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Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:07 PM

 

Tweet from Bernie Sanders this morning:


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Response to George II (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:11 PM

1. LOL

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Response to George II (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:11 PM

2. That's pretty sad on a number of levels

 

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Response to George II (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:12 PM

3. Honestly,

 

personality cults don't do much for me
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Response to George II (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:16 PM

4. The quote is kinda sad, but

 

Senator Sanders choosing to use it in a tweet is just . . .

Damn, I'm at a loss for proper descriptors - I just keep coming back to effed up
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Response to George II (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:20 PM

5. Of all the tweets he could have picked...

 

"It wasn’t until I heard of a man by the name of Bernie Sanders that I began to question and assert and recognize my inherent value as a human being."
-Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez


I, for one, never questioned AOC's inherent value as a human being. And I am not about to question it even after I read this.

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Response to beastie boy (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:31 PM

7. I sure as heck never questioned my inherent value as a human being.

 

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Response to George II (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:27 PM

6. Really?

 

How sad.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:31 PM

8. Are we attacking Bernie, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, or both of them?

 

She said it, so that was bad on her part?
He quoted what she said, so that makes him a bad person?
I need to know who to hate here.
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Undecided

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:40 PM

11. Answer: All of the above.

 

The crew is out in force on this one.
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primary today, I would vote for:
Bernie Sanders

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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #11)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 03:15 PM

18. And as usual the response is "you see that as an attack?"

 

lulzd.

Swimming in the primary pool is a bit dodgy. Never know what those floating objects are.
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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #18)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:00 PM

61. Those floating objects?

 

We all know the floating objects that you are referring to. I find it sad that you would call fellow members on DU that you disagree with ****. That is EXACTLY what you did.
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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #18)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 07:02 PM

101. I identified the most prominent of those "floating objects" you are referring to - take a look.

 





You're welcome!

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #101)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 07:23 PM

106. ..

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #101)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 07:46 PM

109. OMG!

 

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primary today, I would vote for:
Elizabeth Warren

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #18)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 09:18 PM

111. It's on the campaign's twitter account.

 

I would assume they're happy to share it far and wide.
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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #18)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:40 PM

117. And as usual "you see that as an attack"? lulzd.

 

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Joe Biden

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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #11)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 05:26 PM

47. "The Crew?"

 

Care to clarify?
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Elizabeth Warren

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #47)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 08:00 AM

134. Why would someone?

 

Doing so gets you a hide.
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Elizabeth Warren

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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #11)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 09:34 PM

112. First we had the squad.

 

Now we have the crew.

I wonder if we'll get any other cute names to marginalize Democrats?
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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #112)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:14 PM

113. Snap.

 

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Elizabeth Warren

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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #112)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 09:34 AM

138. +1000. (nt)

 

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Elizabeth Warren

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:46 PM

14. I reserve the word "hate" to gun nuts and Jesus freaks

 

How about getting bewildered by a leading candidte's choices?
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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:53 PM

15. Attacking no in particular, simply pointing out self-aggrandizing actions.

 

(try deciding who to hate or not on your own rather than asking for instruction...as that's not really a collective decision, but rather a personal one)
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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 03:03 PM

16. You see posting his own tweet as an "attack"?

 

Moooost interesting.
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Response to Amimnoch (Reply #16)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 03:45 PM

24. When it's life-affirming, utter devotion

 

Anything else seems like hate. Cult of personality at work.
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Response to kcr (Reply #24)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 03:59 PM

28. True.

 

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 03:23 PM

19. How is Sanders quoting AOC an "attack" on either? It's his tweet, it's her statement.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #19)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 03:40 PM

22. lulzd

 

So do you support John Conyers last version of his medicare for all bill?
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Undecided

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #22)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 03:44 PM

23. lulzd

 

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #22)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 05:12 PM

43. Whataboutery anyone?

 

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #22)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 05:51 PM

59. What's the relevance of that?

 

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Response to George II (Reply #59)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:13 PM

66. You know the answer to that

 

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Response to melman (Reply #66)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:19 PM

70. No I don't. I don't read minds.

 

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 05:00 PM

37. Straw man much? (nt)

 

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Elizabeth Warren

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 05:04 PM

41. There doesn't seem to be an "attack" inherent in the OP

 

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #41)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 05:40 PM

52. Right it's a call and response thing.

 

That way the op gets to play the “innocent lil me” card.
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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #52)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:12 PM

65. Nobody is doing that.

 

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #52)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:39 PM

88. Lulz

 

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #8)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 07:53 AM

132. Decide for yourself.

 

But it just confirms what a lot of folks already know.

