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Mon Nov 11, 2019, 05:03 PM

 

''I am very concerned about what appears to be a coup in Bolivia... ''


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Reply ''I am very concerned about what appears to be a coup in Bolivia... '' (Original post)
Donkees Nov 11 OP
dewsgirl Nov 11 #1
alwaysinasnit Nov 11 #26
Uncle Joe Nov 11 #2
guillaumeb Nov 11 #3
MarcA Nov 11 #4
oldsoftie Nov 11 #7
OldRed2450 Nov 11 #9
oldsoftie Nov 11 #17
floppyboo Nov 11 #5
oldsoftie Nov 11 #6
melman Nov 11 #8
George II Nov 11 #14
melman Nov 11 #15
George II Nov 11 #29
RandiFan1290 Nov 12 #33
redqueen Nov 11 #10
OldRed2450 Nov 11 #11
ChubbyStar Nov 11 #12
OldRed2450 Nov 11 #16
ChubbyStar Nov 11 #18
George II Nov 11 #13
OldRed2450 Nov 11 #19
oldsoftie Nov 11 #20
George II Nov 11 #22
oldsoftie Nov 11 #23
tritsofme Nov 11 #32
UniteFightBack Nov 11 #21
George II Nov 11 #24
Aaron Pereira Nov 11 #25
sheshe2 Nov 11 #31
alwaysinasnit Nov 11 #27
Kurt V. Nov 11 #28
Happy Hoosier Nov 11 #30

Response to Donkees (Original post)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 05:09 PM

1. His family's homes were burned and they rounded his family

 

up and threatened to kill them. All of this was done with US backing. Trump helped alright, he backed this right wing coup.

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Response to dewsgirl (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 09:25 PM

26. +1000

 

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Response to Donkees (Original post)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 05:16 PM

2. Kicked and recommended.

 

Thanks for the thread Donkees.
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Response to Donkees (Original post)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 05:27 PM

3. Recommended Donkees.

 

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Response to Donkees (Original post)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 05:36 PM

4. I would like to see a response to this from each Democratic Candidate. n/t

 

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Response to MarcA (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 05:45 PM

7. I would imagine all but one would back the people of Bolivia.

 

The last election was corrupted. He illegally ran for another term to begin with.
Now maybe they can have a REAL election.
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Response to MarcA (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 08:03 PM

9. I hope to high heaven it's not what Bernie said.

 

How do we know it was a coup? It's incredibly irresponsible to call it a coup. Now more than ever I am freaked out by how Bernie would govern regarding foreign policy. Did he say this just because Evo said nice things about him or does he have facts?
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Response to OldRed2450 (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 08:43 PM

17. Well, Bernie said the American dream was more apt to be realized in Venezuela.

 

So why would this be a shocker?

https://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/must-read/close-the-gaps-disparities-that-threaten-america
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Response to Donkees (Original post)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 05:40 PM

5. Well fuck that! New Argentian PM, Mexico, and Lula are BACK!

 

and Venezuela never left. So, question is, when all the SA members of OAS leave, what will be left?
Bolsonaro is on notice!
Ecuador is not giving up!

It can't be too soon to see a Sanders Presidency!!!
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Response to Donkees (Original post)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 05:44 PM

6. The military didnt remove him, he stepped down. He was corrupt & the last vote was as well.

 

Although he HAD lost the military support & likely would have been removed at some point.
And he broke the law by taking office for another term anyway. He got HIS court packed with HIS judges, to rule that he could. You know how we talk about Trumps SCOTUS? Same thing here. But thats the norm for leaders like him; stay forever if possible. Thankfully the people of Bolivia saw what was coming and regained power before their country turned into another Venezuela
The NYT has more actual news on the story as well as the factors leading up to it

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/10/world/americas/evo-morales-bolivia.html
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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 07:52 PM

8. Watch this

 


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Response to melman (Reply #8)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 08:25 PM

14. The Mayor of Vinto is not the President of Bolivia.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #14)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 08:31 PM

15. Gross

 

You see a woman brutally beaten and your response is to troll with gifs?
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Response to melman (Reply #15)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 10:22 PM

29. So now you're calling me a troll? HAH!!!!

 

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Response to melman (Reply #15)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 05:25 AM

33. How disgusting

 

Right wingers love that kind of stuff.

