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Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:17 PM

 

Bernie Sanders Dominates 2020 Presidential Field in Donations From Suburban Women



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The data shows that women are politically engaged earlier in the election than ever before, more than 1 million have already donated $131 million itemized dollars to presidential candidates. Men, however, still make up the largest donor group. For every dollar given, $0.57 came from a man and $0.43 came from a woman. It also found that no one presidential candidate is carrying that almighty suburban female vote just yet, but that some candidates are making greater inroads than others. Namely: Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders.

Of all the potential 2020 candidates, Sanders has taken in the most money from women, raising about $17.1 million in itemized contributions, or 40% of his total funds. Trailing just behind Sanders is Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg and Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), each with about $15 million coming from women. Surprisingly, itís a female candidate, Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii), who received the least amount of funding from women, with just $1.05 million coming in.

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Sanders, meanwhile has received more than $13 million in small-dollar donations from nearly 280,000 suburban women. Combining small and large-dollar donations, Sanders earned more than any other presidential candidate amongst suburban women with a total of $15 million from small and large donors alike.

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Sanders and Warren do well in diverse suburban districts, while Trump does better in suburbs that are less diverse.

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https://fortune.com/2019/11/08/bernie-sanders-women-donors-poll-2020/

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Reply Bernie Sanders Dominates 2020 Presidential Field in Donations From Suburban Women (Original post)
Uncle Joe Friday OP
George II Friday #1
House of Roberts Friday #2
George II Friday #3
ritapria Friday #4
George II Friday #7
Uncle Joe Friday #10
George II Friday #13
Uncle Joe Friday #16
George II Friday #17
Uncle Joe Friday #18
George II Friday #19
Uncle Joe Friday #20
George II Friday #22
TexasTowelie Saturday #26
InAbLuEsTaTe Friday #5
George II Friday #8
Uncle Joe Saturday #27
InAbLuEsTaTe Saturday #28
JoeOtterbein Friday #6
CentralMass Friday #9
emmaverybo Friday #11
George II Friday #14
floppyboo Saturday #24
floppyboo Saturday #25
emmaverybo Saturday #33
ismnotwasm Friday #12
floppyboo Friday #15
InAbLuEsTaTe Saturday #29
TexasTowelie Friday #21
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floppyboo Saturday #30
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Response to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:19 PM

1. Inasmuch as only a small fraction of his contributions are itemized, how do we really know?

 

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Response to George II (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:23 PM

2. The article said this...

 

"A recent report by the Center for Responsive Politics used fundraising data made available by the Federal Elections Commission to analyze where women were putting their money, and likely their votes, in the upcoming presidential election."

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Response to House of Roberts (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:27 PM

3. Yes, but of the so-called "millions" of contributors, as of June 30 only 22,000 were itemized....

 

...the rest were un-itemized.

That means other than those 22,000 we know virtually nothing about the others - no name, no address, no occupation, no employer, and most importantly no amount.

Plus, FEC doesn't require reporting the gender of any contributor.
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Response to George II (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:46 PM

4. I believe more data comes from people who make contributions of 200 dollars or more

 

I am not 100% sure on this
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Response to ritapria (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:59 PM

7. You're correct. Contributions are itemized for those over $200 or in aggregate over $200...

 

...all others are "unitemized" with no information available whatsoever.

Plus, candidate committees do not report gender (or age) of contributors. Only one campaign dwells on these undocumented demographics, and it's entirely speculative.
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Response to George II (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:17 PM

10. The OP is only speaking of itemized contributions.

 



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The data shows that women are politically engaged earlier in the election than ever before, more than 1 million have already donated $131 million itemized dollars to presidential candidates. Men, however, still make up the largest donor group. For every dollar given, $0.57 came from a man and $0.43 came from a woman. It also found that no one presidential candidate is carrying that almighty suburban female vote just yet, but that some candidates are making greater inroads than others. Namely: Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders.

Of all the potential 2020 candidates, Sanders has taken in the most money from women, raising about $17.1 million in itemized contributions, or 40% of his total funds. Trailing just behind Sanders is Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg and Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), each with about $15 million coming from women. Surprisingly, itís a female candidate, Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii), who received the least amount of funding from women, with just $1.05 million coming in.

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https://fortune.com/2019/11/08/bernie-sanders-women-donors-poll-2020/



So what is exactly is your quibble?
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Response to Uncle Joe (Reply #10)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:26 PM

13. I don't argue with that. But if you look at the details of the FEC filings....

 

....less than 30% of BS' contributions are itemized (dollar wise) and an even smaller fraction are itemized with respect to # of contributors - 22,000 of the claimed million+, that's less than 3%!

