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Biden-There is a lot of talk out there on where I stand when it comes to our marijuana laws. (Original Post) Gothmog Nov 2019 OP
That should shut down the critics. George II Nov 2019 #1
It should, but a lot of them don't want to be bothered with facts. highplainsdem Nov 2019 #5
The facts are that Biden was slower than other candidates and most PufPuf23 Nov 2019 #13
No doubt Joe would like voters to ignore the facts...but give Joe some credit for shifting positions InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #16
I do credit Biden for the ability to adjust his positions over time. PufPuf23 Nov 2019 #18
Tru dat!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #30
And, I bet, catching some flack The Mouth Nov 2019 #80
So what? I don't care.. Biden is the one to beat trump Cha Nov 2019 #20
I think that Biden can beat Trump and we are in big trouble PufPuf23 Nov 2019 #23
State elections are far more important SterlingPound Nov 2019 #26
Getting Trump out of office either PufPuf23 Nov 2019 #28
the next elections at the state level will be drawing the lines for the next decade SterlingPound Nov 2019 #29
Michigan voted DownriverDem Nov 2019 #31
Nice SterlingPound Nov 2019 #32
Arizona has done well since the nonpartisan redistricting. sweetloukillbot Nov 2019 #56
"all politics is local" The Mouth Nov 2019 #68
I agree that state elections are important Gothmog Nov 2019 #97
I think your message must be getting lost or is pretty much just not that good SterlingPound Nov 2019 #100
Now it is a contest about who gets there first? treestar Nov 2019 #73
And some just want to bash Biden...which is already developing in this thread as well Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #15
Calling a bullshit position bullshit is not bashing The Mouth Nov 2019 #89
Recommended. guillaumeb Nov 2019 #2
Yay.. I just saw this in GD and asked them to Cha Nov 2019 #3
Hey Cha Gothmog Nov 2019 #11
I don't know what all the fuss was about. betsuni Nov 2019 #4
K&R! Thanks, Gothmog! highplainsdem Nov 2019 #6
Yes... thank you Goth..a long redundant totally rambling ridiculous thread yesterday evening Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #7
That's a reasonable position DrToast Nov 2019 #8
And, I bet there would be plenty Cha Nov 2019 #12
I've been researching 50 years... LakeArenal Nov 2019 #38
As one of his critics, this revised statement is most welcome. Thank you. LonePirate Nov 2019 #9
This isn't new or revised. It was all in the plan to strengthen our justice system that was highplainsdem Nov 2019 #19
This has always been his position since the beginning of his run...he thinks it needs more study and Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #49
Hey Goth.. Cha Nov 2019 #10
Hey Cha Gothmog Nov 2019 #52
Thank you, Goth! Smart and sensible stance, hardly draconian, reactionary, or punitive. Would emmaverybo Nov 2019 #14
Yes!! We don't want to go from one policy to another and inadvertently make things worse Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #17
Good clarification mcar Nov 2019 #21
Glad he tweeted this. redqueen Nov 2019 #22
Makes me wonder why he can't say legalize cannabis...period. aikoaiko Nov 2019 #24
Why should he say legalize pot when he means decriminalize pot? beastie boy Nov 2019 #27
Decriminalize can mean only lessening the criminality aikoaiko Nov 2019 #33
Isn't that you parsing? LakeArenal Nov 2019 #39
States under a Biden administration are free to legalize it...I would remind you that not all states Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #46
Actually, it means eliminating criminality. beastie boy Nov 2019 #69
"A misdemeanor is not a crime." Uhhh. Yes it is. aikoaiko Nov 2019 #70
My bad. It is a crime. It is not a felony. Like jaywalking is a crime but not a felony. beastie boy Nov 2019 #71
True, the penalties are not as severe for misdemeanors, but... aikoaiko Nov 2019 #92
I thought Biden was clear on this: EXPUNGE THEIR CRIMINAL RECORDS! beastie boy Nov 2019 #94
It doesn't necessarily apply to "the box". aikoaiko Nov 2019 #95
Penalties for possession of Schedule 3 drugs are about the same as for drunk driving. beastie boy Nov 2019 #99
And *HAS* to be mentioned and explained The Mouth Nov 2019 #81
I pity you. beastie boy Nov 2019 #112
It is a crime that draws a fine, not prison if convicted. Blue_true Nov 2019 #106
Misdemeanors often allow the convicted to be jailed for up to 1 year aikoaiko Nov 2019 #108
