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Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:35 PM

 

BuzzFeed: Democrats' worries about electability are increasingly focused on Medicare For All

That's a shortened version of their very long headline:

Democrats Have Spent All Year Freaked Out About "Electability." That Panic Is Increasingly Focused On Medicare For All.


https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/mollyhensleyclancy/the-democrats-freakout-over-electability-is-increasingly


CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa — There’s just one thing holding Bernie Michaels back from voting for Elizabeth Warren.

“It’s long past due that a woman becomes president,” Michaels, who lives in Hiawatha, Iowa, said. “If Warren didn’t have that single-payer thing on her, I would be behind her. I would probably choose her. But I just don’t see that being electable.”

Michaels is retired now, but when he was a member of the Carpenters Local union, his insurance helped him navigate a major health crisis with just a few hundred dollars in copays — insurance he and his union fought for, he said. “People don’t want to give that up.”

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If the singular issue of Medicare for All becomes increasingly linked with electability — the factor that remains many Democrats’ top priority in the primary — it could spell trouble for Warren, who has already struggled with questions about whether she can beat President Donald Trump. Bernie Sanders, too, has hinged his candidacy on Medicare for All, but has faced less scrutiny — in part because he has run a campaign less focused on broad appeal to moderate voters than Warren has.

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So far in the primary, the question of what makes a candidate “electable” has varied wildly from one voter to the next. Some say it means finding someone who could drive up turnout in cities and Democratic strongholds, while others are looking to someone whose policies appeal to moderate swing voters or a candidate that they think can go toe-to-toe with Trump on the debate stage.

That’s still true. But polls and interviews with voters in Iowa show signs of a worrying trend for Democrats backing single-payer health care: voters who fear that Medicare for All will make candidates less electable against Trump, and, perhaps most importantly, rival Democratic campaigns looking to fuel that belief.

The voters who will matter the most in the general election are decidedly negative on Medicare for All. A poll this week of undecided “swing” voters in Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Pennsylvania — states once known as the “blue wall” that tipped hard to Trump in 2016 — found that a large majority of voters think the single-payer health care plan is a “bad idea.” Just 36% of swing voters said Medicare for all was a “good idea.”

And early-state voters are noticing. A poll in the Des Moines Register from September found that 52% of likely caucus-goers in Iowa thought Democratic candidates shouldn’t run on Medicare for All. Twenty-four percent said outright that they thought it was bad policy, but another 28% liked the policy themselves — but opposed it because they feared it could cost Democrats the general election.

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Long article, but well worth reading in its entirety.

The article points out that "No one sees more of an opportunity in turning voters against Medicare for All than Mayor Pete Buttigieg, who has surged in Iowa."

But there's also a quote from Sherrod Brown (who isn't in favor of MFA) saying he thinks candidates who support MFA now will be able to "evolve" away from MFA by the general election. (I love Sherrod Brown, but I think it's way too late for Warren and Sanders to do that. And I don't think Sanders would even consider it.)
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:39 PM

1. K&R Very interesting. This is why I am not ruling out a Biden win in Iowa.

 

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Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:42 PM

3. Harris could do that but Warren and Sanders are trapped. How about rallying around the guy who is

 

already beating dump in the swing states? To me that sounds like the easiest thing to do and would ensure success.

It's a no brainer which leads me to that if everybody just votes with their head and the aim is to beat dumps ass to an orange pasty bloody pulp then vote for Joe Biden.
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Response to UniteFightBack (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:54 PM

5. Indeed they are trapped! If they back away now their campaigns would not recover

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:46 PM

4. aren't these same union plans the "cadilac" plans that the aca taxed?

 

I am tired of hearing how people that have every coverage in the world do not want it for everyone

is mayor pete just running to make sure no progressive ideas are put forward?
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Response to questionseverything (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:16 PM

6. One of the reasons Bloomberg is running

 

is to highlight what he perceives to be the folly of nominating a candidate who supports MFA ……. Yet his quixotic campaign increases the possibility that a MFA supporter will win the nomination ………..On Super Tuesday , he is going to take away votes from whichever centrist candidate (probably Biden, possibly Pete ) emerges from the results in the early states …….
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Response to questionseverything (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:18 PM

7. I could see that if M4All were a) the only way to cover everyone b) going to happen before the

 

next ten years. c) we had no other good, workable plans in place to build on. Finally, you can rail at people who feel the way they do all you want. Will not make M4All more popular.

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Response to emmaverybo (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 06:02 PM

10. it is the only way to cover everyone with out protecting insurance companies profits

 

so there is that
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Response to questionseverything (Reply #10)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 06:44 PM

12. What do we do until M4All is up and running? We can regulate insurance companies. But many

 

supporters just say abolish them. I can’t embrace a pie in the sky plan because insurance companies
make obscene profits.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:52 PM

8. interesting about Sen Sherrod Brown

 

being against, mfa.. I didn't know that.

Thank you, hpd!
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 12:15 AM

9. Yep, it's a stinker.

 

People want universal coverage. No one wants brand new untried ideas/plans shoved down their throats. Just give folks an option and let them decide for themselves. Pushing people fails. Attracting people works.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 06:33 PM

11. M4A isn't a loser or a winner. at least not yet

 

As a stand in for the normal angst this time in the cycle normally engenders it is just a hook.

Warren can certainly back away from it post New Hampshire if she has to. Her people will follow her and it would seem a pragmatic move.

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Response to judeling (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 06:50 PM

13. That will really finish her. What does it look like when she has run on not much more than this plan

 

to reject it because of political pressure?
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Response to emmaverybo (Reply #13)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 08:02 PM

14. No like a recognition of reality if done riht

 

M4A is the best solution. But the country doesn't appear ready for it. I will continue to fight for it. But it is more important to get working and Fix the damage Trump has done. So here is my plan to get the country ready for it while making what we have the best it can be even if it isn't the best that could be.

I really don't think that would hurt her too much in a head to head with say Biden.

The pivot would not happen until after she doesn't need to worry about Bernie as much.
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Response to judeling (Reply #14)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 10:06 PM

15. Well, put like that, if Bernie has sunk, yes. She would then be the only progressive candidate. Nt

 

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