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BREAKING: Buttigieg takes lead in NH Primary poll... (Original Post) brooklynite Nov 2019 OP
WOW. dewsgirl Nov 2019 #1
Fascinating. Nt BootinUp Nov 2019 #2
If he can crack his African American problem, he will be a contender. LaurenOlimina Nov 2019 #3
That's a big "If" disndat Nov 2019 #14
So did Hillary '08 Renew Deal Nov 2019 #19
Barack Obama wasn't polling at 5-0% with AA voters. He was around 40%. SaschaHM Nov 2019 #27
WOW, not normally speechless, but this does it Celerity Nov 2019 #4
LOL Lefta Dissenter Nov 2019 #23
The only yard sign I've seen so far in NH is for Mayor Pete. Vinca Nov 2019 #5
Recently traveled through New Hampshire's Coos County democrank Nov 2019 #32
Bravo! nt babylonsister Nov 2019 #6
Caution... pfeiffer Nov 2019 #7
Ughhh....there you have it Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #16
The previous St. Anselm's College NH Poll was a joke ritapria Nov 2019 #8
here are their previous polls, I can undertand why you doth protest (as you are a Bernie supporter) Celerity Nov 2019 #11
Caution... pfeiffer Nov 2019 #12
caution noted before your reply Celerity Nov 2019 #15
Wow. Those TV ads must be striking a cord. crazytown Nov 2019 #9
Moderates rule - yay!!! Pete takes Iowa and NH, then Biden takes Nevada, SC and Super Tuesday states Skya Rhen Nov 2019 #10
NV (IF, a big IF) is so not in the bag for Biden if he does poorly in both IA and NH Celerity Nov 2019 #13
I believe that moderates are running the road, but what comes next is unclear. CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2019 #20
huggiezz my dear Peggy Celerity Nov 2019 #21
If Pete wins IA and NH then I think he will kept a huge surge of momentum heading into Nevada. StevieM Nov 2019 #24
I think he needs to think outside the box and come up with some way to reach out Celerity Nov 2019 #25
I think they just want to pick a winner BootinUp Nov 2019 #36
Can that be real? Renew Deal Nov 2019 #17
The last 3 recent polls 538 has listed for Nevada Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #18
Crazy! Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #22
Given Mayor Pete's lack of support among African American voters this could be good news for Biden Gothmog Nov 2019 #26
It definitely is. SaschaHM Nov 2019 #28
Is Joe Biden actually underrated now? Gothmog Nov 2019 #30
It's the media hype behind IA/NH SaschaHM Nov 2019 #31
Perhaps... brooklynite Nov 2019 #37
That's quite possible, but we're in a much different time and the primaries are closer. SaschaHM Nov 2019 #38
"margin of error of 6.1 percentage points" Chambi Nov 2019 #29
Pete Buttigieg is a real gem. democrank Nov 2019 #33
Summary of poll results from pdf UncleNoel Nov 2019 #34
I didnt see that coming. Joe941 Nov 2019 #35
 

LaurenOlimina

(1,165 posts)
3. If he can crack his African American problem, he will be a contender.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 06:25 PM
Nov 2019

I really glad to see him do well.

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disndat

(1,887 posts)
14. That's a big "If"
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 07:06 PM
Nov 2019

Biden has that vote sewed up.

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Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
19. So did Hillary '08
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 07:16 PM
Nov 2019
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SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
27. Barack Obama wasn't polling at 5-0% with AA voters. He was around 40%.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 08:18 PM
Nov 2019

He was also a black man making history for them and while Buttigieg is making history, it doesn't mean as much to the African American community as electing the first black president did.

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Celerity

(43,333 posts)
4. WOW, not normally speechless, but this does it
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 06:29 PM
Nov 2019


this

NH voter sums me up atm







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Lefta Dissenter

(6,622 posts)
23. LOL
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 07:38 PM
Nov 2019

That photo is adorable! 🥰

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Vinca

(50,269 posts)
5. The only yard sign I've seen so far in NH is for Mayor Pete.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 06:31 PM
Nov 2019
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democrank

(11,093 posts)
32. Recently traveled through New Hampshire's Coos County
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 09:12 PM
Nov 2019

The only lawn signs I saw were for Tulsi or Pete Buttigieg.

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pfeiffer

(280 posts)
7. Caution...
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 06:39 PM
Nov 2019

538 does not rate this poll.

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Thekaspervote

(32,757 posts)
16. Ughhh....there you have it
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 07:09 PM
Nov 2019
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ritapria

(1,812 posts)
8. The previous St. Anselm's College NH Poll was a joke
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 06:41 PM
Nov 2019

Last edited Tue Nov 19, 2019, 07:18 PM - Edit history (2)

I am sure Mayor Pete is doing well in NH …..I would not put too much faith in their work product ……….. I have just checked the age breakdown of their sample : 18- 34 ( 13% ) 35 - 54 ( 29 %) 55- 64 ( 25%) 65 + ( 32%) What was the age breakdown in the NH 2016 NH Primary ? : 18- 34 ( 25%) 35 - 54 ( 38 %) 55-64 ( 19 %) 65+ ( 18 %)….. This poll grossly underestimates the support Bernie has in the state of NH ……….Bernie is very strong with the age group 18- 34 and very weak with voters 65+ …….. I doth not protest too much without for reason ... They grossly oversampleth too many seniors

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Celerity

(43,333 posts)
11. here are their previous polls, I can undertand why you doth protest (as you are a Bernie supporter)
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 06:53 PM
Nov 2019


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pfeiffer

(280 posts)
12. Caution...
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 07:00 PM
Nov 2019

538 has never rated this poll.

