for the paradigm of the prior points I raise above. Our candidates are spending as fast as they get it to go after each other while Trump just builds.. NOT a good combination.

The only good thing at the moment is in the critical General Election swing states that are REQUIRED to be won to get to 270, 2 of our 3 frontrunners are polling better than Trump, and the third is in a very close race in most of those states (within MOE). However, with Trump mostly sitting back, amassing all that $$, and just twitter-sniping our candidates occasionally to keep the pot stirred well, Iím very uneasy in placing a lot of weight on these polls at this time.. but itís all I have to go by.
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Response to corbettkroehler (Original post)

Sun Dec 15, 2019, 04:58 PM

5. So, to be clear, The Globe neither used the word "surge" nor confirmed that there is a surge.

 

Got it.
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Response to lapucelle (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 15, 2019, 05:01 PM

9. Color Me Shocked - You Read It Exactly Backwards

 

The sentence, "He has reclaimed the lead in New Hampshire." is all the proof anyone should need of the existence of the surge. The fact that it came from a staff writer of your candidate's hometown paper should make it an even more stinging rebuke.
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Response to corbettkroehler (Original post)

Sun Dec 15, 2019, 04:59 PM

6. Kicked and recommended.

 

Thanks for the thread corbettkroehler.
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Response to corbettkroehler (Original post)

Sun Dec 15, 2019, 05:01 PM

10. That's what some wanted when their camps piled on Warren for 3months straight.

 

Isnít it? Or did their Ďstrategistsí not think it through as they encouraged those overthetop attacks on Warren and the constant lies catapulted against her integrity and character?

Every one of those attacks were posted here at DU....repeatedly.....for over 3 solid months.

Perhaps they assumed Sandersís health would stop him, so they laid off of him for a few months while they targeted Warren.
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Response to corbettkroehler (Original post)

Sun Dec 15, 2019, 05:01 PM

11. so the massive media blackout of bernie is now over? nt

 

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Response to msongs (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 15, 2019, 05:08 PM

12. The Blackout Is More Like A Dam And This Is An Important Crack

 

We should remember that James Pindell's work is featured not only in print but on WBUR broadcasts.

On a related note, further proving the point of the Bernie Blackout, CNN has admitted to the same. Here's the original sin and the correction.




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Response to corbettkroehler (Original post)

Sun Dec 15, 2019, 05:19 PM

14. I really doubt that sanders will be the nominee

 

There are too many real democrats who have good memories and who will not forgive or forget
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Response to corbettkroehler (Original post)

Sun Dec 15, 2019, 05:23 PM

15. I have a Globe subscription

 

Pindell is laughable
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Response to corbettkroehler (Original post)

Sun Dec 15, 2019, 05:35 PM

17. You have an odd definition of "surge"

 

A one-point gain in one poll in one state is not by any reasonable definition a surge.
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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #17)

Sun Dec 15, 2019, 07:02 PM

21. Maybe it's a resurge.

 

Because he has surged before.


What's behind the Sanders surge? (August 13, 2015)

https://www.cnn.com/2015/08/13/politics/bernie-sanders-2016-surge/index.html


Then co-surged while others stalled and seethed.


Trump and Sanders surge, Congress stalls, voters seethe (Aug 3, 2015)

https://www.heralddemocrat.com/news/politics/national-politics/trump-and-sanders-surge-congress-stalls-voters-seethe


Surged into the lexicon.

surging sanders

"According to the Daily Show's Trevor Noah, the Surging Sanders is "when you come out of nowhere": a sexually charged pun based on Bernie Sanders' sudden appearance."

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=surging%20sanders


Then unsurged.


The Bernie Sanders Surge Appears To Be Over (AUG. 11, 2015)

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-bernie-sanders-surge-appears-to-be-over/


Returned again to surge some more.


Sanders team accuses media of ignoring 'surge' in polls (11/06/19)

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/469143-sanders-team-accuses-media-of-ignoring-surge-in-polls


Co-surged while others slipped.


Sanders, Buttigieg surge in New Hampshire as Biden, Warren slip: poll (11/27/2019)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/sanders-buttigieg-surge-in-new-hampshire-as-biden-warren-slip-poll/ar-BBXoeXS


Co-slid while others surged.


Harris and Warren Surge, While Biden and Sanders Slide in Post-Debate Polls (July 2, 2019)

https://fortune.com/2019/07/02/harris-warren-biden-sanders-latest-polls/


Held while others surged and slipped.


WARREN SURGES, BIDEN SLIPS, AND SANDERS HOLDS, THREE WAY DEAD HEAT FOR THE NOMINATION (September 24, 2019)

http://emersonpolling.com/2019/09/24/warren-surges-biden-slips-and-sanders-steadies-three-way-dead-heat-for-the-nomination/


Ride the wild surge.


Bernie Sanders surges in California primary poll (Dec 5, 2019)

https://www.axios.com/bernie-sanders-california-primary-poll-3c47c04d-71a5-400c-adef-e48668af682c.html


And yet...


Despite Everything, Bernie Sanders Is Still in Second Place in the Democratic Primary (December 2, 2019)

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2019/12/bernie-sanders-second-behind-biden.html



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Response to corbettkroehler (Original post)

Sun Dec 15, 2019, 05:39 PM

18. If Sanders wins New Hampshire

 

It will look like 2016.
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Response to corbettkroehler (Original post)

Sun Dec 15, 2019, 05:51 PM

19. I have a different opinion. Remember, Dump is exellent at diversion. He keeps Biden in view as

 

his biggest threat,------when in reality, he's more afraid of Bernie. So, he, along with the media, reThugs and centrist Dems ignore Bernie and/or smear him left and right in an attempt to disqualify him any way they can. Well, we'll just see who will win.

Another donation on its way to Bernie.

Go, Bernie
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Response to corbettkroehler (Original post)

Sun Dec 15, 2019, 06:33 PM

20. "This article in no way proves victory in the quest for the nomination"

 

'nough said!
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