Decriminalization reduces the penalty to a Fine. Blue_true Nov 2019 #105
I for one want to support a candidate who unambiguously supports legalizing totodeinhere Nov 2019 #109
The black market is booming since legalization here in California. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #43
Because it's taxed very heavily The Mouth Nov 2019 #82
The promise that marijuana sales would generate significant tax revenue... The Valley Below Nov 2019 #84
Legalize it and keep the taxes reasonable The Mouth Nov 2019 #85
Sorry, I won't "spare you" from the truth. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #87
Aren't you on the wrong forum? The Mouth Nov 2019 #88
Definitely NOT! The Valley Below Nov 2019 #90
I was going to ask you the same question LongtimeAZDem Nov 2019 #91
No, The Mouth Nov 2019 #93
Several medical studies have shown that Pot use below a specific age is detrimental. Blue_true Nov 2019 #107
because if it was legal peops in subsidized housing could use it questionseverything Nov 2019 #64
Legalization should be decided by states. Decriminalization, Rescheduling Classification, Blue_true Nov 2019 #104
Fuzzy on the issue bluedovepdx Nov 2019 #25
you do that.. I'll stay with Biden who is Cha Nov 2019 #34
beating trump bluedovepdx Nov 2019 #44
Biden is stronger.. and I like him for the job.. he Cha Nov 2019 #48
All bluedovepdx Nov 2019 #53
I'd say being a valued VP under Pres Obama for 8 years.. Cha Nov 2019 #57
It is not a voting issue for me but Biden's position is fine with me. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #42
So, still against legalization then melman Nov 2019 #35
Legalization will happen at the state level...and Biden won't interfere with that...so sour grapes- Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #41
It's not sour grapes melman Nov 2019 #45
Moving the goalposts again, eh? LanternWaste Nov 2019 #72
You should keep your hat on melman Nov 2019 #78
employment bluedovepdx Nov 2019 #47
So some people will still be locked up for doing the same thing big business are allowed to make... JoeOtterbein Nov 2019 #36
people in public housing cant use it questionseverything Nov 2019 #65
Same for seniors in facilities that receive government funding. JudyM Nov 2019 #66
exactly, he is so out of touch with regular peoples lives questionseverything Nov 2019 #98
Please don't make too much sense here Ferrets are Cool Nov 2019 #101
Wise advice. JudyM Nov 2019 #102
works for me. nt BootinUp Nov 2019 #37
That is perfect. That takes the wind out of their sails. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #40
Kicking for Joe Biden! Cha Nov 2019 #50
Thanks for making that one clear, Joe. Jewls2 Nov 2019 #51
What percentage of those wanting to keep cannabis possession The Wizard Nov 2019 #54
When he legalizes medical marijuana flotsam Nov 2019 #55
this critic appreciates proud patriot Nov 2019 #58
Parse each word. We need federal law OhNo-Really Nov 2019 #59
Based on Joe Biden's history of being a huge Drug War supporter Eric J in MN Nov 2019 #60
I don't care if you "trust" him or not.. Many more Cha Nov 2019 #61
Actions speak louder than words The Mouth Nov 2019 #96
I'm Glad Biden Clarified His Position Indykatie Nov 2019 #62
K&R Tarheel_Dem Nov 2019 #63
I'm sleep deprived this morning, but didn't he just say he viewed it as a gateway drug? JudyM Nov 2019 #67
That was then, this is now The Mouth Nov 2019 #86
Sounds perfectly reasonable treestar Nov 2019 #74
Biden is out of touch LeftTurn3623 Nov 2019 #75
Sounds reasonable and progressive Baked Potato Nov 2019 #76
THis is pretty much what it said in the article that started all this hubbub OKNancy Nov 2019 #77
The "hubbub" was that he thinks weed might be a gateway drug. progressoid Nov 2019 #83
Good. Not great, but good enough The Mouth Nov 2019 #79
I am exactly where he is on every point. Blue_true Nov 2019 #103
Joe is totally right on every point. Not to mention that R B Garr Nov 2019 #110
Nate Silver has some great observations Gothmog Nov 2019 #111
Biden did not say that Marijuana is a gateway drug Gothmog Nov 2019 #113
FDA warns 15 companies for illegally selling....cannabidiol as agency details safety concerns Gothmog Nov 2019 #114
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
1. That should shut down the critics.
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 09:08 PM
Nov 2019
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highplainsdem

