Mon Dec 2, 2019, 09:28 PM
JoeOtterbein (3,527 posts)
No malarkey? Biden's old-school slogan gets mocked and praised in Iowa[link:https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/02/democrat-voters-biden-malarkey-campaign-slogan-074727|
"I’m afraid he’s going to be disregarded as, 'Ok, boomer,'" says one Iowa voter. By NATASHA KORECKI 12/02/2019 05:01 AM EST CARROLL, Iowa – “NO MALARKEY!” screams the campaign slogan on Joe Biden’s bus chugging through 18 Iowa counties this week. At stops along the way, aides hand out stickers and posters featuring the rallying cry. But when one high schooler attending the former vice president’s event in Council Bluffs was asked whether she knew what malarkey means, she squinted up at the massive bus with a puzzled look. “Malarkey?” Cece West asked. “I’ve never heard of it before.” West’s response highlights a potential problem with a term that Biden has put at the center of his candidacy in the first-in-the-nation caucus state. And some of the complaints about it are an extension of how Biden skeptics feel about the candidate himself. They don’t love or hate the slogan. Some of them said it’s kind of funny; others, kind of corny. While some voters welcomed the slogan as a throwback to a calmer era, others said it will only alienate younger voters. But many said, bottom line, they don’t quite get it. snip
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Bernie Sanders |
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elleng | Dec 2 | #1 | |
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elleng | Dec 2 | #4 | |
virgogal | Dec 2 | #29 | |
Rhiannon12866 | Dec 3 | #64 | |
Autumn | Dec 2 | #3 | |
TwilightZone | Dec 2 | #6 | |
Autumn | Dec 2 | #9 | |
Gothmog | Dec 2 | #11 | |
Autumn | Dec 2 | #15 | |
InAbLuEsTaTe | Dec 2 | #28 | |
myohmy2 | Dec 2 | #38 | |
Thekaspervote | Dec 2 | #5 | |
ChubbyStar | Dec 2 | #31 | |
Thekaspervote | Dec 2 | #43 | |
ChubbyStar | Dec 2 | #48 | |
Thekaspervote | Dec 2 | #53 | |
still_one | Dec 2 | #32 | |
Docreed2003 | Dec 2 | #7 | |
Autumn | Dec 2 | #12 | |
Thekaspervote | Dec 2 | #16 | |
Autumn | Dec 2 | #20 | |
TwilightZone | Dec 2 | #22 | |
Thekaspervote | Dec 2 | #44 | |
Autumn | Dec 3 | #81 | |
OilemFirchen | Dec 2 | #27 | |
ChubbyStar | Dec 2 | #33 | |
OilemFirchen | Dec 2 | #37 | |
ChubbyStar | Dec 2 | #39 | |
OilemFirchen | Dec 2 | #47 | |
Autumn | Dec 3 | #73 | |
Autumn | Dec 3 | #71 | |
OilemFirchen | Dec 3 | #85 | |
PatSeg | Dec 2 | #34 | |
Thekaspervote | Dec 2 | #46 | |
PatSeg | Dec 3 | #62 | |
Autumn | Dec 3 | #72 | |
PatSeg | Dec 3 | #74 | |
Autumn | Dec 3 | #76 | |
TwilightZone | Dec 2 | #13 | |
Cha | Dec 2 | #19 | |
Thekaspervote | Dec 2 | #49 | |
Gothmog | Dec 2 | #8 | |
TwilightZone | Dec 2 | #10 | |
Thekaspervote | Dec 2 | #17 | |
Cha | Dec 2 | #21 | |
Deb | Dec 2 | #14 | |
Thekaspervote | Dec 2 | #18 | |
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Thekaspervote | Dec 2 | #50 | |
oldsoftie | Dec 2 | #24 | |
Thekaspervote | Dec 2 | #51 | |
ChubbyStar | Dec 2 | #59 | |
emmaverybo | Dec 2 | #25 | |
msongs | Dec 2 | #26 | |
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Cha | Dec 3 | #63 | |
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Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 09:29 PM
elleng (93,723 posts)
1. According to Oxford Dictionaries, malarkey is "meaningless talk;
nonsense," it came into use in the 1920s and its specific origin is unknown. There is an Irish name — Mullarkey.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to elleng (Reply #1)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 09:32 PM
bucolic_frolic (14,014 posts)
2. Yes it's an Irish expression and Biden is Irish
Blarney means about the same thing.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #2)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 09:35 PM
elleng (93,723 posts)
4. Right.
Kind of: talk that aims to charm, pleasantly flatter, or persuade.
