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Undecided 38%
Elizabeth Warren22%
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Kamala Harris8%

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 03:51 PM

 

RCP Average: Biden 28.3% Biden is clearly the front runner. It appears that Warren has declined

beginning in October (after the debates?) and continuing into November



Biden is leading in the RCP average in all states except Monmouth where he is tied. Great news for Joe...he is as I stated before clearly the front runner and will go on IMHO to be our nominee in 20...Trump will lose in a landslide!

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html
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Response to Demsrule86 (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 03:55 PM

1. But.. but.. but.. but..

 

that is not what they are telling me on the tv.. Its been over since last May.. and yet he leads in the polls.. it is driving them nuts.. If I see one more swoon on the fainting conch by a pundit, I am going to hurl..
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Response to Peacetrain (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 03:57 PM

3. Jinks you owe me a coke😀LOL

 

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Response to Peacetrain (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 03:57 PM

4. Yep some have even combined two candidates in order to make it appear Biden is failing!

 

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 03:59 PM

6. I saw that!

 

you have to admit.. that was creative... do I get to add Buttigieg and Klobuchar in my numbers
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Response to Peacetrain (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 04:02 PM

10. Very creative but they were 'mean' (kidding) and refused to allow us to combine all

 

other candidates...I would also just like to say again...there will be no brokered convention...Perez has opined it will be over by spring and I agree.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #10)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 05:39 PM

27. Agree. :) We can't go wrong betting against the election media.

 

Reminds me that back in the 1990s the late Cokie Roberts and her cable talking head group, when those things were new, apologized publicly and sincerely for being completely, shockingly wrong for about 3 elections.

Three was too many for everyone, though, so they moved to the now-traditional election-night pivot to total wisdom on whatever the new reality is. Each mentions some obscure remark dropped long before as CYA insurance, and before the next day is over all ante-election discussion is buried in the past of what is determinedly forgotten and not allowed to be regretted.

Politicians are hardly only ones corrupted by what it takes to keep their jobs in this environment.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #27)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 07:08 PM

38. Great Post

 


There should be a claim available for journalistic malpractice. It would also include actively doing everything you can to tear down a nominee (Gore, Hillary Clinton, and possibly Kerry).
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Response to DarthDem (Reply #38)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:41 PM

41. Hillary would be president today if not for some in the media.

 

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #27)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:12 PM

39. I had not heard the Cokie Roberts story...fascinating...and you are right...they will say they were

 

correct as Biden pulled it out or they said like you suggested xyz at some obscure time...
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Response to Demsrule86 (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 03:56 PM

2. But but the talking heads say

 

Joe’s campaign has collapsed
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Response to redstateblues (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 03:58 PM

5. Many candidates out there wish they had a campaign 'collapsing' in this manner...haha.

 

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 05:40 PM

55. I wish Bernie was at 28%

 

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Response to ritapria (Reply #55)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 08:37 PM

60. I think Bernie not Warren is in second place.

 

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Response to redstateblues (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 04:00 PM

7. Tag your it!!

 

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Response to Peacetrain (Reply #7)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 04:06 PM

14. Is it still too early? "They"say it's early

 

Also I have heard Biden is out of money.
But somehow that doesn’t seem to diminish his support.

Watch now as Warren is up, the money will start coming in for another primary candidate that can’t win. Just to keep “the horse race” alive.

Joe will consistently stay in the top.
Because he will beat trump

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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #14)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 06:32 PM

29. He will beat Trump

 

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Response to Demsrule86 (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 04:00 PM

8. The Economist shows things closer...

 

https://projects.economist.com/democratic-primaries-2020/
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Response to brooklynite (Reply #8)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 04:03 PM

11. this is an average and in these polls Biden leads...he also leads in the ecnomist...if you look at

 

the graph...Warren is trending downward.
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Response to brooklynite (Reply #8)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 05:33 PM

26. The current dynamic shows the downside to getting more attention.

 

Yes, people liked her on getting acquainted with her, we all like her, but then a few big details about a couple of her plans became better known.