(48,968 posts)
5. It should, but a lot of them don't want to be bothered with facts.
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 09:13 PM
Nov 2019
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PufPuf23

(8,767 posts)
13. The facts are that Biden was slower than other candidates and most
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 09:19 PM
Nov 2019

members of the Democratic party on the 5 points; Biden is a follower of the obvious when in comes to marijuana in the USA.

Biden has spent most of his career as an impediment to progress regards marijuana.

If one does not agree with the 5 points, their stance is not progressive.

That is not to say that marijuana is a panacea but that pot can be a valid medical or lifestyle choice.

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
16. No doubt Joe would like voters to ignore the facts...but give Joe some credit for shifting positions
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 09:32 PM
Nov 2019

on marijuana. Better late than never!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

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PufPuf23

(8,767 posts)
18. I do credit Biden for the ability to adjust his positions over time.
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 09:39 PM
Nov 2019

But Biden is the most status quo candidate we have of our array of candidates.

Better late then never but Biden would never have made the adjustment except in following others in what has become a safe position in 2019 Democratic circles.

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
30. Tru dat!!
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 10:31 PM
Nov 2019

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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The Mouth

(3,148 posts)
80. And, I bet, catching some flack
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:51 PM
Nov 2019

Criminalization is so 1980's; Reagan's dead, 'Just say No' didn't work, weed is no business of the federal government's, anyone who thinks it is sucks.

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Cha

(297,149 posts)
20. So what? I don't care.. Biden is the one to beat trump
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 09:49 PM
Nov 2019

that's what I care about.

He's supporting this now.. if he is POTUS then we can work on getting legalized federally.

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PufPuf23

(8,767 posts)
23. I think that Biden can beat Trump and we are in big trouble
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 10:01 PM
Nov 2019

if we do not beat Trump in the election should Trump not be impeached and convicted and removed from office.

Biden is in the awkward position of supporting marijuana where he has been a strong anti-marijuana proponent for the majority of his political career.

We have far more important issues to address than marijuana in 2020.

I am comfortable as a member of the Democratic party as first identified as a Democrat in 1968 and have been registered and voted Democratic exclusively (one exception John Anderson in 1980 GOP CA POTUS primary to slow Reagan) ever since. I am used to not getting who I want elected nor my take many issues satisfied but persevere.

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SterlingPound

(428 posts)
26. State elections are far more important
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 10:10 PM
Nov 2019

than impeaching trump

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PufPuf23

(8,767 posts)
28. Getting Trump out of office either
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 10:19 PM
Nov 2019

by impeachment and conviction or election should that fail is important.

State elections for Federal positions are important in maintaining and expanding majority in House and recovering a majority in the Senate.

Other State (and county) elections are important too. Democratic party needs to improve performance in rural and red areas.

Need more Democratic Governors and assembly majorities at state-level.

Trump is a threat to the Republic. If re-elected, Trump is a danger and obstacle even if win both sides of Congress.

Can't say I agree with you that state elections are more important than getting rid of Trump.

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SterlingPound

(428 posts)
29. the next elections at the state level will be drawing the lines for the next decade
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 10:21 PM
Nov 2019

they are far more important overall than trump at this point

IMO

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DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
31. Michigan voted
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 10:32 PM
Nov 2019

to have a committee draw up the lines. Folks are now applying.

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SterlingPound

(428 posts)
32. Nice
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 10:34 PM
Nov 2019

Arizona has a supposedly non partisan commitee used to draw our lines as well.

and it seems to have paid off on our last election.


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sweetloukillbot

(11,008 posts)
56. Arizona has done well since the nonpartisan redistricting.
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:53 PM
Nov 2019

Or at least balanced redistricting. I believe it is supposed to be 3 safe R and 3 safe D, with 3 toss-ups.

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The Mouth

(3,148 posts)
68. "all politics is local"
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 09:51 AM
Nov 2019

Thomas P. "Tip" O'Neil

For most people, their city council, the county board of supervisors, and school boards make a much bigger impact in their life, followed by the State government.

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Gothmog

(145,129 posts)
97. I agree that state elections are important
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 06:45 PM
Nov 2019

I and a good number of real democrats are working hard to turn Texas blue. In 2018, we flipped 12 seats in the Texas House and 2 congressional seats. We need to pick up 9 seats in the Texas House of Representatives to flip this body and control redistricting. I am working on 2 campaigns for state house seats. The DCCC has targeted 6 congressional seats and I am working on one of these campaigns. I am hopeful that we can flip the Texas senate seat in a good wave year.

If Texas down ballot candidates are forced to run with a too far left candidate, we can kiss these races goodbye. Warren or sanders wold kill down ballot races in Texas

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SterlingPound

(428 posts)
100. I think your message must be getting lost or is pretty much just not that good
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 09:23 PM
Nov 2019

if a national candidate can dilute your message so easily on the state level.

or maybe they sounds too much like the republicans to begin with and are therefore confusing the voters..

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treestar

(82,383 posts)
73. Now it is a contest about who gets there first?
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:53 AM
Nov 2019
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Thekaspervote

(32,755 posts)
15. And some just want to bash Biden...which is already developing in this thread as well
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 09:30 PM
Nov 2019

The attitudes of some!!

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The Mouth

(3,148 posts)
89. Calling a bullshit position bullshit is not bashing
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 01:48 PM
Nov 2019

Weed should not be illegal for adult use, period. Anyone saying otherwise deserves ridicule.

That Biden is smart enough to adjust his position says something good for him in my book.

IF don't like abortions, don't have one, if you don't like same sex marriage, don't get one, if you don't like weed, don't smoke it; tell me that any governmental entity, in any way, has any justification in interfering in any of these, then stop pretending to be a Democrat (not you, personally Thekaspervote, I mean anyone who thinks it should be anything other than readily available to any adult).

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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
2. Recommended.
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 09:08 PM
Nov 2019

Excellent points.