"he had the “street charm” of an Irish politician, but this blarney concealed his inner self" Kissing the Blarney Stone is said to bestow "the gift of eloquence," otherwise known as the gift of gab or just being a really good talker, upon those who pucker up. ... To properly kiss the Blarney Stone, the kisser must lean backwards and essentially kiss the stone upside down ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #2)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 10:34 PM
virgogal (9,598 posts)
29. I'm Boston Irish....we would say, "Cut the malarkey." when
people were giving us bull****!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Elizabeth Warren |
Response to elleng (Reply #1)
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:05 AM
Rhiannon12866 (108,821 posts)
64. He actually has the definition painted on the side of his tour bus:
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 09:33 PM
Autumn (36,610 posts)
3. Most young people won't get it but the little old ladies in the Bingo group will love it.
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Bernie Sanders |
Response to Autumn (Reply #3)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 09:37 PM
TwilightZone (13,701 posts)
6. Those little old ladies vote.
And at a pace roughly double that of the young.
Alienate them at your candidate's peril. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to TwilightZone (Reply #6)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 09:40 PM
Autumn (36,610 posts)
9. Yeah, the article said older people vote, and we sure do. I've never missed an election in my life.
My candidate will do just fine. The article also said young people don't get the term. Maybe we shouldn't alienate them.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Bernie Sanders |
Response to Autumn (Reply #3)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 09:42 PM
Gothmog (76,396 posts)
11. Here is some history
Link to tweet The heyday of “malarkey” on the pages of The Post came in the 1980s. There were a few little bursts before, including in the late 1800s, when Washington Senators pitcher John Malarkey was racking up a grim 2-10 record over three seasons. In the 1940s, Western High School slugger Jack Malarkey got fairly regular write-ups in the paper. By the 1980s, though, the word’s appearances were mostly of the sort that Biden would appreciate. By the 2000s, the popularity of the word had died again.
![]() Google’s extensive index of books allows us to see how the popularity of words evolves over time. Its Ngram tool shows the frequency of words as a percentage of all words from books published in a particular year. That data shows that use of “malarkey” spiked in books in the 1980s, just as it did in The Post. Interestingly, “malarkey” seems to have edged out “malarky,” with the latter spelling dying out from the 1960s on, as use of the former continued to gain steam. There’s a slight drop-off beginning about 2004; the Google Books data only goes through 2008. ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Gothmog (Reply #11)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 09:46 PM
Autumn (36,610 posts)
15. I've seen you post that in several Ops today, I know the story behind his name for his tour.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Bernie Sanders |
Response to Autumn (Reply #3)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 10:23 PM
InAbLuEsTaTe (20,366 posts)
28. Talk about living in the past... and that's no malarkey!!
![]() Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!! Either way, they're stronger together!! Welcome to the revolution!!! ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Bernie Sanders |
Response to Autumn (Reply #3)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 10:58 PM
myohmy2 (1,100 posts)
38. I'm sort of curious...
...what trump's going to do with it in the next couple of days...
...I'm sure he'll have fun with it... ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Bernie Sanders |
Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 09:35 PM
Thekaspervote (6,773 posts)
5. How many Biden bashing posts does this make for you in the past 2 days?
Trying way too hard!!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #5)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 10:41 PM
ChubbyStar (1,971 posts)
31. Alert if you don't like it
Oh that's right you have. They have not gone your way. You have no problem with Bernie being shit on, but Biden is special. Give it a rest.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to ChubbyStar (Reply #31)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:12 PM
Thekaspervote (6,773 posts)
43. If you look at my posts I don't "shit" on ANY candidate. As far as things going my way, who's the
Front runner????