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Undecided

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Response to George II (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:37 PM

9. Jesus help us all

 

The chosen ones scare me.
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Response to nini (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 05:51 PM

58. lol

 

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Response to George II (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:38 PM

10. ...

 

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Joe Biden

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Response to George II (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:43 PM

12. is bernie the new messiah now? nt

 

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Response to George II (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:44 PM

13. Oh good god! That quote could be the opening line of a Tammy Wynette or Patsy Cline song!

 

Is she serious? Oh good god! That quote could be the opening line of a Tammy Wynette or Patsy Cline song! From way back in the day when women had no value and were treated as chattel... property of men... basing their own worth and self esteem on whether another man recognized them. Oh, I know what I'm talking about... I grew up in part of that era. All I'm saying is that I just find it terribly sad that in this day and age, she feels that way (or recently felt that way).





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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #13)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 04:14 PM

29. hahahahha

 

Perfect!!!!


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Response to nini (Reply #29)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:13 PM

67. Thank you!

 

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Response to George II (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 03:10 PM

17. Jackie Speier

 

Probably never imagined seeing this again.
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Response to George II (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 03:25 PM

20. Arggh

 

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Response to George II (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 03:36 PM

21. Come one, come all, lets have some more pile on.

 

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Bernie Sanders

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Response to George II (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 03:45 PM

25. I totally get this and I don't understand why it's controversial

 

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Andrew Yang

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Response to redqueen (Reply #25)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 03:56 PM

27. She says she never recognized her inherent value as a human being until a man came along,

 

and it was a politician at that.

If you don't see that as disturbing, I don't know what to tell you.
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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Reply #27)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 04:25 PM

31. Sad commentary on the esteem she held for her own father.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #31)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 04:26 PM

32. That was my thought as well; if true, her parents clearly failed her completely.

 

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Reply #32)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 04:54 PM

35. Yes. I honestly believe you're on the right track.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #31)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 05:33 PM

49. Indeed - I just have to wonder how her mother felt hearing this. (nt)

 

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #49)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 05:46 PM

56. That's a good question.

 

If her statement was heartfelt and truthful, then that's truly sad. If it was a cynical ploy to flatter BS with meaningless platitudes, then it's disturbing. And, as I said elsewhere, the fact that BS didn't also see it as being disturbing (and that he saw it as a flattering statement) really reveals much. And, trust me on this, it's not as flattering as he seems to think it is.
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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Reply #27)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 11:28 AM

144. Yeah, that's a pretty fucking disturbing statement.

 

No one on the side of feminism and equality is going to be defending that shit.
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Response to George II (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 03:48 PM

26. Oh my.

 

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Response to George II (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 04:15 PM

30. name

 

Well, I never had a true orgasm until I heard Bernie's name.
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Response to enid602 (Reply #30)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 05:02 PM

39. You owe me a new keyboard...

 

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Response to enid602 (Reply #30)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:11 PM

64. Bless you child.

 

You are cured. Now cancer free...orgasms do that.
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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #64)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:21 PM

73. .....

 

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #64)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:39 PM

87. omg!

 


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Response to Cha (Reply #87)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:48 PM

92. THIS

 

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #92)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:57 PM

100. IKR!

 

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #64)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 11:29 AM

145. O.M.G.

 

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Response to George II (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 04:32 PM

33. Just hearing his name? Wow! He's more powerful than Miracle Water, My Pillow, and The Blue Dot

 

combined.
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Response to emmaverybo (Reply #33)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 04:47 PM

34. Reminiscent of Harold Hill.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #34)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 05:02 PM

40. Yes, my friends, we've got trouble!

 

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #40)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 05:38 PM

51. ALL I care about is NO 3rd party runs...stay tuned

 

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Response to George II (Reply #34)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 07:21 PM

104. LOL 😂

 

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Response to George II (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 04:56 PM

36. Even after all that college achievement and outreach for a prestigious org?

 

She didn't "question and assert and recognize [her] inherent value as a human being," until after she "heard of" Bernie?

