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Bernie Sanders Rises in Polls Connects With Black Voters (Original Post) Uncle Joe Nov 2019 OP
K&R CentralMass Nov 2019 #1
Thanks no. sheshe2 Nov 2019 #2
He's got at least three high-level staffers who proudly voted for Jill Stein... George II Nov 2019 #6
I can't connect with people who vote green party OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #3
+++ sheshe2 Nov 2019 #37
Bernie drew 10, 140 people to tonight's rally in Minneapolis ritapria Nov 2019 #4
That is wonderful! sheshe2 Nov 2019 #5
A few weeks ago he drew a virtually all-white crowd at a school that is 83% black. And then.... George II Nov 2019 #7
I did not listen to the video. sheshe2 Nov 2019 #8
If "Sanders Rises in Polls Connects With Black Voters" and it's according to Ms. Gray.... George II Nov 2019 #10
Not connecting or rising. sheshe2 Nov 2019 #13
10,140 POC? Wow! That is amazing! redstateblues Nov 2019 #11
Lol sheshe2 Nov 2019 #14
Here's a photo and video of him connecting with blacks at that rally: George II Nov 2019 #16
I think I located a couple of black folks in the larger photo The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #27
I just viewed Bernie's Speech on Donkees link and one my favorite parts out of many Uncle Joe Nov 2019 #15
+1 myohmy2 Nov 2019 #23
Me TOO! sheshe2 Nov 2019 #42
I read that recently when asked specific questions pertaining to black communities' concerns emmaverybo Nov 2019 #9
Well we saw him at "She The People" back in the spring..... George II Nov 2019 #12
Bernie was the top polling candidate ritapria Nov 2019 #17
That's where he was asked about childcare and talked healthcare for two and a half minutes emmaverybo Nov 2019 #18
Yes, that forum. I didn't see the video but heard about it - did someone explain the difference? George II Nov 2019 #20
Bernie misheard the question and still got several rounds of applause while Uncle Joe Nov 2019 #22
He "misheard" the question? George II Nov 2019 #25
I thought my statement was clear, did you misread it? Uncle Joe Nov 2019 #26
Your statement was clear, but it was incorrect.... George II Nov 2019 #29
Obviously you're not hard of hearing, look at Bernie's body language, Uncle Joe Nov 2019 #30
That's his usual posture. Watch him walking around the stage, same posture, nothing different.... George II Nov 2019 #34
No, if you view the video on your link you can see him visibly lean forward as Uncle Joe Nov 2019 #35
That's what he ALWAYS does. I can see this is going nowhere...good night. George II Nov 2019 #38
Happened at "She" too. They had to,kinda translate it for him. Could be hearing aid time. Seriously, emmaverybo Nov 2019 #28
Why doesn't Bernie get a hearing aid? TexasTowelie Nov 2019 #32
I believe he will but hearing loss can sneak up on you. I'm hard of hearing as well Uncle Joe Nov 2019 #33
So Bernie is ignoring the obvious? TexasTowelie Nov 2019 #40
Did you not read my final sentence? Uncle Joe Nov 2019 #41
Considering that one of the doubts about Bernie this primary has been about his age, TexasTowelie Nov 2019 #43
The moderator in this case was reading face down so Bernie couldn't see his lips. Uncle Joe Nov 2019 #44
I don't share your confidence. TexasTowelie Nov 2019 #45
Well everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I suppose time will be the judge. Uncle Joe Nov 2019 #46
Because he doesn't need one. George II Nov 2019 #39
What poll was that, I didn't see it. George II Nov 2019 #19
He is barely mentioned here at The Des Moines Register. sheshe2 Nov 2019 #24
Thanks for posting this sheshe2. Booker is soooo right, Sad it even has to be said. Kamala emmaverybo Nov 2019 #31
I wish they were polling better. sheshe2 Nov 2019 #36
Link? sheshe2 Nov 2019 #21
 

sheshe2

(83,715 posts)
2. Thanks no.
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 09:37 PM
Nov 2019
National Press Secretary for the 2020 Bernie Sanders campaign, Brianna Joy Gray joins Politics Nation.


I do know that she has proudly said she voted for Stein 2016. Therefore I am not interested in what she has to say. She was a third party voter.


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George II

(67,782 posts)
6. He's got at least three high-level staffers who proudly voted for Jill Stein...
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 10:06 PM
Nov 2019

...Gray, Turner (National Campaign Co-chair), and Sirota (Campaign Speechwriter).

BTW, Ms. Gray, I don't "feel free to hear" your explanation - a vote for Stein and not for Clinton is explanation enough for me.

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OldRed2450

(710 posts)
3. I can't connect with people who vote green party
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 09:53 PM
Nov 2019

They're not democrats.

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ritapria

(1,812 posts)
4. Bernie drew 10, 140 people to tonight's rally in Minneapolis
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 09:57 PM
Nov 2019
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sheshe2

(83,715 posts)
5. That is wonderful!
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 10:05 PM
Nov 2019

Yet Joe's post is about him rising among blacks. How many were black?