The clue to electability isn't doing well when the media and RW mostly leave candidates alone, of course, but how they fare when they don't. In spite of Trump's nonsense, so far criticism has been pretty light and limited mostly to her big plans.
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Response to Hortensis (Reply #26)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 06:33 PM

30. Very true. And I think she has made some mistakes of late too.

 

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #30)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 06:52 PM

37. Imo, misjudging the wishes of most electoral groups is a mistake.

 

Only the brave and bold could try to ride a giant wave to great change they hope to create, but it looks like she got carried away by a rather extreme vision only a minority share.

I put it on Sanders. No one would have thought to join the right in passionate opposition to Obamacare if he hadn't lead them for his own reasons and, of course, if RW enemies of the ACA, including those controlling much of the MSM, hadn't made the most of what he was doing.
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Response to Hortensis (Reply #37)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:15 PM

40. I am totally pissed about this...Sanders and Warren to a lesser extent risks hurting or helping

 

destroy the ACA which is all we have or may ever have...millions of people depend on this. I went to Fox to watch them suffer after the election and heard a this...clearly they are trying to use M4A to destroy the ACA.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #40)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 07:28 AM

44. Absolutely to that last, but of course Elizabeth would

 

never want that. She's an ethical Democrat and not someone who'd regard America losing national healthcare altogether under the Republicans as self validation and proof of Democratic corruption. And of course wanting to build even bigger for itself is in a different universe from a desire to destroy the Obama admin's great achievement.

My feeling has always been that not strongly differentiating and distancing herself from Sanders would hurt her, and essentially embracing his MfA of course did not help.
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Response to Hortensis (Reply #44)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 10:41 AM

45. Regardless of her intent...the ACA is still being injured. I agree she would not do this on purpose.

 

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #45)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 11:24 AM

46. Have to agree. But they'll lose, as they should. Others

 

have too much sense to embark on such an unnecessarily very dangerous and delaying course. Sanders doesn't seem to believe the Republicans would be a problem if he just could get past our obstruction, but she knows they see MfA as a cornucopia of weapons and opportunities.
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Response to Hortensis (Reply #46)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 12:30 PM

47. I know.

 

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Response to Demsrule86 (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 04:01 PM

9. Nate agrees

 


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Response to Gothmog (Reply #9)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 04:05 PM

12. Thanks Gothmog...I appreciate that. I suggest everyone needs to look at this.

 

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #9)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 05:02 PM

22. Great tweet from Nate Silver... the expert at 538 weighs in!

 

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Fri Nov 8, 2019, 04:07 PM

15. Quite true and I don't find fault with you analysis...I would simply point out that in all cases

 

Biden still leads...despite near constant attacks.
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Fri Nov 8, 2019, 04:18 PM

17. Warren has lost some ground since the last debate I think...and perhaps the MFA issues...

 

so I am not sure we can expect her numbers to rise in all states as she campaigns...some no doubt. But I expect Biden's numbers to rise in the same manner.
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Fri Nov 8, 2019, 04:29 PM

19. Time will tell.

 

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #17)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 05:09 PM

24. Her M4All plan is likely the culprit.

 

I've yet to read a positive piece about it and for good reason. It's too much change too quickly and no one knows how changing 20% of the economy will turn out.

I'm hoping she sets it aside and goes for building on Obamacare.
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Response to kstewart33 (Reply #24)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 06:34 PM

32. The messaging was... late to the party in my opinion.

 

I like it, but this should have been clear a long time ago.

It's a complex issue, and complex issues need a LOT of messaging runway in the United States. Especially when facts are involved.
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Response to kstewart33 (Reply #24)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 06:35 PM

33. I have not either...and I don't get why she doubles down on it...now I don't know if she could

 

walk it back.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #15)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 04:34 PM

20. "near constant attacks"

 

everyone feels this way about their candidate. It's called confirmation bias.
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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #20)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 05:26 PM

25. and what's disconcerting is

 

they ain't seen NOTHING yet
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Response to Skittles (Reply #25)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 06:33 PM

31. Right?

 

Whoever the nominee is, needs to be made out of the same shit the re-entry tiles on the Space Shuttle were made with.

