
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 04:34 PM
Voltaire2 (10,807 posts)
Sanders leads, Biden slumps in N.H. poll
Elizabeth Warren was in second place, while Pete Buttigieg was fourth and clinched a ticket to the POLITICO/PBS NewsHour debate in December
DURHAM, N.H. Former Vice President Joe Biden suffered a precipitous drop in the latest New Hampshire poll, falling to the lowest point his campaign has seen this election, while Sen. Bernie Sanders recaptured his first-place spot narrowly over Sen. Elizabeth Warren. Sanders was the first choice of 21 percent of likely Democratic primary voters, followed by Sen. Elizabeth Warren at 18 percent, Biden at 15 percent and South Bend (Ind.) Mayor Pete Buttigieg at 10 percent, according to the Granite State Poll conducted by the University of New Hampshire and co-sponsored by CNN. https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/29/bernie-sanders-joe-biden-new-hampshire-poll-061068
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Voltaire2 | Oct 2019 | OP |
TidalWave46 | Oct 2019 | #1 | |
Peacetrain | Oct 2019 | #2 | |
George II | Oct 2019 | #5 | |
ritapria | Oct 2019 | #3 | |
George II | Oct 2019 | #4 | |
ehrnst | Oct 2019 | #6 | |
melman | Oct 2019 | #7 | |
George II | Oct 2019 | #9 | |
TidalWave46 | Oct 2019 | #13 | |
InAbLuEsTaTe | Oct 2019 | #19 | |
BannonsLiver | Oct 2019 | #25 | |
George II | Oct 2019 | #23 | |
Gothmog | Oct 2019 | #8 | |
Post removed | Oct 2019 | #10 | |
Voltaire2 | Oct 2019 | #12 | |
George II | Oct 2019 | #14 | |
Voltaire2 | Oct 2019 | #17 | |
George II | Oct 2019 | #18 | |
TidalWave46 | Oct 2019 | #15 | |
Voltaire2 | Oct 2019 | #16 | |
TidalWave46 | Oct 2019 | #20 | |
Voltaire2 | Oct 2019 | #26 | |
TidalWave46 | Oct 2019 | #27 | |
Act_of_Reparation | Oct 2019 | #28 | |
TidalWave46 | Oct 2019 | #29 | |
Thekaspervote | Oct 2019 | #11 | |
ritapria | Oct 2019 | #21 | |
George II | Oct 2019 | #24 | |
LanternWaste | Oct 2019 | #30 | |
ritapria | Oct 2019 | #22 |
Response to Voltaire2 (Original post)
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 04:38 PM
TidalWave46 (2,061 posts)
1. If they come out of NH even....
Wow. Never would have expected it.
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Response to Voltaire2 (Original post)
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 04:38 PM
Peacetrain (22,563 posts)
2. Just a blip on the map... don't have a sad.. he will be back
Go go go Joe!!
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Response to Peacetrain (Reply #2)
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 04:48 PM
George II (67,782 posts)
5. See my post #4 - the differences between the three is miniscule.
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Response to Voltaire2 (Original post)
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 04:40 PM
ritapria (1,812 posts)
3. A St. Anselm's College NH Poll had Bernie in 4th at 10%
The latest CBS/YouGuv NH places Bernie in 3rd place
.I am not taking these polls very seriously - whether they give me good news or bad
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Voltaire2 (Original post)
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 04:45 PM
George II (67,782 posts)
4. And there are 57% who haven't decided. Put in REAL terms:
Sanders - 21% of 43%, 9.0% of the voters
Warren - 18% of 43%, 7.7% of the voters Biden - 15% of 43%, 6.5% of the voters. Among ALL voters Sanders is ahead of Warren by 1.3% and Biden by 2.5%. In raw numbers, of the 1,266 polled, only 544 have a preference or are "leaning" - 114 preferred Sanders, 98 preferred Warren, 82 preferred Biden. Only 32 people out of the 1,266 people polled preferred Sanders over Biden. Wooo hooo!!! ![]() ![]() Lost in all of this is that 36% feel Biden has the best chance in the General Election, only 18% think Warren does, and only 14% think Sanders does. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to George II (Reply #4)
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 05:02 PM
ehrnst (32,640 posts)
6. "Fifty-seven percent of New Hampshire voters are still trying to decide who they will support."
Such a win!
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Response to George II (Reply #4)
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 05:20 PM
melman (7,681 posts)
7. Funny
I don't recall this kind of poll parsing when Biden was in the lead.
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Response to melman (Reply #7)
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 05:27 PM
George II (67,782 posts)
9. Hmm, that's the third response to me in two threads in less than a half hour. Are you following me?
Last edited Tue Oct 29, 2019, 06:00 PM - Edit history (1) I'm so glad I play such an important part in your life. I promise not to let you down.