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Cha

(297,149 posts)
3. Yay.. I just saw this in GD and asked them to
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 09:11 PM
Nov 2019

post it here.. but you already did!

Thank You, Goth!

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betsuni

(25,464 posts)
4. I don't know what all the fuss was about.
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 09:12 PM
Nov 2019

Politicians have personal views that have nothing to do with them doing their jobs.

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Thekaspervote

(32,755 posts)
7. Yes... thank you Goth..a long redundant totally rambling ridiculous thread yesterday evening
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 09:14 PM
Nov 2019

It went from the subject at hand to trashing FDR, the clintons, JFK and the crap said about Biden...omg

Bookmarking for the next time!!

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DrToast

(6,414 posts)
8. That's a reasonable position
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 09:15 PM
Nov 2019

The truth is that there does need to be more research on marijuana.

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Cha

(297,149 posts)
12. And, I bet there would be plenty
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 09:19 PM
Nov 2019

of volunteers!

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LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
38. I've been researching 50 years...
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:03 PM
Nov 2019

Lots of living healthy enough people have done the same.

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LonePirate

(13,417 posts)
9. As one of his critics, this revised statement is most welcome. Thank you.
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 09:16 PM
Nov 2019
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highplainsdem

(48,968 posts)
19. This isn't new or revised. It was all in the plan to strengthen our justice system that was
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 09:47 PM
Nov 2019
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Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
49. This has always been his position since the beginning of his run...he thinks it needs more study and
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:18 PM
Nov 2019

will leave it up to the states...alcohol was done the same way...we still have dry communities.

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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
14. Thank you, Goth! Smart and sensible stance, hardly draconian, reactionary, or punitive. Would
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 09:29 PM
Nov 2019

be a vast improvement and research is needed, has been lacking.

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Thekaspervote

(32,755 posts)
17. Yes!! We don't want to go from one policy to another and inadvertently make things worse
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 09:35 PM
Nov 2019
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mcar

(42,302 posts)
21. Good clarification
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 09:51 PM
Nov 2019

Thanks.

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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
22. Glad he tweeted this.
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 09:52 PM
Nov 2019

His talk about gateway drugs and being unsure about cannabis was not the best message to put out there.

Good move, wish he'd done this sooner.

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aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
24. Makes me wonder why he can't say legalize cannabis...period.
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 10:02 PM
Nov 2019

Ok, Joe, why the parsing of words?

So no one should go to jail for using cannabis -- what about the people who grow it, transport it, and finance it? Perhaps he sees some benefit in keeping the black market going and putting people in jail.

Moving it from Schedule 1 to Schedule 2 is technically decriminalizing cannabis -- but hardly enough.

If States can legalize it, why not legalize it on the Federal level?







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beastie boy

(9,310 posts)
27. Why should he say legalize pot when he means decriminalize pot?
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 10:13 PM
Nov 2019

He draws a clear and unambiguous line between the two. No words parsed.

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aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
33. Decriminalize can mean only lessening the criminality
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 10:36 PM
Nov 2019

There is a difference and that’s why Joe is parsing
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LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
39. Isn't that you parsing?
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:04 PM
Nov 2019
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Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
46. States under a Biden administration are free to legalize it...I would remind you that not all states
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:16 PM
Nov 2019

have legalized booze in all communities...it is a state matter. Some have done so recently too

1.1 States that permit localities to go dry

2 Alabama
3 Alaska
4 Arkansas
5 Connecticut
6 Florida
7 Georgia
8 Illinois
9 Kansas
10 Kentucky
11 Maine
12 Massachusetts
13 Michigan
14 Minnesota
15 Mississippi
16 Nevada
17 New Hampshire
18 New Jersey
19 New Mexico
20 New York
21 North Carolina
22 Ohio
23 Oregon
24 Pennsylvania
25 South Carolina
26 South Dakota
27 Tennessee
28 Texas
29 Utah
30 Virginia
31 Washington
32 Wisconsin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dry_communities_by_U.S._state#Ohio

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beastie boy

(9,310 posts)
69. Actually, it means eliminating criminality.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:09 AM
Nov 2019

This is what "de" usually stands for. A misdemeanor is not a crime.

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aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
70. "A misdemeanor is not a crime." Uhhh. Yes it is.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:10 AM
Nov 2019
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beastie boy

(9,310 posts)
71. My bad. It is a crime. It is not a felony. Like jaywalking is a crime but not a felony.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:19 AM
Nov 2019
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aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
92. True, the penalties are not as severe for misdemeanors, but...
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 02:26 PM
Nov 2019

...many job applications require you to check a box for any conviction (even misdemeanors).

And drug convictions still lock you out of things like financial aid for college.