It's going to be insane. It's going to be overwhelming. It'll be relentless. It'll be ridiculous. It'll be mostly outright lies.
And with Trump's base and a good chunk of the middle... it'll be effective. We have to successfully weather what Hillary endured last time, PLUS MORE, and also flip electoral votes.

There's some early positive indications, but the general is a long way off, and shit can change in a hurry.
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Response to Skittles (Reply #25)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 06:37 PM

35. I don't agree...the fat orange shit face has gone all out...with ads already against Biden and yet

 

he continues as the front runner.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #35)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 11:04 AM

64. Wait, you actually think that's 'all out'?

 

I suggest you start building a fallout shelter for the General Election.
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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #64)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 12:00 PM

65. I suggest you do the same should your candidate mostly unvetted be our nominee...I will vote blue no

 

matter who...but Biden has faced scathing attacks from the media, pollsters and supporters of other candidates...I submit Warren has faced very little shit. And despite it all, Biden is still the front runner. As he is very well known he can face anything the GOP has and still win.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #65)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 12:29 PM

66. Oh I have.

 

I fully expect the unrelenting torrent of mostly false shit, that will be inbound, whether it's Biden or Warren.

Please just keep in mind, what we've already seen that you feel is scathing, is NOTHING compared to what is coming. That's all. I'm within you on the ticket though, even if my favored candidate isn't on it.
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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #20)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 06:36 PM

34. Biden has been attacked starting with Flores and Anita...and how he is failing constantly.

 

He is the front runner so I suppose that is to be expected.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 05:05 PM

23. Time will tell.

 

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Response to Demsrule86 (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 05:40 PM

28. pretty depressing. so it goes.

 

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Response to Kurt V. (Reply #28)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 06:40 PM

36. I don't know. I hope we have a candidate who can win...and that is the most important thing...

 

the would be orange dictator must be defeated.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Original post)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 12:41 AM

42. Joe keeps on keeping on.

 

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Response to oasis (Reply #42)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 02:23 AM

43. Yes he does.

 

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Response to Demsrule86 (Original post)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 06:34 PM

48. True for national polls

 

Correct.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 04:06 PM

49. Here is a good observation from Nate

 


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Response to Demsrule86 (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 05:06 PM

50. Looks like Bernie is surging at Warren's expense.

 

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Sun Nov 10, 2019, 05:15 PM

51. Joe consistently leads because he's the most qualified both nationally and globally.

 

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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #51)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 05:24 PM

52. I agree

 

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #52)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 06:49 PM

57. I no longer support Joe. He has proven himself to be unelectable -n/t

 

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Response to NewsCenter28 (Reply #57)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 08:33 PM

58. I know being the front runner is so disqualifying.

 

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #58)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 10:18 PM

62. Yes and having the most experience will kill a guy.

 

Also the that liked by everyone thing is such a losing position.

Sarcasm thingie “X” here.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 05:38 PM

53. Now it's Buttigieg's time to 'surge' for a while.

 

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Response to empedocles (Reply #53)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 05:40 PM

54. !!

 

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Response to empedocles (Reply #53)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 08:34 PM

59. Well clearly someone has to surge to support the narrative...Biden is doomed...

 

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Response to Demsrule86 (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 06:45 PM

56. KICK!

 

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Response to Demsrule86 (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 09:32 PM

61. K&R n/t

 

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Response to Demsrule86 (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 11:18 PM

63. Warren...

 

Isn't a very good politician. She underperforms even in deep blue Massachusetts and her plans don't stand up to scrutiny. Then, when someone has the nerve to point this out, she goes on a rant about how they're just republicans in disguise. She just puts off this vibe like she thinks she's always the smartest person in the room and nobody should ever question her.

That's what happens when you spend decades in the ivory tower.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Original post)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 01:42 PM

67. Joe Biden is the most electable candidate that the Democratic Party has available

 


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