Wow. On so many levels.

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #36)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 05:01 PM

38. It's bad enough that she feels that way in this day and age... BUT...

 

It's bad enough that she feels that way in this day and age... BUT... I think it's even worse that BS chose that particular sentiment as something that he wants to tweet about and promote.

The fact that he sees nothing wrong with it is a strong indicator of how he views himself, and perhaps even, how he views women in general.

All I'm trying to say is, there are probably a half-dozen of other things she's said that would ACTUALLY be flattering (and inspirational) but he chose THAT? I'm sorry, that's just wrong. And sad.

People may have varying opinions, and that one is mine.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #38)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 05:10 PM

42. I agree. (nt)

 

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #42)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 05:20 PM

44. Listen, sister... I lived that shit. My first husband's attitude...

 

Listen, sister... I lived that shit. My first husband's attitude was that "I'm nothing without him" and "I'm lucky that he'd even have me" and that I shouldn't even think about leaving because "nobody would have me" ... and if he hit me, then it's my fault and I should just watch what I say and do and talk to and smile at.

I tell ya, I know exactly what it's like to believe that my worth was tied to the opinion of a man... and even in fear, I was always seeking approval. Bruise after bruise broken bone after cut after black eye... he beat the shit out of me.

I escaped, I'm a survivor. But I know now that there are certain types of men who ACTIVELY SEEK OUT women with low self esteem... there are men whose EGOS depend on being able to control women the same way that I was controlled, and mentally and physically abused.

Never again! Generally speaking, I can spot abused women a mile away! I know them. I see them. I used to BE one of them. And even if they're not currently in an abusive or controlling situation, I know the type that soon will be. And I know the type of men that seek them out.

All I'm saying is that it's just sad when any woman needs a man (any man) to see her own value as a human being.
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #44)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 05:20 PM

45. Exactly.... (nt)

 

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #44)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:30 PM

78. Jackie...

 



Thank you for sharing that. You crystallized my instinctive recoil when I read that tweet.

You are a survivor; more, you are a badass!
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Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:34 PM

81. ...

 

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Response to mcar (Reply #78)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:46 PM

90. It was a lifetime ago...

 

... No kids with him, thankfully... so it was a "clean break" without any "ties that bind". He's now dead.

That's when my fear stopped. Even though he lived 500 miles away, twenty years later, I still feared answering the phone or opening the door... just because. When I heard he died... months after the fact... my fears vanished. The clouds parted and a weight had been lifted. I could BREATHE again! (It sounds stupid when I say it out loud, but that's the only way I can describe it. Even though we were apart, he still haunted me... I still feared him for YEARS!!!)

You are a survivor; more, you are a badass!
Thanks. I'm mostly just a foul-mouthed and opinionated. But I'll never again be a victim. I'll never again seek a sense of self-worth from any man.

Not only can I spot women who are abused (or likely to be) I can spot men who are likely to abuse them. It's like a protective "sixth sense". It's hard to describe, but I know it when I see it.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #90)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 07:08 PM

102. I'm glad you got away

 

and I can only imagine the sense of relief, even after all those years.

No woman should be a victim. We need to teach our girls better.

True story (and much less serious): My SIL had a daughter after 2 sons. She was an absolute princess - always wanting to wear dresses, did dance classes for years, just a sparkly, bright princess.

One day, when my niece was about 8, my SIL asked her: is it better to be smart or pretty? Niece said, "pretty." SIL said to me, "I don't know how this happened, but I'm going to fix it.

Next year when we visited, niece's room had all kinds of posters about reading and science and math on the walls. She kept up with dance, but in HS, dropped it to play field hockey and lacrosse. She went to a technical college on academic and sports scholarships, got a great engineering job right out of college and just got her masters degree.