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Celerity

(43,333 posts)
15. caution noted before your reply
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 07:06 PM
Nov 2019


I am a quite fair-minded poll commentator on here, as evidenced by hundreds of previous posts regardless of who is up and who is down.
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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
9. Wow. Those TV ads must be striking a cord.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 06:43 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
10. Moderates rule - yay!!! Pete takes Iowa and NH, then Biden takes Nevada, SC and Super Tuesday states
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 06:49 PM
Nov 2019
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Celerity

(43,333 posts)
13. NV (IF, a big IF) is so not in the bag for Biden if he does poorly in both IA and NH
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 07:03 PM
Nov 2019

As for SC, I have very little doubt Joe takes that, BUT we truly need to see how the dynamics play (Super Tuesday-wise) out IF Buttigieg sweeps all 3 (or finishes a strong 2nd in NV and wins IA and NH) and then finishes 2nd or 3rd in SC. That will be one major route that tosses Super Tuesday up into an unknowable category, especially if Joe does poorly in 3 of the 4, or even 2 of the 4.

Just my thoughts.......

I do concur that the moderates are running the road atm.

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CaliforniaPeggy

(149,593 posts)
20. I believe that moderates are running the road, but what comes next is unclear.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 07:17 PM
Nov 2019

However, I am thrilled to see this newest poll and curious as to what comes next.

Celerity!

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Celerity

(43,333 posts)
21. huggiezz my dear Peggy
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 07:31 PM
Nov 2019


Pete in NH







and Chicago



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StevieM

(10,500 posts)
24. If Pete wins IA and NH then I think he will kept a huge surge of momentum heading into Nevada.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 07:42 PM
Nov 2019

I think he would likely win there too. Biden doesn't have the same level of support there that he does in SC.

Ultimately, Mayor Pete will have to find a way to connect more with black voters if he wants to do well in South Carolina and the Super Tuesday states.

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Celerity

(43,333 posts)
25. I think he needs to think outside the box and come up with some way to reach out
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 07:48 PM
Nov 2019

to my fellow PoC.

Time will tell.

Either way I am proud as hell to support a brilliant young fellow LGBTQ candidate. He inspired me as soon as I saw his March SXSW townhall on CNN, and I am one jaded tans-continental (Los Angeles born, London-raised) 23 year old Zennial.

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BootinUp

(47,141 posts)
36. I think they just want to pick a winner
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:35 PM
Nov 2019

They are standing back and watching, this ain’t over yet. I actually am thinking that way too.

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Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
17. Can that be real?
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 07:15 PM
Nov 2019

If it is, it means his message is working.

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Thekaspervote

(32,757 posts)
18. The last 3 recent polls 538 has listed for Nevada
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 07:15 PM
Nov 2019

You/guv Biden +10
Fox Biden +6
Mellman group Biden +10

The you/gov poll is most favorable to EW and sanders. Just sayin

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Gothmog

(145,131 posts)
26. Given Mayor Pete's lack of support among African American voters this could be good news for Biden
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 07:52 PM
Nov 2019
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SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
28. It definitely is.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 08:26 PM
Nov 2019

I'm not sure why people thinking winning with around 25% of the vote is going to cause any large vote shifting momentum when white voters don't suddenly coalesce around candidates like people assume they will. They didn't in 2008 or 2016. They won't in 2020. Hell, Bernie beat Hillary by an even larger margin in NH that any candidate could hope for and white voters didn't suddenly rally around him. If they're split, Biden benefits. Nothing about Buttigieg winning is going to make Warren or Sanders drop out being before their names get put on the Super Tuesday ballots.

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Gothmog

(145,131 posts)
30. Is Joe Biden actually underrated now?
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 08:58 PM
Nov 2019



Among black voters in the Quinnipiac poll, Biden took 44% to 10% for Sanders and just 8% for Warren. (South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg received less than 1% of the black vote in South Carolina in the new Q poll. Ouch.)

Of the UNF poll, Dr. Michael Binder, faculty director of the Public Opinion Research Lab, said: "Buoyed by his support among African American voters, Biden has an established lead far above the other contenders in South Carolina."

Biden's lasting strength in South Carolina and with black voters is mirrored in his improving performance in national 2020 polling as well. Biden was in danger of losing his edge over Warren in national 2020 surveys as recently as a few weeks ago. Now? He averages more than 7 points over Warren, according to the polling database maintained by Real Clear Politics.