So if you don’t like it.... ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #43)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:15 PM
ChubbyStar (1,971 posts)
48. Really?
Keep going it is very telling and quite funny.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to ChubbyStar (Reply #48)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:21 PM
Thekaspervote (6,773 posts)
53. Really!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #5)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 10:42 PM
still_one (65,703 posts)
32. Padt two days? More like every chance he gets
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 09:38 PM
Docreed2003 (10,141 posts)
7. Seems like everyone has forgotten the 2012 VP debate
"Malarkey" was the best line of the night and iconic Biden. He's playing off of that and I think it's great, and I'm no boomer for whatever that's worth.
Not surprising some people have forgotten all about 2012 though, considering some folks at that time were pretty vocal about having Obama primaried ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Pete Buttigieg |
Response to Docreed2003 (Reply #7)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 09:44 PM
Autumn (36,610 posts)
12. That was a great line. Do you think 10 year old kids were impressed with it though? nt
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Bernie Sanders |
Response to Autumn (Reply #12)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 09:47 PM
Thekaspervote (6,773 posts)
16. Besides the fact that 10 yr olds don't vote.. what do 10 yr olds get outside of their world?
Seriously... it’s not meant to appeal to pre teens
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #16)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 09:51 PM
Autumn (36,610 posts)
20. Eighteen year olds certainly do vote. And they were bout 10 when that debate happened.
But our politicians should make an attempt to appeal to and draw them in.
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Bernie Sanders |
Response to Autumn (Reply #20)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 09:54 PM
TwilightZone (13,701 posts)
22. They vote at half the rate of the "old ladies" that you summarily dismiss.
And Biden wasn't targeting 10-year-olds in that debate. The assertion that he should have been speaking to them in preparation for an election eight years later is ridiculous. And hilarious.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to TwilightZone (Reply #22)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:13 PM
Thekaspervote (6,773 posts)
44. Thank you!!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to TwilightZone (Reply #22)
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 10:21 AM
Autumn (36,610 posts)
81. Who said he was targeting 10 year olds? No one ever. I pointed out that in the article, that
I actually read, it was said that young people didn't know what the word malarkey means. Why? Because they would have been about 10 when he used that word. And few 10 year old kids listen to debates. Now those kids are young 18 year old voters and listening to the candidates.. How you came up with anyone saying
that he should have been speaking to them in preparation for an election eight years later is ridiculous. And hilarious. is in fact actually sad.
TwilightZone
22. They vote at half the rate of the "old ladies" that you summarily dismiss. View profile And Biden wasn't targeting 10-year-olds in that debate. The assertion that he should have been speaking to them in preparation for an election eight years later is ridiculous. And hilarious. They will vote after we old ladies are gone. I don't know how old everyone here is but myself and some of the people here that I know IRL don't have that many elections left. No one lives forever. Dems should start including them, listening to and addressing their concerns and make an effort to get them in our party. ymmv. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Bernie Sanders |
Response to Autumn (Reply #20)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 10:17 PM
OilemFirchen (6,077 posts)
27. Should candidates start flinging boogers?
Pretty sure that 10-year-olds have always been impressed by that.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #27)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 10:44 PM
ChubbyStar (1,971 posts)
33. Maybe you were
I have 4 children and none of them were impressed by boogers at the age of 10.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to ChubbyStar (Reply #33)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 10:57 PM
OilemFirchen (6,077 posts)
37. Thanks for sharing. (n/t)
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #37)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:01 PM
ChubbyStar (1,971 posts)
39. Have fun with boogers
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to ChubbyStar (Reply #39)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:15 PM
OilemFirchen (6,077 posts)
47. I do rather enjoy using them to yank out hairs.
It may one day be my only true pleasure.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to ChubbyStar (Reply #33)
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 09:19 AM
Autumn (36,610 posts)
73. My 10 year old granddaughter paid more attention to Obama when he was first running than I did
The disdain for young voters by many is disgusting.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Bernie Sanders |
Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #27)
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 09:13 AM
Autumn (36,610 posts)
71. Right over your head. They aren't 10 years old anymore, they are old enough to vote.
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Bernie Sanders |
Response to Autumn (Reply #71)
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 11:00 AM
OilemFirchen (6,077 posts)
85. Yet you presume they vote based on what "impressed" them when they were?
How did we end up with Ronald Reagan instead of President Bobby Sherman?