I hope Joe keeps evolving on this.
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beastie boy

(9,310 posts)
94. I thought Biden was clear on this: EXPUNGE THEIR CRIMINAL RECORDS!
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 02:58 PM
Nov 2019
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aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
95. It doesn't necessarily apply to "the box".
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 05:38 PM
Nov 2019

It often asks if you were ever arrested or convicted. If it comes out that you were (even with an expunged record) you can still be fired for lying on the application.

Its really terrible and I support Ban the Box on job applications.
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beastie boy

(9,310 posts)
99. Penalties for possession of Schedule 3 drugs are about the same as for drunk driving.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 07:36 PM
Nov 2019

Your arrest and conviction record would also look similar. Your chances of being fired for it are about the same as well. Have you ever heard of anyone arrested for illegal possession of tylenol with codein or an anabolic steroid? Those are Schedule 3 drugs. Yes, it could happen, but I've never heard of anyone losing a job over it. Unless you have zero self-control and zero sense of self-preservation, in which case you are a danger to society and should pay the consequences.

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The Mouth

(3,148 posts)
81. And *HAS* to be mentioned and explained
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:56 PM
Nov 2019

on any many applications.

There's full legalization, and there's reactionary boot licking fascism, nothing else, in my opinion. Anyone against full legalization and removing it from ANY federal regulation or scheduling might as well be fellating Trump for my opinion of them.

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beastie boy

(9,310 posts)
112. I pity you.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 08:56 AM
Nov 2019

Apparently, you live in a country where boot-wearing fascists routinely punish their citizens with severe forced bootlicking for petty crimes like jaywalking, letting your pet off the leash and illegal possession of tylenol with codeine. And the law abiding citizens, to prove their loyalty, must engage in fellating their leader on a regular basis. Leaves a bitter taste in their mouths, I am sure.

You know, metaphors are a wonderful literary device. But even they, if one tries hard enough, can be made to sound absolutely ridiculous.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
106. It is a crime that draws a fine, not prison if convicted.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 11:21 PM
Nov 2019

That is a massive difference.

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aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
108. Misdemeanors often allow the convicted to be jailed for up to 1 year
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 11:57 PM
Nov 2019

but you're right that is not prison, per se.

Which is to highlight that legalization is different than decriminalization.
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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
105. Decriminalization reduces the penalty to a Fine.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 11:19 PM
Nov 2019

Currently in too many states having Pot in one's possession is a felony that can result in prison.

He is right to leave legalization up to states.

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totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
109. I for one want to support a candidate who unambiguously supports legalizing
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:34 AM
Nov 2019

recreational pot on the federal level. Anything less is unacceptable.

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The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
43. The black market is booming since legalization here in California.
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:12 PM
Nov 2019

The black market is three times the size of the regulated market.

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The Mouth

(3,148 posts)
82. Because it's taxed very heavily
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:57 PM
Nov 2019

They are killing the goose that could be laying golden eggs.

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The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
84. The promise that marijuana sales would generate significant tax revenue...
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 01:14 PM
Nov 2019

was one of the key reasons legalization passed.

It has turned out to be a largely false promise. Instead, unregulated "dispensaries" and delivery services are operating (quite openly) as criminal enterprises that do not collect taxes, often to not conform to the regulations in place, and supply marijuana (and particularly vaping products) to minors.

It has been a disaster here in CA and adolescents are paying the biggest price due to the negative impact of marijuana use on learning, brain development, loss of IQ, emotional and mental health issues, and academic failure.

We had better come up with a better approach than the model we have here in CA. We have too much at stake.

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The Mouth

(3,148 posts)
85. Legalize it and keep the taxes reasonable
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 01:22 PM
Nov 2019

And spare me about the 'negative impact', the only brain damage is among people who think there is anything wrong with adults consuming it, who might as well have MAGA tattooed on their forehead for all the good they do for society.

Negative impact my butt, to hell with the Reefer Madness bullshit.

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The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
87. Sorry, I won't "spare you" from the truth.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 01:35 PM
Nov 2019

Slandering Democrats who listen to the science as MAGAs is seriously uncool.

The impacts of marijuana consumption on adolescent brains is chilling and well demonstrated in the medical literature and in real-world experience.

Since legalization here access to vape products containing THC by minors has become ubiquitous.

Most of "the industry" is operating criminally.

You are dead-wrong.

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The Mouth

(3,148 posts)
88. Aren't you on the wrong forum?
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 01:43 PM
Nov 2019

There are some places for drug warriors, though.. I think they start with 'Free..', something

OBVIOUSLY legalization doesn't refer to children, quite the strawman there, though. Kids, under 18 have never been able to buy, possess, or use marijuana under ANY proposed legalization, exactly as with booze.

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The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
90. Definitely NOT!
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 01:56 PM
Nov 2019

Your postings here are very abusive.

I'm not a "drug warrior," I'm a person with a functioning mind who looks at the serious science around drug abuse and its effects on the development of adolescent brains.

Legalization here in CA has unleashed unprecedented access to THC in the form of vape pens by teenagers, and educators are seeing the harm being done to their students.