Makes me sick to my stomach.
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Response to Donkees (Original post)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 08:09 PM

10. K&R nt

 

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Response to Donkees (Original post)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 08:10 PM

11. It was a coup by the people of Bolivia

 

Morales wasn’t even legally allowed to run for President again in the last election, which he cheated in. He was completely illegitimate.

The people are the ones who want him gone. He's a socialist dictator and no USA candidate should support him.
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Response to OldRed2450 (Reply #11)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 08:21 PM

12. WTF?

 

I'm still laughing.
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Response to ChubbyStar (Reply #12)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 08:39 PM

16. Why?

 

What part of Dictator Morales ran fraudulent elections in Blovia as declared by the independent OEA' do some people not seem to get? That is why he resigned. It was NOT a coup
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Response to OldRed2450 (Reply #16)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 08:43 PM

18. That is very aggressive

 

Your opinion.
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Response to Donkees (Original post)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 08:24 PM

13. It most certainly was NOT a "coup".

 

The Atlantic: "Evo Morales Finally Went Too Far for Bolivia"

The socialist president claimed authoritarian powers in the name of the popular will. But average citizens were fed up with arbitrary rule.

Evo Morales has been attacking Bolivia’s democracy for many years. Since coming to office in 2006, the socialist president has concentrated ever more authority in his own hands, denounced the opposition in aggressive terms, and placed loyalists in key institutions, from the country’s public broadcaster to its highest court.

Like many populists on both the left and the right, Morales claimed to wield power in the name of the people. But after weeks of mass protests in La Paz and other Bolivian cities, and the rapid crumbling of his support both within law enforcement and his own political party, it was his loss of legitimacy among the majority of his own countrymen that forced Morales to resign yesterday.

What he and some of his most credulous Western supporters described as a coup was in fact something very different: proof that Bolivians—like the citizens of many other countries around the world—resent arbitrary rule. The longer they have suffered from oppression, the more they have come to value the democratic institutions that are now threatened by populists around the globe.

As Morales started to come up against the two-term limit for presidents stipulated by the constitution he himself had championed in 2009, his enmity toward any semblance of the rule of law became more and more evident. In 2016, he held a binding referendum that would allow him to stay in office indefinitely. When a majority of Bolivians voted down the proposal, Morales resorted to his tight control of previously independent institutions to get his way. In 2017, the country’s supreme court ruled that limits on the length of his tenure in office would violate Morales’s human rights.


www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/11/evo-morales-finally-went-too-far-bolivia/601741/

In other words, he evolved into a dictator.
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Response to George II (Reply #13)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 08:43 PM

19. Exactly!

 

If it was a coup, it was a coup by the people. https://twitter.com/anesperitlliure
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Response to George II (Reply #13)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 08:45 PM

20. But you'll see the DU Chavez apologists come out in force against the facts.

 

Gotta move quick to push the "coup" narrative
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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #20)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 08:50 PM

22. What was a "coup" was ignoring the term limits and remaining in power for a third and....

 

....as of a few weeks ago a fourth term.
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Response to George II (Reply #22)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 09:10 PM

23. Exactly. Ignored because its inconvenient.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #13)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 11:15 PM

32. **crickets**

 

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Response to Donkees (Original post)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 08:50 PM

21. He gave himself some room with the 'what appears to be' bullshit. nt

 

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Response to UniteFightBack (Reply #21)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 09:11 PM

24. Just like using "it has been reported" to claim things that aren't true.

 

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Response to Donkees (Original post)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 09:18 PM

25. Trump's State Dept is rushing to defend this violent coup.

 

This should be an easy one, where are we? I stand with Bernie on this one.
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Response to Aaron Pereira (Reply #25)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 10:39 PM

31. Welp.

 

Aaron Pereira
25. Trump's State Dept is rushing to defend this violent coup.


This should be an easy one, where are we? I stand with Bernie on this one.


Well if trumpie and state department think it is a good think then ya!!!!!! One must also believe separation of families, caged children, is beautiful. I for one do not believe a thing they say.
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Response to Donkees (Original post)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 09:27 PM

27. K&R

 

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Response to Donkees (Original post)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 09:33 PM

28. It's a coup

 

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Response to Donkees (Original post)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 10:33 PM

30. It's a mess, but..

 

Morales is in the mold of Chavez and Maduro. He has corruptly worked to establish his power permanently. Way too many here in the USA naively embraced Chavez and his ilk.
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