n.b.: For you whippersnappers... ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Autumn (Reply #20)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 10:45 PM
PatSeg (27,959 posts)
34. I'm sure there is a plethora
of words that young people are unfamiliar with, but like all of us they will learn them over time. Meanwhile, they can very quickly pull out their phones and Google it! This is a non-issue.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to PatSeg (Reply #34)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:14 PM
Thekaspervote (6,773 posts)
46. +1000.... oh but there are those that want it to be an issue!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #46)
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:01 AM
PatSeg (27,959 posts)
62. Yeah
And next week it will be another silly issue. Primaries really do get goofy.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to PatSeg (Reply #34)
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 09:15 AM
Autumn (36,610 posts)
72. Who said it was an issue? I simply made a point that Dems should make the attempt to draw
in the young people.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Bernie Sanders |
Response to Autumn (Reply #72)
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 09:35 AM
PatSeg (27,959 posts)
74. Yes, they should
It was the original post that made it an issue.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to PatSeg (Reply #74)
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 09:54 AM
Autumn (36,610 posts)
76. I don't see how it's an issue. No surprise that young people wouldn't know that word
and old people do. An article pointing that out is posted and the outrage commences.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Bernie Sanders |
Response to Docreed2003 (Reply #7)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 09:45 PM
TwilightZone (13,701 posts)
13. It seems that a lot of people weren't politically active before 2015.
Particularly supporters of certain candidates. So, the context might be lost on them.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Docreed2003 (Reply #7)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 09:50 PM
Cha (239,547 posts)
19. Yeah "the mockers" have no clue.. Here's the Vid of the famous Malarkey
in the 2016 debate when Paul Ryan, the loser, spewed his bullshite.. Biden said "Malarkey!"
![]() Winning is Never out of date! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Thanks, Docreed! ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Reply #19)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:16 PM
Thekaspervote (6,773 posts)
49. Thx for posting Cha! Right winning is never out of date....that's Joe
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 09:40 PM
Gothmog (76,396 posts)
8. Washington Post-Analysis: The unexpected nostalgia of Biden's "malarkey"
This amuses me. The Washington Post has a great discussion on this history and use of the term marlarkey
Link to tweet Former vice president Joe Biden is aggressively and self-consciously the following things, in no particular order: Irish American, older, a regular guy. Were those traits structured into a Venn diagram, there would be few better words to sit at the center where all three meet than a single word: Malarkey.
Biden loves the word malarkey, so much so that it didn’t take much for me to dig into The Washington Post’s video archive to find this compilation of times that Biden has referred to things using the term. Asked what, exactly, the word meant during the 2012 vice presidential debate, he said that it meant “stuff,” which was his older, regular guy way of saying that it meant BS (which is itself a Post way of saying a particular expletive)..... Cultural phenomenons recur in a cyclical fashion, though the duration of those cycles isn’t constant. It seems feasible that the 1980s brought nostalgia for a term that had emerged 30-plus years earlier — and that Biden is single-handedly powering a renaissance another 30-plus years on. “Malarkey” may be doing for Biden what “Make America Great Again” did for Trump on a smaller scale in evoking the era of President Ronald Reagan. Most of his embrace of the term is about branding, reinforcing his political identity, and the traits we identified at the beginning of the article. He’s the guy who called Republican ideas “malarkey” and he’s the guy who uses terms like “malarkey” because he’s old and centered and willing to use normal-guy terms like “malarkey” even if that is abnormal. There’s a corniness to it that is on-brand for Biden. It’s the sort of thing that seems like it could appeal to older voters (and older white voters) more than anyone else. That’s a group that makes up a large chunk of the population, if only a smaller part of the Democratic primary electorate. (Biden’s distinctive strength in the primary is among black Democratic voters.) ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 09:40 PM
TwilightZone (13,701 posts)
10. The Washington Post disagrees with Politico
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287365167
Hmm, I wonder which media outlet we should take more seriously. Politico exists to rile people up and generate clicks. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to TwilightZone (Reply #10)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 09:48 PM
Thekaspervote (6,773 posts)
17. +1000
I used to read their site, support them... not anymore... not for some time
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to TwilightZone (Reply #10)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 09:52 PM
Cha (239,547 posts)
21. The "mockers" lose.. and so did Paul Ryan when VP Biden
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 09:46 PM
Deb (3,378 posts)
14. Yet "The corn is as high as an elephant's eye by the 4th of July" is common knowledge.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Deb (Reply #14)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 09:50 PM
Thekaspervote (6,773 posts)
18. Now now... some might think that isn't cool or politically correct...
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 09:55 PM
madaboutharry (31,801 posts)
23. He should have gone with "NO BULLSHIT!"
Seriously, who ever advised this should be fired. It makes Biden come off as a Twentieth Century man. Old and outdated. That is totally the wrong thing to be doing.