To be clear: Biden is still not where he wants to be in Iowa or New Hampshire. And his fundraising needs to get drastically better. But his continued strength in South Carolina -- and the persistence of support from black voters even amid online predictions of his imminent demise -- suggest that Biden may have more strengths than he is getting credit for at the moment.
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SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
31. It's the media hype behind IA/NH
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 09:07 PM
Nov 2019

Despite having just had a primary in 2016, too many Democrats on this board and twitter have gotten it in their head that IA/NH are going to change the fundamentals of the race in their preferred candidates favor. Voters aren't going to give up their chance to make an impact by defaulting to the IA/NH choice.

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brooklynite

(94,507 posts)
37. Perhaps...
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:45 PM
Nov 2019

Conversely, a candidate that does poorly in IA and NH (see Howard Dean) finds that their fundraising dries up.

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SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
38. That's quite possible, but we're in a much different time and the primaries are closer.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 11:06 PM
Nov 2019

A candidate on the ballot in IA/NH only has to go 3 weeks for results from NV/SC/all the Super Tuesday States. They're going to be on the ballots (as it will be pass the deadline to be removed) and most campaigns will have planned ahead for that 3 week stretch.

Do or Die campaigns like Harris's may be dumping all their money into IA and hoping that they strike oil, but Sanders, Warren, and Biden (his campaign and PAC) will have already made investments and ad buys in those states before we even get results from New Hampshire. They'll be on the ballot with events planned and ready to go. Then there's the case of candidates that don't need a heavy investment in certain states to get the return. Buttigieg, Warren, and Sanders are going to have to spend way more money than Biden will in South Carolina and in other certain starts where he is leading with black voters.

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Chambi

(37 posts)
29. "margin of error of 6.1 percentage points"
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 08:34 PM
Nov 2019

That's very high compared to other primary polls.

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democrank

(11,093 posts)
33. Pete Buttigieg is a real gem.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 09:14 PM
Nov 2019

You don’t hear the standard Washington talk from him.

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UncleNoel

(864 posts)
34. Summary of poll results from pdf
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 09:30 PM
Nov 2019

These results are from the Saint Anselm College Survey Center poll based on interviews with 512 New Hampshire
registered voters, including 255 that indicated an intention to vote in next February’s New Hampshire Democratic
Presidential Primary. Interviews were conducted by landline and cellular phone between November 13th and 18th,
2019. The survey has a margin of sampling error of +/- 4.3% with a confidence interval of 95%; questions limited to
Democratic primary voters have a margin of sampling error of 6.1%. Data are weighted for age and gender based on a
voter demographic model derived from historical voting patterns, but are not weighted by party registration or party
identification.
New Hampshire Institute of Politics Executive Director Neil Levesque summarized the results, saying, “With less than
three months before the primary, the race for New Hampshire’s Democratic delegates is still in a great deal of flux. Pete
Buttigieg has surged to the top of the ballot test with 25%, followed by Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren, both with 15%.
Buttigieg’s bump is driven by the favorable impression he’s made on voters, with 76% having a favorable impression of
him versus only 11% unfavorable. His net favorable of 65% easily bests the field, including Biden (+31%) and Warren
(+39%). Primary voters also believe that he would make the best president (23%) over Warren (17%) and Biden (14%).
“However, only 36% of Democratic voters are firm in their choice for President, down from 43% in September. 57% of
current Buttigieg supporters indicate that they could change their mind between now and the primary, as do 60% of
Biden supporters and 72% of Warren supporters. If voters do change their mind, Warren stands to gain the most
support as the second choice of 23% of voters, followed by Buttigieg with 13% and Biden with 10%.
“Buttigieg’s new lead may be vulnerable to an emerging dynamic in the Democratic race: whereas a slight majority
(52%-48%) of primary voters indicated in September that they were looking for a candidate that best reflected their
policy priorities, now a slight majority (50%-48) are looking for a candidate that they believe has the best chance of
beating President Trump. If this trend continues, it may benefit Biden, who is viewed as the strongest nominee to face
Trump by 31% of voters, a significant gap over Buttigieg (11%), Warren (11%) and Sanders (10%).
“The question of electability could well become a dominant theme in the coming months. Among all voters, Biden does
best in general election matchup, with voters indicating 51%-43% that they would vote for him over Trump. The margin
narrows for Buttigieg (49%-42%), Sanders (49%-46%) and Warren (47%-46%). However, when asked who they think
would win a general election, voters believe by a 52%-40% margin that Trump would best Biden; they also believe he
would prevail over Buttigieg (63%-26%), Sanders (65%-27%), and Warren (66%-26%). Buttigieg is benefiting today from
his strong positive image, but he will likely have to convince voters that he has a good chance of beating Trump in order
to consolidate his new support.
“Primary voters seem largely satisfied with the current slate of candidates,” Levesque concluded. “Of four recent or
possible entrants into the race, only Deval Patrick (23%) and Michelle Obama (41%) would get significant
encouragement from voters. 77% of primary voters would discourage Michael Bloomberg from entering the race, while
91% would discourage Hillary Clinton.”

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Joe941

(2,848 posts)
35. I didnt see that coming.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:23 PM
Nov 2019
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