Legalization also doesn't "refer" to the explosion of illegal pot shops or illegal delivery enterprises, yet since "legalization" criminal enterprises has grown to a level where they dwarf the legal dispensaries.

And guess what? Criminals often have no compunctions about selling to minors.

That's the real world.





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LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
91. I was going to ask you the same question
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 02:04 PM
Nov 2019
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The Mouth

(3,148 posts)
93. No,
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 02:34 PM
Nov 2019

I don't revel in imprisoning massive parts of our population as the drug warriors do.

And yes, I have utter and eternal hostility to anyone who would deign to regulate what I, or any adult, can put in my body as long as it's not effecting you directly and measurably. Consequences for one's actions, sure, making mere substances illegal, hell no, and particularly marijuana.

I'm glad Joe has clarified his position; let the states decide is good enough; the people who want weed regulated in any way, shape, or form for adult use? damned right I'll be abusive to those folks, they are the assholes who have made people paranoid and/or forced to bear having a criminal record for all of my life, they deserve scorn.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
107. Several medical studies have shown that Pot use below a specific age is detrimental.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 11:28 PM
Nov 2019

States should handle Pot the way they do cigarettes. Cig packs have to have a stamp on them, if someone is caught with a lot of packs with no stamp, they go to jail.

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questionseverything

(9,651 posts)
64. because if it was legal peops in subsidized housing could use it
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 04:05 AM
Nov 2019

the way he wants things its one set of laws for the rich another for the poor

same ole shit dif decade

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
104. Legalization should be decided by states. Decriminalization, Rescheduling Classification,
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 11:16 PM
Nov 2019

making research on Pot possible should be Federal efforts (laws).

Florida could very well legalize Pot for all use in 2020, it would be the first southern state to do so. Once Florida has done so, Georgia likely would be the next state to do full legalization.

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bluedovepdx

(28 posts)
25. Fuzzy on the issue
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 10:06 PM
Nov 2019

Joe Biden Worries Marijuana Is A ‘Gateway Drug,’ Won’t Yet Back Federal Legalization

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5dd2b719e4b02947481b6cdc

I'll stick with candidates who support full federal legalization. The Biden quotes in the article are
very recent therefore the flip on his position on the
issue was very recent. Still not good enough for me,
an Oregon resident that doesn't understand the go
slow approach of so many politicians. They just
have to research the states where marijuana is
legal.

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Cha

(297,149 posts)
34. you do that.. I'll stay with Biden who is
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 10:37 PM
Nov 2019

leading all the candidates and in beating trump.

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bluedovepdx

(28 posts)
44. beating trump
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:12 PM
Nov 2019

Several candidates including Bernie and EW are beating Trump in head-to-head polls. Supporting Biden in the primary based on that is silly. I'll support a candidate that recognizes the corrupt political system needs fundamental change. That candidate is not Joe Biden. He's the past (with plenty of bad senate votes to go along with it). I'm looking to the future. Polls show Biden has little support amongst young voters. His voter base is 50+ folks. We'll see how it all plays out but if he's the nominee I want to know how he plans to energize young voters. I don't see it happening.

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Cha

(297,149 posts)
48. Biden is stronger.. and I like him for the job.. he
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:17 PM
Nov 2019

has more experience and is the best qualified.

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bluedovepdx

(28 posts)
53. All
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:42 PM
Nov 2019

ambiguous subjective qualities but ok. Small change is not appealing to me but if it works for you....that's the beauty of the primaries. Hillary was a small change corporate Dem and despite winning the popular vote she lost the election. Why go small change/corporate/establishment again? I think it's unwise.

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Cha

(297,149 posts)
57. I'd say being a valued VP under Pres Obama for 8 years..
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:54 PM
Nov 2019

and with all of Biden's foreign policy experience is more than "subjective".

I'm not trying to change your mind.. I'm just stating why I support Biden for POTUS.

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Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
42. It is not a voting issue for me but Biden's position is fine with me.
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:10 PM
Nov 2019
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melman

(7,681 posts)
35. So, still against legalization then
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 10:50 PM
Nov 2019

Okay. Thanks for clearing that up.

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Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
41. Legalization will happen at the state level...and Biden won't interfere with that...so sour grapes-
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:07 PM
Nov 2019

so bitter! Biden is leading this primary...despite all the efforts to take him down...what three or four breathless posts on this today...and it won't work. Biden can beat Trump. I have no idea why anyone would support a candidate who may or may not
(mostly not) ) win the general.

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melman

(7,681 posts)
45. It's not sour grapes
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:15 PM
Nov 2019

It's true. He is against legalization. This is an important issue for a lot of people. You may find it trivial but other people don't.

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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
72. Moving the goalposts again, eh?
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:20 AM
Nov 2019

Only yesterday, we heard the sweet dulcet tones of the choir singing how out of touch and out of tune Biden is in his absolutism. Today's revelation forced the opportunity to create a none-too-clever codicil of revisionism.

