Here's a nice photo of the people who attended Bernie's rally in Queens.

[NurseJackie]

Well, at least I think it's the Queens rally. In any case, just look at all those happy faces!

[TidalWave46]

1. Were they bussed in? NT

[NurseJackie]

4. Good question. It's a logical thing to wonder, considering...

... but alas, I do not know.

[TidalWave46]

7. I doubt Queensbridge has seen that much white...

Since their last big snow.

Queensbridge is under 2.5% white.

[NurseJackie]

11. Fun facts are hard to ignore. Thanks for sharing that!

[George II]

12. The Queensbridge Houses are 61% African American, 30% Hispanic and Latino, only 2.3% White....

...but unfortunately the residents of the Queensbridge Houses weren't even told that the rally was going to occur until the night before.

Also, Queens in general is 44% White, 20% African American, and 25% Hispanic or Latino.

That's certainly not what we seen in that photograph.

[Eliot Rosewater]

29. Oh lord let me live long enough to see my prediction come true

so I can TALK about it CONSTANTLY

If it does come true it means the end of America, but oh well.

[cwydro]

75. Soo...you want a prediction that means the end of America to come true?

Just so you can talk about it “CONSTANTLY?”

Alrightie then.

[Cary]

126. Look up the word "facetious."

[cwydro]

129. Ooh, so snarky...my, my, my.

I’ve seen that poster’s posts enough to know that there’s a good chance he/she wasn’t being any such thing.

[Cary]

131. Who appointed you to be Elliot's judge?

[cwydro]

132. Oh dear.

Having a rough morning?

Maybe the same one who appointed you as Eliot's defender?

[Cary]

133. In other words, no one appointed you

Oh dear.

[cwydro]

134. Did I say someone did?

Did you know members here can post what they’d like to post?

So does that mean no one appointed you either? But still you keep at it.

That’s kinda sweet. Or something.

[Cary]

135. Or something

It means your problem with Elliot is your problem.

Just because you can make yourself look like a fool doesn't mean you should.

[cwydro]

137. Mmm.

How interesting.

[Gothmog]

77. I was wondering the same thing

[ecstatic]

24. lmao! But in fairness,

we need to see a closer shot. You can't really tell what's going on from that far out.

[DemocracyMouse]

57. Just zoom into the photo. (Two fingers spreading apart on your cell phone)

But actually when you look closely, they are showing serious exoressions. A bunch of democracy nerds!!..... Oh, wait, could Bernie supporters ALSO be decent, thoughtful Americans? Warren, Harris, Biden and Buttigieg aren't the only candidates garnering interest from intelligent Americans?

God, I'm so tired of people showing so much snark towards the man who broke through America's fear of deep reform. He made it possible for my candidate, Elizabeth Warren, to say "the system is rigged" and be taken seriously.

[pangaia]

59. +++++

[sheshe2]

65. No. Bernie did not.

He made it possible for my candidate, Elizabeth Warren, to say "the system is rigged" and be taken seriously.

No Bernie did not pave any way for Warren. She paved her own.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_Financial_Protection_Bureau

In July 2010, Congress passed the Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act, during the 111th United States Congress in response to the Late-2000s recession and financial crisis.[2] The agency was originally proposed in 2007 by then Harvard Law School professor and current US senator Elizabeth Warren.[8] The proposed CFPB was actively supported by Americans for Financial Reform, a newly created umbrella organization of some 250 consumer, labor, civil rights and other activist organizations.[9]

On September 17, 2010, President Obama announced the appointment of Warren as Assistant to the President and Special Advisor to the Secretary of the Treasury on the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau to set up the new agency.[10][11] Due to the way the legislation creating the bureau was written, until the first Director was in place, the agency was not able to write new rules or supervise financial institutions other than banks.[4]

......................

Fact. E Warren is my Senator and my candidate of choice. Sanders did not pave anything for her. She is her own women as you can see by the CFPB that it was her baby from the get go. The interpretation of rigged to Sanders is very different than hers. She believed the system was rigged by predatory lending back in 2007 and did something about it. He believes the DNC and Media is rigged to thwart his run for President.

[BlueMTexpat]

70. This,

Thanks, as always, for setting the record straight, ss2!

Elizabeth has earned everything that she has accomplished!

I am SOOOO happy to see that we are fellow supporters of Elizabeth Warren!

[DemocracyMouse]

83. I'm talking about media reception to new ideas.

[sheshe2]

110. Hey, Blue.

She is a great candidate!

[betsuni]

72. +1

[DemocracyMouse]

84. I'm talking about media's reception to new ideas.

Everyone has done their part.

[yardwork]

78. Elizabeth Warren didn't need a man to make her career "possible." She did it herself.

[DemocracyMouse]

82. I'm talking about media reception to new ideas.

Gender is a projection

[yardwork]

86. Gender is a projection? Lol.

Here's a clue. Mansplaining didn't work for Bernie last time and it's not going to work now.