She's now 28. We just got the save the date card today for her wedding next year. She's a strong, smart, confident, and yes, very pretty, woman.
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Response to mcar (Reply #102)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 05:55 AM

130. Thank you... and thanks for sharing your SIL's story.

 

Very inspirational.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #44)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:46 PM

91. You.

 

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #38)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 01:20 AM

129. I agree.

 

I think that she said it to kiss ass. It doesn't seem authentic, and normally, I admire her authenticity.
He is just plain self aggrandizing in this case. If he believed in his ideals and wasn't so full of himself, he would clearly see that Warren is much better suited for the presidency than he is. He just had a heart attack for heaven sake!
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Response to ehrnst (Reply #36)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 05:29 PM

48. Yes. In fact she even interned for Ted Kennedy:

 

During college, Ocasio-Cortez served as an intern for U.S. Senator Ted Kennedy, in his section on foreign affairs and immigration issues.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria_Ocasio-Cortez
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Response to ehrnst (Reply #36)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 05:40 PM

53. I can't even.

 

This way beyond bizarre.
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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #53)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:10 PM

62. What's also bizarre is that BS saw this as being flattering.

 

I assure you, it's NOT flattering. Any man who wants to take credit for making a woman feel "worthy" or having value... well I share your opinion on that... it's frightening... I can't even.





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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #62)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:19 PM

71. You got that right.. SMDH!

 

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #62)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:20 PM

72. Bingo!

 

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #62)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:43 PM

119. Good men would never want a women to feel that about them.

 

NEVER!
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Response to George II (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 05:22 PM

46. And she seems so self-confident here:

 

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Response to George II (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 05:35 PM

50. She interned for Ted Kennedy and didn't notice he'd been saying health care is a human right

 

for many decades? Didn't notice that Democrats are the party of equality, health care, housing, education and a living wage?

Right.
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Response to betsuni (Reply #50)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 05:41 PM

54. IKR? And she doesn't know that Ted and HRC are responsible for CHIP?

 

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Response to betsuni (Reply #50)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 05:45 PM

55. Yeah, good point, betsuni.. someone

 

should ask her about that in a Tweet!
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Response to Cha (Reply #55)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:39 PM

86. It just doesn't seem ... um ... authentic.

 

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Response to betsuni (Reply #86)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:42 PM

89. "For the rest of us.."

 



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Response to George II (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 05:48 PM

57. K&R pretty powerful and this represents many young ppls feelings of sanders message.

 

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Response to Kurt V. (Reply #57)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 05:54 PM

60. You mean young women of color?

 

I can't imagine young straight white men would feel this way until they heard of Bernie Sanders?.
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Response to ehrnst (Reply #60)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:34 PM

80. i talk to young white men every day in a county that will go trump in 2020.

 

i didn't say *sanders name* , i said *sanders message* . they are not monolithic and they know what's what.
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Response to Kurt V. (Reply #80)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:36 PM

83. But did they lack self-esteem until they heard Bernie's message? (nt)

 

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #83)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:50 PM

94. these young white men i talk to are just trying to figure out the world and what the future means

 

for their families. they don't lack self esteem what they lack is confidence in business as usual concerning climate change and a rigged economy for their babies. thus their own power (i.e worth)
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Response to Kurt V. (Reply #94)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 07:36 PM

107. But that's not what AOC was talking about.

 

"It wasn’t until I heard of a man by the name of Bernie Sanders that I began to question and assert and recognize my inherent value as a human being."

She's talking about something totally different that I'm pretty sure those young men, especially the straight white ones, didn't experience.
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Response to ehrnst (Reply #107)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 07:11 AM

131. yeah. i kinda went off on a tangent there. lol. Sorry,

 

but these young liberal men in the middle or trump country are very inspiring.
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Response to Kurt V. (Reply #57)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 07:12 PM

103. Wait...what? "Many young people" began to question and assert and recognize their inherent value

 

as human beings when they first heard a politician's name?

Are they also children [who] relied on CHIP?

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #103)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 07:21 PM

105. a politicians name represents their message. his message is resonating among young ppl.