Biden is a good man and I think would make a good president. He needs better advisers. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Pete Buttigieg |
Response to madaboutharry (Reply #23)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:17 PM
Thekaspervote (6,773 posts)
50. Since he is the front runner why is it you are so sure he needs to "handle it" differently?
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 10:03 PM
oldsoftie (2,816 posts)
24. Whats the over/under for daily number of Biden bashes ?
I need to make some quick cash!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to oldsoftie (Reply #24)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:18 PM
Thekaspervote (6,773 posts)
51. Let me know... I could use some holiday cash myself!
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #51)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:35 PM
ChubbyStar (1,971 posts)
59. Play the #5 horse at Woodbine in the 7th race
Really. If you know how.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 10:11 PM
emmaverybo (5,292 posts)
25. You go, Joe. You have been pushing back against malarkey for decades:
Last edited Mon Dec 2, 2019, 10:53 PM - Edit history (1) Way before white candidates his age noticed black people. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 10:12 PM
msongs (51,845 posts)
26. Biden envy is going around lol nt
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to msongs (Reply #26)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 10:34 PM
emmaverybo (5,292 posts)
30. Lol. Some form of delusional. It can hit the best people the hardest. Poor guy just happens to be
the best qualified and likable and it sets off mass fear.
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 10:53 PM
myohmy2 (1,100 posts)
35. " "I'm afraid he's going to be disregarded as, 'Ok, boomer,'" says one Iowa voter. "
...it does sound a little old-school corny...
...considering it's meant to contrast Joe with the lying Great Satan, it does seem to lack the necessary aggressiveness and teeth... ...my granddaughter asked me what 'no malarkey' actually meant...I started to answer, thought about it and said I wasn't sure... ...I prefer 'no bullshit'... ...but then that's me... ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Bernie Sanders |
Response to myohmy2 (Reply #35)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:05 PM
emmaverybo (5,292 posts)
41. So far, not disregarded. And he's the candidate with the most recent experience in national
governance at the highest level. Tell your little one about malarkey and drek, another Americanism.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to emmaverybo (Reply #41)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:20 PM
Thekaspervote (6,773 posts)
52. +1000
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to myohmy2 (Reply #35)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:13 PM
Cha (239,547 posts)
45. " Malarkey!" is what Biden said to Paul Ryan when he beat him
at the debate in 2012.
Winning is Never out of date. ![]() ![]() ![]() The vid is posted here.. https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287363939#post9 ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Reply #45)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:57 PM
emmaverybo (5,292 posts)
61. "Winning is never out of date (Cha)." Never. Ever.
You go, Joe
America and the world need you. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to emmaverybo (Reply #61)
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:04 AM
Cha (239,547 posts)
63. Yes, I've been
going with that!
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to myohmy2 (Reply #35)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:23 PM
Thekaspervote (6,773 posts)
54. Who would write no bullshit on the side of a bus?
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #54)
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 08:07 AM
emmaverybo (5,292 posts)
69. Well, there is that. Who would? Amazing. Complaining that no one understands the word, then
that it’s a vintage word, now that Joe should have chosen the most vulgar translation of it.
MALARKEY! ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 10:56 PM
SCVDem (4,761 posts)
36. If you think OK Boomer is fun and acceptable,
Wait until you find the cranky Boomer who really takes offense and kicks your ass!
Let's lose that expression before someone gets hurt for real! It's insulting and at work may get you fired! ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to SCVDem (Reply #36)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:03 PM
Hassin Bin Sober (21,990 posts)
40. Lol Ok
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to SCVDem (Reply #36)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:24 PM
Thekaspervote (6,773 posts)
55. Just an FYI Joe is not a boomer
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #55)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:44 PM
SCVDem (4,761 posts)
60. In general.
Nip it in the bud!