Plus, there is no explicit data available about the gender of contributors, so all of this is speculative. It's based on an interpretation of the names of those contributors who are itemized. How do we know that contributors are women or men? We don't.
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Response to George II (Reply #13)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:28 PM

16. The OP is not speaking about non-itemized campaign contributions.

 

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Response to Uncle Joe (Reply #16)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:31 PM

17. Correct, so they're dismissing more than 70% of the contributions. You're okay with that?

 

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Response to George II (Reply #17)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:38 PM

18. For the purpose of this study today, yea. It is what it is, even if it's not a complete picture.

 

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Response to Uncle Joe (Reply #18)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:45 PM

19. So it's a grossly flawed study - it doesn't include almost three-quarters of the data.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #19)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:47 PM

20. Then petition the FEC to require non-itemized contributions to require gender and more but

 

in the meantime this is what it is, a window on one segment of society women in suburbs itemized contributions.

and 17 million dollars isn't chump change.
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Response to Uncle Joe (Reply #20)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:58 PM

22. It's a window on a very small sampling of contributions....

 

...AND it's based on a very subjective interpretation of contributors' names.

It's not a question of FEC guidelines, it's a question of someone's subjective interpretation of available data. I seriously don't understand the rationale behind all of these attempts to skew the real facts to fit a narrative. It makes one wonder about the supporters' confidence behind the candidates' true viability.
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Response to George II (Reply #22)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 12:10 AM

26. You called it.

 

If it is repeated frequently enough some people may believe it.

I guess that there wasn't any other good news for the campaign to report on a Friday night.
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Response to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:49 PM

5. Thanks for posting... can't wait to hear all the reasons the naysayers will sposedly find fault.

 

That's how you know Bernie's winning!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:00 PM

8. There are no "reasons" other than this is based on undocumented "facts".

 

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 12:16 AM

27. Precisely

 

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Response to Uncle Joe (Reply #27)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 12:51 AM

28. Don't mind it though... it's an obvious sign of fear, which is understandable.

 


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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Response to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:51 PM

6. K n R

 

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Response to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:03 PM

9. K&R

 

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Response to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:20 PM

11. My God, women with patios and a barbecue love Bernie.

 

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Joe Biden

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Response to emmaverybo (Reply #11)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:27 PM

14. And we don't even know that they're women, this analysis is based on the first name of contributors!

 

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Response to emmaverybo (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 12:07 AM

24. I should think suburban women today are more concerned with childcare than casseroles

 

Such assumptions say so much
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Response to floppyboo (Reply #24)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 12:10 AM

25. and if he felt it was more expedient to publish his oatmeal cookie recipe by now, well ...

 

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Response to floppyboo (Reply #24)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 02:02 AM

33. Didn't say we just sit on the patio , but it is something we have in common, our bit of midcentury

 

history and heaven. Of course no oneís home to enjoy it. Nice for block parties.
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Response to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:20 PM

12. Not surprised.

 

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Response to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:27 PM

15. More fantastic news for Bernie!

 

Now, if they would just start showing polling #'s using 2018 turnout demographics, the news would be even better!
Here Comes Bernie!
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Response to floppyboo (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 12:52 AM

29. You know it!! And THEY know it!!

 


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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Response to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:57 PM

21. Bernie Sanders Dominates 2020 Presidential Field in Donations From Vermont Women

 

Who Live in Vacation Houses Purchased Along Lake Champlain With Proceeds from Inheritances


Whew! That was a tough headline to fix.
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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #21)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 12:05 AM

23. Nicely done!! Sometimes the truth is hilarious

 

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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #21)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 01:23 AM

30. Before you get too comfortable with that, remember Kentucky

 

It was the suburban women that won that back for the democrats.

I'm going to sound like a broken record here, but Stop using 2016 polling data for weighting demographic groups.
Post trump inauguration is going to be a hell of a lot different (results are in, btw) so insist of up to date polling, or loose again.
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Response to floppyboo (Reply #30)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 01:39 AM

32. What?

 

I didn't use any 2016 polling data as the basis for my reply.

I am ridiculing the use of emphasizing extremely targeted demographic groups to create a headline like the one in this OP which intend to make Bernie (or any other candidate) appear to be doing better than he actually is. Perhaps I should have narrowed it down using census tract information instead?

However, if you want to believe that winning a subset of a subset of a set is meaningful, then have at it since it is Friday night/Saturday morning.

I don't know if it applies specifically for this poll, but most major pollsters do make adjustments to their raw data to weight the demographics of their polls for factors such as age, education, economic groups, race, religion and sex. They will also weight that data to polling done in the past. Those pollsters tend to produce more reliable results than those who do not use such methodology which is why they remain in business.
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Response to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 01:29 AM

31. Why does it matter when Bloomberg can spend $100 million of his own money?

 

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