 

i prefer warren but the message of sanders shouldn't be overlooked
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Thu Oct 31, 2019, 07:36 PM

108. She could have said "message". She said "name". N/T

 


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Fri Nov 1, 2019, 03:27 PM

149. "the *moment I heard* of a man named Bernie Sanders." (nt)

 

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #103)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 04:36 PM

150. Interesting that she never mentions being on SCHIP or CHIP in this interview about poverty

 

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/25/763793482/rep-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-wants-america-to-talk-about-poverty
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Response to George II (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:11 PM

63. If Joe had posted something like this

 

Just imagine the outrage!
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Response to redstateblues (Reply #63)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:15 PM

68. +1000. (nt)

 

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Response to redstateblues (Reply #63)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:17 PM

69. Right! The twitter responses aren't too

 

favorable, either, for this one.
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Response to Cha (Reply #69)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:22 PM

74. .....

 

among them:

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #74)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:28 PM

77. TOO BAD AOC doesn't know that.

 

Excellent tweet, ehrnst.. Thank you for posting!

Do you have the non screen shot tweet of that so I can tweet on it?

Mahalo!
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Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:38 PM

84. Here you go:

 


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Response to ehrnst (Reply #84)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:51 PM

95. Mahalo, ehrnst! Is this true?!

 



Retweeted!

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Response to Cha (Reply #95)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:55 PM

98. Right there in the video. And odd that she didn't mention Ted Kennedy who worked for single payer

 

long before she was born, and along with HRC, he got that CHIP she's talking about into existence.

And she interned for Ted Kennedy?

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #98)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:35 PM

115. They have their narratives and

 

they're sticking to them.

It's up to us to sort it out.

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Response to Cha (Reply #95)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:29 PM

114. Heard this before. Don't worry, it's a lie.

 




Bernie voted for CHIP.

Bernie did vote against part of the budget CHIP was attached to, because we had control of the WH, House AND Senate anyway. It was a performative vote to signal that it wasn't enough when Democrats had the chance to finally implement single payer and didn't.

I believed Hillary was just forced to concede ambitions of single payer because DC sucks all the up to her specifically coming out against it in 2016. I didn't even believe it until a little while after that, I really just didn't want to.
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Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:04 PM

123. Bernie was part of the reason Hillary's universal health plan did not pass

 

He didn't thin it was good enough but had it passed we would be in a better position now to push for more. Hillary pushed CHIP harder than anyone. Hillary is to be credited for CHIP a lot more than Bernie.
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Response to WobblyDem (Reply #114)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 09:50 AM

139. Thanks for that.

 

I don't know about this place.
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Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:54 PM

97. I'm a little surprised she praises CHIP. It was incrementalism.

 

I thought incrementalism was very very bad. That's what I keep hearing.
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Response to betsuni (Reply #97)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:41 PM

118. I've seen some go ballistic

 

on twitter when they even get a whiff of incrementalism!

AOC voted to protect ACA in the House, though, which is also that.
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Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:50 PM

120. "Compromise" also seems to be a dirty word.

 

What lucky people to go through life never having to compromise or get some of what you want and not all. That's normal life for most people. But it's trendy to repeat "vision" "transformational" "passion" "revolution" "authentic" and things like that.
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Response to betsuni (Reply #120)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:56 PM

122. Oh yes! Key words you must know

 

if you want everything at once right bloody NOW!
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Fri Nov 1, 2019, 09:27 AM

137. Plus her father owned his own architecture firm, I doubt she qualified for CHIP.

 

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Fri Nov 1, 2019, 03:26 PM

148. I seem to remember something about that. (nt)

 

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Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:31 PM

79. Yes

 

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Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:24 PM

75. Really? That's, um, interesting

 

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Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:27 PM

76. Grammar test: fix the statement

 

(Seen all over social media bc I am a grammar nerd.)

Woman without her man is nothing.

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Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:35 PM

82. Yeah, I try to watch my grammar, too. Two pet peeves are "try and" instead of "try to"....

 

....and dangling participles. But I DO type them sometimes online because it's shorter and quicker.
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Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:39 PM

85. Play the video for the rest of the sentence. NT

 

NT
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Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:48 PM

93. You should tweet that to Sanders, HE is the one who posted the quote in his tweet.

 

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Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:56 PM

99. Yep. (nt)

 

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Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:52 PM

96. You mean, "..that deserves health care, housing, education and a living wage."

 

After she interned for Ted Kennedy, who was championing single payer in 1971? After working as Education Director for the National Hispanic Institute?