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to SCVDem (Reply #36)
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 09:56 AM
tonedevil (2,071 posts)
78. OK Boomer. /nt
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:07 PM
lambchopp59 (1,014 posts)
42. Again, I'll post my warning!
I'm in the camp, if not the age group that fears alienation of the youth vote we so desperately need.
It takes only one blundered response to a debate question to sink a candidate. I've been bashed by the "Biden is the only choice" cabal here on DU so often I've lost count, and I'll likely elicit another such response by stating this: Which of our candidates can maintain complete equanimity yet sharply retort every attack without a single hiccup stating only the facts and present realistic yet highly progressive plans will motivate a massive youth vote. Time and debates will tell, and adherence to sticking with the middle road, reach-across-the-isle, lukewarm politics during an era when our youth are at great economic uncertainty is a losing proposition. Without that exact candidate, we're heading for a repeat episode of the 2016 false confidence debacle. We're up against far worse election rigging than ever before, and we need a candidate that excites the youth vote more than ever before. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to lambchopp59 (Reply #42)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:29 PM
Thekaspervote (6,773 posts)
57. If the youth voted I'd think differently. It's a different excuse every election cycle as to why
We could own this country and the government if they did...sadly they don’t.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to lambchopp59 (Reply #42)
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 10:42 AM
Autumn (36,610 posts)
82. From what I see. It seems many Dems think that the young people are not needed, nor wanted
in their party.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Bernie Sanders |
Response to Autumn (Reply #82)
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 10:55 AM
lambchopp59 (1,014 posts)
83. Exactly my fear, a repeat of the false confidence
And the number of write-in votes Bernie earned proves that "they don't vote" complacency wrong, very wrong. Many of those were co-workers of mine, frustrated with lukewarm candidates, fearful of environmental and economic uncertainty, and a few who albeit pleasant young folks to work with, are sadly lacking in intellect, and voted for the Orange menace we get sickened by daily.
This Gen-X'er "settled" for Hillary. I'll vote for whoever the Dem nominee turns out to be, but I'm hearing the same thing: they want change. They aren't (exception of one low intellect young voter I know) afraid of "socialism". ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to lambchopp59 (Reply #83)
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 10:58 AM
Autumn (36,610 posts)
84. The Democratic party should be the party that does things for the people. The party that
address their concerns and their needs. That's how we win, that's how Obama won. We won't win by saying that's not going to happen.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Bernie Sanders |
Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:25 PM
applegrove (90,724 posts)
56. It is perfect. Absolutely perfect. It is a word Biden has used often over
the years. Malarkey: it is a perfect description of the Trump WH and all Republicans. It speaks to an older, white generation of Obama voters who voted for Trump. If the rest of us will let it be it could garner Biden a landslide in the General Election. It needs to be repeated and repeated as MAGA was. Only No Malarkey is not only simple, it is also authentic to how Biden will run against Trump if Biden wins the nomination.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to applegrove (Reply #56)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:31 PM
Thekaspervote (6,773 posts)
58. Perfect!! Thank you
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:33 AM
treestar (75,079 posts)
65. Alienated by a word they never heard before?
Geez. Increase your vocabulary.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:38 AM
betsuni (11,595 posts)
66. Wait, why do "FDR Democrats" suddenly have a problem with old-school slogans?
And slogans from the '60s?
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 06:20 AM
voteearlyvoteoften (1,448 posts)
67. Love No Malarkey
Now if we could just bring back Golly...
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 06:50 AM
Turin_C3PO (2,400 posts)
68. I like the slogan.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 08:30 AM
LanternWaste (34,373 posts)
70. I suppose a benign word is as good a thing as any to throw at the wall.
Malarkey, indeed.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 09:49 AM
LongtimeAZDem (3,245 posts)
75. OMG; if high school girls don't get it, Biden is doomed! Doomed!
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 09:55 AM
C_U_L8R (32,514 posts)
77. It was better before it became a tagline
It now feels like hamfisted marketing versus its off-the-cuff endearing origin.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #77)
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 09:59 AM
tonedevil (2,071 posts)
79. I think you are correct /nt
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Response to JoeOtterbein (Original post)
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 10:21 AM
emulatorloo (37,904 posts)
80. "He's saying 'no bullsh--,'" says 34-year-old Bear Unruh of Carroll, Iowa."
EOM
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
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