My hat's off you you, indeed!

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melman

(7,681 posts)
78. You should keep your hat on
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:42 PM
Nov 2019

Because I moved no goalposts and engaged in no revisionism.

and btw, there was no revelation either. He's against legalization and always has been.

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bluedovepdx

(28 posts)
47. employment
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:16 PM
Nov 2019

Failure to legalize at the federal level has consequences, such as my employment status. Where I work it's a fireable offense because of federal law...in a state where it's legal. This matters to lots of people. Biden fails to do what is sensible and right.

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JoeOtterbein

(7,700 posts)
36. So some people will still be locked up for doing the same thing big business are allowed to make...
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 10:55 PM
Nov 2019

...billions.

Well, I guess that's kinda kind. Like in 1990 or something.

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questionseverything

(9,651 posts)
65. people in public housing cant use it
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 04:14 AM
Nov 2019

Illinois just announced it even tho will be legal in Illinois

one set of rules for the rich another for the poor

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JudyM

(29,233 posts)
66. Same for seniors in facilities that receive government funding.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 09:40 AM
Nov 2019
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questionseverything

(9,651 posts)
98. exactly, he is so out of touch with regular peoples lives
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 07:00 PM
Nov 2019

people still lose their kids over mj, lose their jobs, their housing and evidently he doesn't care


lose their student loans...heck I could go on and on

none of that will change with biden's plan

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Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
101. Please don't make too much sense here
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:08 PM
Nov 2019

you will get for it.

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Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
40. That is perfect. That takes the wind out of their sails.
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:04 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Cha

(297,149 posts)
50. Kicking for Joe Biden!
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:32 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Jewls2

(218 posts)
51. Thanks for making that one clear, Joe.
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:37 PM
Nov 2019
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The Wizard

(12,541 posts)
54. What percentage of those wanting to keep cannabis possession
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:46 PM
Nov 2019

a crime would vote for any Democrat? Appealing to those who would never vote for you is like pissing into the wind. The base says legalization. Turn out the base and win.

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flotsam

(3,268 posts)
55. When he legalizes medical marijuana
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:46 PM
Nov 2019

what happens in states that do not? Will there be one federal standard for covered conditions and medical card process? Will medicare cover marijuana costs? Will medical pharmacies be allowed to dispense? Just asking because "Legalize Medical Marijuana" sounds more like an applause line than a plan.

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proud patriot

(100,705 posts)
58. this critic appreciates
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:55 PM
Nov 2019

the clarification

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OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
59. Parse each word. We need federal law
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:02 AM
Nov 2019

Prohibition got Articles in the Constitution

“Should” How about no one will be

Until federal law change it still feels like shaky ground.

Retract the “gateway drug” position.

Controls on the strength of pot

Stuff out there is too strong imho

Where’s the seedy stuff that made us laugh & think profound thoughts? Late 1960s.

Guess it’s complicated

Against legalization will lose young voters
And old 😂

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Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
60. Based on Joe Biden's history of being a huge Drug War supporter
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:09 AM
Nov 2019

...I don't trust him to fight for even those limited reforms.

I trust Bernie Sanders to "Legalize marijuana in the first 100 days with executive action."
https://berniesanders.com/issues/legalizing-marijuana/

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Cha

(297,149 posts)
61. I don't care if you "trust" him or not.. Many more
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:50 AM
Nov 2019

people do trust Joe Biden. He's the one beating trump,.. not BS.

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The Mouth

(3,148 posts)
96. Actions speak louder than words
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 05:46 PM
Nov 2019

In 1989, at the height of punitive anti-drug and mass incarceration politics, Biden, then a senator, went on national television to criticize a plan from President George H.W. Bush to escalate the war on drugs. The plan, Biden said, didn’t go far enough.

“Quite frankly, the president’s plan is not tough enough, bold enough, or imaginative enough to meet the crisis at hand,” he said. He called not just for harsher punishments for drug dealers but to “hold every drug user accountable.” Bush’s plan, Biden added, “doesn’t include enough police officers to catch the violent thugs, not enough prosecutors to convict them, not enough judges to sentence them, and not enough prison cells to put them away for a long time” — a direct call for more incarceration.


As the head of the Senate Judiciary Committee in the late 1980s and early ’90s, Biden did not just support the war on drugs and mass incarceration; he wrote many of the laws that helped build a punitive criminal justice system. That included measures that enacted more incarceration, more prisons, and tougher prison sentences for drug offenses



https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/4/25/18282870/joe-biden-criminal-justice-war-on-drugs-mass-incarceration

When you're to the right of Bush on something.....

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Indykatie

(3,695 posts)
62. I'm Glad Biden Clarified His Position
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 02:18 AM
Nov 2019

That he was against legalization Period without additional context bothered me. I won't lie.