Really?



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Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:06 PM

124. I did.

 

I doesn't change anything.
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Thu Oct 31, 2019, 07:47 PM

110. And they say Joe is out of touch? Wow!

 

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Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:39 PM

116. We must all listen to our Savior Bernie Sanders

 

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Fri Nov 1, 2019, 07:55 AM

133. Gather at the feet of the prophet!

 

Praise him!

Ugh.
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Fri Nov 1, 2019, 08:57 AM

136. ...we must gather shoes together in abundance.

 

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Fri Nov 1, 2019, 12:41 PM

147. Nice reference! NT

 

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Response to George II (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:55 PM

121. absolutely beautiful...

 

...it brought a tear to my eye...seriously

...now tell me Bernie and AOC aren't our hope for a bright future?

...if there's a God, if there's justice, if there is a future, Bernie with AOC will be in the White House working for us come January 2021...

...feel it, believe it and don't let people fool you...

...we can do it...
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Response to myohmy2 (Reply #121)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 11:38 AM

146. Wow. "if there's a god... Bernie with AOC will be in the White House... in Januaray 2021?"

 

This stuff sounds just as ludicrous as when Robertson or Graham says it.




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Fri Nov 1, 2019, 12:24 AM

125. I don't see what the problem is with this.

 

But thanks for the lack of context anyway.


On edit, this sounds very similar.
https://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2017/feb/23/david-clarke-jr/david-clarke-says-michelle-obama-said-she-was-prou/
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Response to Buzz cook (Reply #125)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 12:32 AM

126. How is that the same as not recognizing your value as a human being? Seriously?

 

This is kool-aid cult talk.
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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Reply #126)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 02:36 AM

153. Because its a rhetorical frame work

 

Not a statement of absolute truth.

Mrs. Obama's statement was in the context of her husband's victory. It was not meant as an absolute that she had never proud to be an American or never proud of America.
But the Obama's political enemies were able to take that interpretation and run with it.

Is that not the case?

Your claim is that AOC meant that she had never had a sense of self worth ever before in her life. Is that a reasonable recap of your position?
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Response to Buzz cook (Reply #125)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 12:51 AM

127. No. One is a country (us/we), the other is a person (me/I).

 

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Response to Buzz cook (Reply #125)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 09:52 AM

140. Excellent comparison.

 

Kinda sickening to see this honestly. Really reaching for anything and everything.
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Response to redqueen (Reply #140)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 10:32 AM

141. It's no comparison at all, and AOC's comment borders on cult-like

 

Trying to equate

"for the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback"

with

"It wasn’t until I heard of a man by the name of Bernie Sanders that I began to question and assert and recognize my inherent value as a human being."


is what is "really reaching".

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Reply #141)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 10:46 AM

142. Disagree completely.

 

I get what she means as do many others.
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Response to redqueen (Reply #142)

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 07:36 AM

158. They obviously missed Feminism 101.

 

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Response to Buzz cook (Reply #125)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 11:21 AM

143. Not even close

 

Michelle O being really proud of her country and her HUSBAND is way different a young lady attributing her value to Bernie Sanders who is not her husband. Though it would be bad even if he was.
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Response to George II (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 01:01 AM

128. Back in the Dark Ages when I was a kid (okay, it was the 1950s)

 

that's not the attitude that my parents used to raise me and my sister. Thank the gods!
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Response to greatauntoftriplets (Reply #128)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 08:33 AM

135. Nor mine. They taught us self-worth from the time we were small children, and...

 

...they did a great job of raising all six of us.
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Response to George II (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 05:04 PM

151. It's creepy on several levels.

 

His and hers.
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Response to George II (Original post)

Sat Nov 2, 2019, 01:12 AM

152. kick

 

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 11:54 AM

155. Reminds me of this Roberta Flack classic:

 

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Response to George II (Reply #155)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 07:05 PM

157. Perfect.

 

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