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Response to melman (Reply #7)
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 05:48 PM
TidalWave46 (2,061 posts)
13. Understanding the poll and it's results seems to be a good thing.
They were on point with the op.
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Response to melman (Reply #7)
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 06:28 PM
InAbLuEsTaTe (23,912 posts)
19. LMFAO!! It's the "Bernie Standard" at play here... dontcha know?! Get with the program!! haha!!
![]() Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!! Either way, they're stronger together!! Welcome to the revolution!!! ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #19)
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 07:48 AM
BannonsLiver (14,997 posts)
25. ...
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Response to melman (Reply #7)
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 08:21 PM
George II (67,782 posts)
23. I don't ever recall seeing a poll where almost 3/5 of the respondents are "undecided".....
That calls into question the validity of the "lead". In fact, more than half of those being counted are still undecided as well, but they're "leaning". Certainly not a definitive poll, don't you agree?
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Voltaire2 (Original post)
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 05:21 PM
Gothmog (129,970 posts)
8. Here is some interesting polling
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Response to Voltaire2 (Original post)
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Response to Post removed (Reply #10)
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 05:39 PM
Voltaire2 (10,807 posts)
12. what?
Please try to keep it civil. There is no need to attack Sanders supporters. Nor is there any basis to imply that Sanders is going to run a third party campaign.
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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #12)
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 06:05 PM
George II (67,782 posts)
14. There was mention of his supporters, too - some of whom did vote third party (i.e., Jill Stein)....
....and some are among the top echelon of his campaign staff.
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Response to George II (Reply #14)
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 06:17 PM
Voltaire2 (10,807 posts)
17. Jill Stein was not a Sanders supporter in 2016
she was the running for president on the Green Party ticket. You probably meant Sarandon, who was indeed a jerk in 2016.
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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #17)
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 06:20 PM
George II (67,782 posts)
18. Right, but she's the one that Sanders' supporters voted FOR, and some of them have now been hired...
....to head up his campaign.
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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #12)
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 06:10 PM
TidalWave46 (2,061 posts)
15. Isn't he already lined up on one ballot as an independent? NT
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Response to TidalWave46 (Reply #15)
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 06:15 PM
Voltaire2 (10,807 posts)
16. please provide a link to sanders running as an independent for president.
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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #16)
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 06:37 PM
TidalWave46 (2,061 posts)
20. Where did I say such a thing?
I believe he has already registered a third party campaign.
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Response to TidalWave46 (Reply #20)
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 08:40 AM
Voltaire2 (10,807 posts)
26. Oh so your point was just nonsense right from
the start. In a discussion about an assertion that Sanders would run a third party presidential campaign you tried to pretend that his status as an independent senator is evidence that he is going to run as a third party presidential campaign. Got it.
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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #26)
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 09:15 AM
TidalWave46 (2,061 posts)
27. Not nonsense in the least.
I believe my statement to be completely accurate. He is already running under two different flags.
Sorry its such a touchy subject for you. I can understand why. In the end none of it really matters. He is going to end up with almost no delegates. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to TidalWave46 (Reply #27)
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 09:49 AM
Act_of_Reparation (8,904 posts)
28. No serious proposition has ever started with the words "I believe"
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Response to Act_of_Reparation (Reply #28)
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 09:56 AM
TidalWave46 (2,061 posts)
29. I believe your absolute statement...
Cannot be defined as something absolute.
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Response to Voltaire2 (Original post)
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 05:36 PM
Thekaspervote (29,629 posts)
11. One would expect either EW or sanders to lead in NH since it's their neck of the woods
But, the other poll posted here by Gothmog, kinda throws it all in play.
Certainly Joe Biden this past week has had a bunch of state and national polls showing hes padding his leads or retaking lost ground ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Voltaire2 (Original post)
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 06:49 PM
ritapria (1,812 posts)
21. If Liz led their NH Poll
CNN would Proclaim : WARREN WINNING.. WOW
...Now that Bernie is leading
..Crickets
...CNN and MSNBC are on Team Warren ...I don't have any problem with that ...I wish they would stop pretending to be objective
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Response to ritapria (Reply #21)
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 08:27 PM
George II (67,782 posts)
24. CNN has mentioned it at least once every hour since it was released this morning, sometimes twice...
They had a red banner at the top of their page this morning when it was first released, and it's still in the left column of their website home page.
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Response to ritapria (Reply #21)
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 11:42 AM
LanternWaste (37,748 posts)
30. Blame the Media or Blame the Polling.
Seems those are the last two excuses being used consistently and reliably.
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Response to Voltaire2 (Original post)
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 07:14 PM
ritapria (1,812 posts)
22. Bernard wins Iowa Youth Vote Caucus
Sanders 25.1 % 3,364 votes
.Biden 12.6% 1691 votes
..Yang 12.0% 1611 votes ... Buttigieg 11.6% 1557 votes ..... Warren 8.0% 1068 votes
. High School students across Iowa participated in this straw poll
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