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VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 01:22 AM Mar 2019

Ranking candidates by how they say they will govern--most progressive to least

I'm intrigued by Buttigieg, but in my research, I cant get a good feel for where he stands on the political spectrum. With O'Rourke, another one I'm researching, his record seems to be more to the middle than how he's running for President. I'm interested in how some of you would rank the candidates by how they say they will govern on the spectrum of most progressive to least.

Right now, I'm a very soft Biden supporter but am likely about to change.

If any of you can take a stab at ranking the candidates, I would be grateful.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Ranking candidates by how they say they will govern--most progressive to least (Original Post) VarryOn Mar 2019 OP
How they govern is not just an ideological question Renew Deal Mar 2019 #1
Good point.... VarryOn Mar 2019 #5
In what areas? dalton99a Mar 2019 #2
I'm so tired of these freaking labels! Who cares?! AlexSFCA Mar 2019 #3
A simplistic label like this is meaningless ... except to maybe "real Progressives" with an SFnomad Mar 2019 #4
You need to do your research. LakeArenal Mar 2019 #6
I agree 100%. Who gives a rats ass who is a pure progressive or not demosincebirth Mar 2019 #7
No queation about it, I'll be supporting the Democratic nominee... VarryOn Mar 2019 #8
I'll give this a stab PDittie Mar 2019 #9
Thanks, PD VarryOn Mar 2019 #10
Being from Texas PDittie Mar 2019 #13
Honestly, I really don't care. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #11
Velveteen, you and I are aligned on this... VarryOn Mar 2019 #12
 

Renew Deal

(81,852 posts)
1. How they govern is not just an ideological question
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 01:31 AM
Mar 2019

It's also a question of their skills and judgement. An example would be Cynthia Nixon in NY. She took every left wing position she could think of, but could you trust her in a crisis?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
5. Good point....
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 02:17 AM
Mar 2019

Excuse the question. Although it was asked in good faith, I should have put more thought into it. I'm really wanting to have my "own" candidate to champion for. I'm not there yet and it's frustrating . Patience, I know!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
3. I'm so tired of these freaking labels! Who cares?!
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 01:50 AM
Mar 2019

Pete is a self proclaimed democratic capitalist.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
4. A simplistic label like this is meaningless ... except to maybe "real Progressives" with an
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 02:11 AM
Mar 2019

"us vs. them" mentality who want to knock anyone who is not pure enough.

A one size fits all label doesn't mean anything because most people are a combination of progressiveness over a variety of issues and don't fit into a nice, neat, single pigeonhole for everything. Some people are more or less progressive on social issues than they are on economic ones. How would you rank someone who is very progressive on social issue, but far less so on economic ones? Some people are very progressive, except for maybe a single issue (or two) where they are not ... how do you rank them?

But please, continue to separate Democrats into this "us vs. them" mentality. Continue fragmenting us. Continue keeping us arguing among ourselves. And continue looking down on people we need to be able to be beat the Republicans. The tRumpanzees and Putin will love you for making their job easier.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(28,813 posts)
6. You need to do your research.
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 02:23 AM
Mar 2019

My definition of most progressive not the same as others.

It’s not who’s most progressive. More so, who can accomplish the Party goals most effectively.

My goal is to beat trump. We have great candidates. Which one can beat trump.

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demosincebirth

(12,536 posts)
7. I agree 100%. Who gives a rats ass who is a pure progressive or not
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 02:53 AM
Mar 2019

Screw the labels and lets just get someone who can take on that pigheaded in the whitehouse and win.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
8. No queation about it, I'll be supporting the Democratic nominee...
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 03:17 AM
Mar 2019

I'll have the bumpersticker, attend all the local rallies, and max out the legal giving limits. Still, I'll likely have a preference for the primary....and that was the subject of my original post. I'm trying to learn more about Buttigieg. Fortunately, we have some great candidates...the best ever!

I think 2020 will be a particularly good year to be a Democrat. 2018 was jusrt an appetizer!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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PDittie

(8,322 posts)
9. I'll give this a stab
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 08:24 AM
Mar 2019

left to center-left:

Bernie
Tulsi
Warren
Marianne Williamson
Jay Inslee
Andrew Yang
Mayor Pete
Kamala
Cory Booker
Beto

too difficult for me to distinguish between, in center to center-right:
Kristen Gillibrand
Amy Klobuchar
Julian Castro
Joe Biden
John Hickenlooper
John Delaney

YMMV.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
10. Thanks, PD
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 12:54 PM
Mar 2019

I know this is a subjective exercise that some dont like. And I understand why, but dont necessarily agree. Based on my limited knowledge so far, I largely agree with your list. I would have guessed Sanders would be ranked where he did, but Gabbard surprised me. O'Rourke and Castro surprised me on your list, too

My pref falls more toward the center. However, it seems that's not where the more popular candidates camp out

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

PDittie

(8,322 posts)
13. Being from Texas
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 08:36 PM
Mar 2019

and being left myself, I have a somewhat jaundiced view of Beto and Castro's progressivism.

I am also strongly anti-war and anti-interventionist, so perhaps that helps explain my bias in the scoring above. Reasonable can politely disagree, and I hope your post draws some more opinions as food for thought.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,659 posts)
11. Honestly, I really don't care.
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 01:21 PM
Mar 2019

The meanings of "progressive" and "centrist" are flexible and vague on a good day; what I'm interested in is which of these excellent candidates has the best chance of beating Trump. All of them support the basic Democratic Party goals of accessible health care, dealing with climate change, protecting the civil rights of all citizens, a humane immigration policy, fair taxation, livable wages, etc., etc., etc. There will always be disagreements among Democrats about exactly how to achieve those goals, but the important point is that they are goals that Trump and the GOP do not like and will not support. So my favored candidate will be the Democrat who can beat Trump, and I especially don't give a crap about ideological purity.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
12. Velveteen, you and I are aligned on this...
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 01:44 PM
Mar 2019

Beating the President is THE number one goal. And to do so, there are no sacred cow issues, if that's what it takes.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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