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George II

(67,782 posts)
7. A few weeks ago he drew a virtually all-white crowd at a school that is 83% black. And then....
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 10:07 PM
Nov 2019

.....there's that rally in Queens.

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sheshe2

(83,715 posts)
8. I did not listen to the video.
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 10:25 PM
Nov 2019

Hard for me to hear some things. However it is Bri Bri talking and she vote third party. Her words mean nothing to me. I have no use for her.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
10. If "Sanders Rises in Polls Connects With Black Voters" and it's according to Ms. Gray....
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 10:32 PM
Nov 2019

....I can't give that video credibility. And as we've both pointed out, he gets almost all-white crowds at his rallies even when they're in black neighborhoods and black schools.

I don't call that "connecting" with black voters. Ms. Gray certainly isn't an objective observer.

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sheshe2

(83,715 posts)
13. Not connecting or rising.
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 10:40 PM
Nov 2019

Nada.

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redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
11. 10,140 POC? Wow! That is amazing!
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 10:36 PM
Nov 2019
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George II

(67,782 posts)
16. Here's a photo and video of him connecting with blacks at that rally:
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 10:51 PM
Nov 2019
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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,659 posts)
27. I think I located a couple of black folks in the larger photo
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:10 AM
Nov 2019

though I'm not sure. But Minneapolis is only about 20% black and 11% other PoC.

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Uncle Joe

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15. I just viewed Bernie's Speech on Donkees link and one my favorite parts out of many
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 10:47 PM
Nov 2019

Last edited Mon Nov 4, 2019, 07:23 AM - Edit history (1)

that he spoke about was how Trump thrives on hate, loves to divide our nation by the color of their skin, religion, sexual orientation, land of origin etc. and then asked the audience to look around at other people that didn't look like them and asked if they were willing to fight for those people as much as they would fight for themselves!?

It brought the house down!

Trump is a scumbag there is no doubt about that, he thrives on division, I'm just thankful Democrats aren't like him.

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sheshe2

(83,715 posts)
42. Me TOO!
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:33 AM
Nov 2019
Trump is a scumbag there is no doubt about that, he thrives on division, I'm just thankful Democrats aren't like him.

He thrives on division. I am so grateful that Democrats do not.
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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
9. I read that recently when asked specific questions pertaining to black communities' concerns
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 10:31 PM
Nov 2019

he launched into a speech about M4All. Please.

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George II

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12. Well we saw him at "She The People" back in the spring.....
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 10:39 PM
Nov 2019

Asked what he'd do about the rise of white supremacists as President, he went on about being "at the March on Washington "WITH" Dr. King in 1963".

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ritapria

(1,812 posts)
17. Bernie was the top polling candidate
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 11:20 PM
Nov 2019

at the NAACP forum held in Des Moines Yesterday

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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
18. That's where he was asked about childcare and talked healthcare for two and a half minutes
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 11:30 PM
Nov 2019

in response. OK. It happens.

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George II

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20. Yes, that forum. I didn't see the video but heard about it - did someone explain the difference?
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 11:35 PM
Nov 2019
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Uncle Joe

(58,338 posts)
22. Bernie misheard the question and still got several rounds of applause while
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 11:44 PM
Nov 2019

talking about health care.

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George II

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25. He "misheard" the question?
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:02 AM
Nov 2019
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Uncle Joe

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26. I thought my statement was clear, did you misread it?
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:03 AM
Nov 2019
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George II

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29. Your statement was clear, but it was incorrect....
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:11 AM
Nov 2019

He was standing 3 feet from the questioner and was looking straight at him. Here's the video, he didn't "mishear" the question.

https://www.mediaite.com/news/painful-bernie-sanders-mistakenly-answers-the-wrong-question-for-2-and-a-half-minutes-at-naacp-forum/

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Uncle Joe

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30. Obviously you're not hard of hearing, look at Bernie's body language,
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:15 AM
Nov 2019

he's leaning forward.

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George II

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34. That's his usual posture. Watch him walking around the stage, same posture, nothing different....
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:20 AM
Nov 2019

You're stretching. Some examples:




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Uncle Joe

(58,338 posts)
35. No, if you view the video on your link you can see him visibly lean forward as
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:21 AM
Nov 2019

the moderator was reading.

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George II

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38. That's what he ALWAYS does. I can see this is going nowhere...good night.
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:29 AM
Nov 2019
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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
28. Happened at "She" too. They had to,kinda translate it for him. Could be hearing aid time. Seriously,
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:11 AM
Nov 2019

I also read he got big applause at the NAACP event.

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TexasTowelie

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32. Why doesn't Bernie get a hearing aid?
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:16 AM
Nov 2019

Is it a matter of vanity or ego? It's not like Bernie doesn't have the money to get a hearing aid.