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JudyM

(29,233 posts)
67. I'm sleep deprived this morning, but didn't he just say he viewed it as a gateway drug?
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 09:46 AM
Nov 2019

If so, it doesn’t square with his formal campaign position on the matter... If it’s a “gateway drug,” how does he justify loosening restrictions on it? Where’s the consistency?

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The Mouth

(3,148 posts)
86. That was then, this is now
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 01:25 PM
Nov 2019

Try to keep up, we've always been at war with Eastasia

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treestar

(82,383 posts)
74. Sounds perfectly reasonable
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:54 AM
Nov 2019

and like busing, this is not a huge issue now. If you are crazy about marijuana, then move to a state where it is legal. The federal government legalizing it is not even all that necessary.

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Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
76. Sounds reasonable and progressive
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 11:20 AM
Nov 2019
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OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
77. THis is pretty much what it said in the article that started all this hubbub
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 11:29 AM
Nov 2019

The thing is, the title really sucked and most people didn't bother to read the article.
Comments were made reading only the title, or jabbing at Biden with obvious bias.

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progressoid

(49,978 posts)
83. The "hubbub" was that he thinks weed might be a gateway drug.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 01:04 PM
Nov 2019
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The Mouth

(3,148 posts)
79. Good. Not great, but good enough
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:49 PM
Nov 2019

Marijuana shouldn't be on *any* schedule, but then I don't see where in the Constitution it says anything about the government having any say in what I put in my body (state and local laws regarding DUI and such are the place to deal with such issues).

The last thing we need is to make the marginally involved, apathetic, 'might vote' folks think it's just another old, white guy peddling more of the same.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
103. I am exactly where he is on every point.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 11:07 PM
Nov 2019

He stated my position perfectly. Decriminalization should be a federal law, but legalization both medically and recreationally should be left up to states. Many states have or are moving to legalize medical Pot. My state legalized medical Pot in 2016 and there may be a Prop on the 2020 ballot to legalize it for recreational use.

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R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
110. Joe is totally right on every point. Not to mention that
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:47 AM
Nov 2019

those with jobs that do random drug/alcohol tests don’t really have pot smoking rights as a huge priority.

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Gothmog

(145,129 posts)
111. Nate Silver has some great observations
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 02:30 AM
Nov 2019
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Gothmog

(145,129 posts)
113. Biden did not say that Marijuana is a gateway drug
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 01:02 AM
Nov 2019

Here is Biden's actual statement


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Gothmog

(145,129 posts)
114. FDA warns 15 companies for illegally selling....cannabidiol as agency details safety concerns
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 05:59 PM
Nov 2019

The concerns that the FDA has with respect to CBD will also apply to legalize marijuana




Today, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration issued warning letters to 15 companies for illegally selling products containing cannabidiol (CBD) in ways that violate the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (FD&C Act). The FDA also published a revised Consumer Update detailing safety concerns about CBD products more broadly. Based on the lack of scientific information supporting the safety of CBD in food, the FDA is also indicating today that it cannot conclude that CBD is generally recognized as safe (GRAS) among qualified experts for its use in human or animal food.

Today’s actions come as the FDA continues to explore potential pathways for various types of CBD products to be lawfully marketed. This includes ongoing work to obtain and evaluate information to address outstanding questions related to the safety of CBD products, while maintaining the agency’s rigorous public health standards. The FDA plans to provide an update on its progress regarding the agency’s approach to these products in the coming weeks.

“As we work quickly to further clarify our regulatory approach for products containing cannabis and cannabis-derived compounds like CBD, we’ll continue to monitor the marketplace and take action as needed against companies that violate the law in ways that raise a variety of public health concerns. In line with our mission to protect the public, foster innovation, and promote consumer confidence, this overarching approach regarding CBD is the same as the FDA would take for any other substance that we regulate,” said FDA Principal Deputy Commissioner Amy Abernethy, M.D., Ph.D. “We remain concerned that some people wrongly think that the myriad of CBD products on the market, many of which are illegal, have been evaluated by the FDA and determined to be safe, or that trying CBD ‘can’t hurt.’ Aside from one prescription drug approved to treat two pediatric epilepsy disorders, these products have not been approved by the FDA and we want to be clear that a number of questions remain regarding CBD’s safety – including reports of products containing contaminants, such as pesticides and heavy metals – and there are real risks that need to be considered. We recognize the significant public interest in CBD and we must work together with stakeholders and industry to fill in the knowledge gaps about the science, safety and quality of many of these products.”

Many unanswered questions and data gaps about CBD toxicity exist, and some of the available data raise serious concerns about potential harm from CBD. The revised Consumer Update outlines specific safety concerns related to CBD products, including potential liver injury, interactions with other drugs, drowsiness, diarrhea, and changes in mood. In addition, studies in animals have shown that CBD can interfere with the development and function of testes and sperm, decrease testosterone levels and impair sexual behavior in males. Questions also remain about cumulative use of CBD and about CBD’s impacts on vulnerable populations such as children and pregnant or breastfeeding women.
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