I recall at least two public appearances (the Fox town hall and one of the debates) where he has cupped his hand behind his ear because he couldn't hear the question.

I guess that having hearing problems might provide a convenient excuse for Bernie when he feels like he needs it. I wouldn't want to go out in the cold Vermont winters to take out the trash after all.

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Uncle Joe

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33. I believe he will but hearing loss can sneak up on you. I'm hard of hearing as well
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:20 AM
Nov 2019

I bought hearing aids five or six years ago, but becoming consciously aware of it took me a few years.

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TexasTowelie

(112,070 posts)
40. So Bernie is ignoring the obvious?
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:29 AM
Nov 2019

That isn't a trait that I look for when I'm trying to decide which candidates to support.

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Uncle Joe

(58,338 posts)
41. Did you not read my final sentence?
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:31 AM
Nov 2019


I bought hearing aids five or six years ago, but becoming consciously aware of it took me a few years.



Hearing loss can be very subtle and sometimes it takes time in becoming aware of it.
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TexasTowelie

(112,070 posts)
43. Considering that one of the doubts about Bernie this primary has been about his age,
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 01:03 AM
Nov 2019

I'm surprised that he hasn't reviewed the video and noted that he appears old as he cups his hand behind his ear. Surely, someone in his campaign has raised that issue with Bernie? As an outside observer I noticed Bernie's hearing problems this primary season, so there really aren't any subtleties to miss. And even if Bernie is oblivious to his own hearing problems, then why isn't Jane saying something about it to Bernie?

I've noted my diminishing hearing and I'm only 54. I can still hear a wide range of beeps when I take the hearing test. I can still hear all of the musical instruments when I listen to a band or orchestra. Most of my hearing difficulties are because people aren't pronouncing their words well, they are facing a different direction from me while speaking, or they are trying to speak over a running dishwasher or a fan motor.

One of the vital skills of a diplomat is to be able to listen to others. Any candidate that is incapable of doing so moves down my list of people that I will vote for since there will be others that are capable of exercising those skills.

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Uncle Joe

(58,338 posts)
44. The moderator in this case was reading face down so Bernie couldn't see his lips.
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 01:26 AM
Nov 2019

I believe Bernie's hearing loss may just be beginning and even people that hear well sometimes cup their ears particularly in a noisy environment so it can be very subtle.

It may not be so acute that he has a problem hearing Jane or someone else at home.

As I stated before I believe Bernie will realize it and get hearing aids.

I have total confidence in his abilities as a President.


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TexasTowelie

(112,070 posts)
45. I don't share your confidence.
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 01:33 AM
Nov 2019

In the meantime, Bernie should watch the tapes of his appearances and be objective as to how others may view him.

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Uncle Joe

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46. Well everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I suppose time will be the judge.
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 01:37 AM
Nov 2019

Peace to you TexasTowelie.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
39. Because he doesn't need one.
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:29 AM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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George II

(67,782 posts)
19. What poll was that, I didn't see it.
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 11:32 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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sheshe2

(83,715 posts)
24. He is barely mentioned here at The Des Moines Register.
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 11:57 PM
Nov 2019
'This isn't a black issue; it's an American issue:' Democratic presidential candidates pitch economic equality at NAACP forum

snip

For black parents, like his, having to have conversations about traffic laws and police interactions is a problem for the country, not just a specific community, he said. It was a theme he'd repeat often during his time at a Saturday forum hosted by the Des Moines branch of the NAACP, KCCI-TV and the Des Moines Register. Booker was one of 11 candidates to speak at the event.

"This isn't a black issue," Booker said. "It's an American issue."

snip

The forum was centered around economic equality. Some candidates focused questions to their signature policies — entrepreneur Andrew Yang spoke of his plan to give every adult $1,000 a month, and U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont repeated his long-standing belief that "economic rights are human rights."

"If you're sick and you can't go to the doctor, you're not free," Sanders said, building on a quote from Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. about a solid economic foundation being necessary to true freedom. "If you can't afford an education, you're not free."

The candidates made their best pitches for addressing the range of issues that disproportionately affect African American citizens and other people of color. They spoke about the criminal justice system, education access, wage inequality and access to business capital.



https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2019/11/02/cory-booker-bernie-sanders-kamala-harris-democratic-presidential-candidates-naacp-forum-issues/4098016002/
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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
31. Thanks for posting this sheshe2. Booker is soooo right, Sad it even has to be said. Kamala
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:15 AM
Nov 2019

said the same in different words.

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sheshe2

(83,715 posts)
36. I wish they were polling better.
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 12:25 AM
Nov 2019

Good to know they qualify for the debates. Love them both.

It is the times I think. We have reached critical mass and people are frightened. Some reach for the ones they know and some the polling data, who can beat trump. Some reach for the pie in the sky and that may cause us all irrevocable damage.

We shall see.

Thanks emmaverybo

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