[George II]

106. Guess who else claims the system is rigged?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/11/13/trump-told-voters-the-system-was-rigged-now-hes-actively-rigging-it-against-them/

At the close of the 2016 campaign, Donald Trump began telling voters at every appearance that “the system is rigged.”

[UniteFightBack]

43. Subwayed. nt

[George II]

107. That site is about a 10-minute subway ride from many thousands of upper middle class whites.

[Tiggeroshii]

2. That's a helluva lot of people!!

Go Bernie!!

[NurseJackie]

3. Yes indeed... very special people.

[bluewater]

5. New Yorkers?

[George II]

8. New Yorkers ARE very special people. We're a remarkable combination of ALL walks of life...

...races, religions, sexual orientation, and backgrounds.

[snowybirdie]

22. So are

Chicagoians!

[George II]

23. I traveled all over the country, most frequently to Chicago (more than 60 times).....

...I grew to really like your city and it's people. Very much unlike people in most of the rest of the country.

[JoeOtterbein]

31. So are Shrewsburyians!

Or would it be Shrewsburyets? How about Shrewsburys. Naw, nothing works!

[George II]

88. I've been to both Shrewsbury NJ and Shrewsbury MA, both nice suburban towns. There's even....

....a stakes race named after Shrewsbury run each year at nearby Monmouth Park.

[JoeOtterbein]

115. We are in PA. I'd love to visit the others including Shrewsbury, UK.

We actually have a good number of Shrews in the area. Although less now with all the farming and growth of the town. I wonder if the others have/had Shrews as well?

[NurseJackie]

9. Perhaps.

[myohmy2]

16. absolutely...

…a helluva lot of people who came out to see and support the next President of the United States...

Go Bernie!!

...

[Devil Child]

66. That it is, as always the haters gonna hate!

Impressive turnout in support of Sen. Sanders.

[George II]

6. You should have warned me about the brightness of that photograph, I ran and got sunglasses.

[NurseJackie]

10. Well, I suppose I could have adjusted the contrast in my photo editing software...

... but it was easier to simply hotlink to the original. Besides, I think it's important to give an honest and accurate representation. I'm a very honest person.

[Peacetrain]

14. ROFL!!

[myohmy2]

25. I'm...

...color-blind and it didn't seem that bright to me...

...let me take another look...

...

[George II]

26. Color blindness generally affects one's ability to distinguish between greens and blues.....

Not to worry, there were no green or blue people at that rally.

[TeeYiYi]

155. So true...

...and thanks for assuaging my fears; as the missing green and blue people were found to be safe and sound, right here in this very thread!

re: "Not to worry, there were no green or blue people at that rally."

TYY

[Cha]

36. lol.. Sunglasses Please Alert!

[George II]

37. Try these:

[Cha]

39. Haha! My avatar!

[sheshe2]

13. Crowd looks very white for Queens.

However he did have Nina and AOC on stage.

[NurseJackie]

15. Now that you mention it... I see what you mean.

It's kinda like "Where's Waldo"

[George II]

17. Now THAT is a diverse crowd!

[sheshe2]

42. Look at all that color.

That's why I love Crayola's.

Chock full of beautiful magnificent bright colors. There are 64 crayons in a box. Only one is flesh colored and only one is white. The rest are the rainbows of the world.







https://www.adweek.com/brand-marketing/crayola-has-given-its-century-old-product-a-contemporary-relevance-even-in-the-age-of-ipads/

[still_one]

47. such diversity!!!

[still_one]

46. excellent

[BlueMTexpat]

71. ...

[George II]

20. It's even whiter than when I lived in Queens 45 years ago.

[Cha]

38. Exactly, she.. They were bussed in

and not giving much thought to the optics of being in Queens.

Bernie Sanders Rally By Queensbridge Houses Blindsides Residents

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287320437#top

[myohmy2]

128. "However he did have Nina and AOC on stage."

...and that's a good thing; something no one else has...

...Bernie gets support from everywhere, all the time...

...no matter how voters come to see our Bernie, by car, by bus, by plane, by train, bicycle or walking, they come enthusiastically to see and support the next President of the United States in person...

...that makes me feel so proud...

[aikoaiko]

145. Do you need some help with making that determination?

[betsuni]

18. That reminds me, I have some marshmallows I have to use up before they get too stale.

I think I'll make popcorn balls! Hard to clean melted marshmallow residue in the pan, tho.

[sheshe2]

21. Use tinfoil. Clean up will be easier.

It has many uses.

[still_one]

48. +++

[sheshe2]

52. :) ;)

[mcar]

19. Blinding!

[tblue37]

27. I like Bernie, but his time is over. Here is another picture of that crowd:

.

[Eliot Rosewater]

32. Yes and no.

stay tuned, sigh...

[tblue37]

34. I supported him in the primaries last year (and Hillary in the GE, or course), but at 78 and post

heart attack, I think he won't be nominated. I do think he deserves a lot of credit for pushing the Democrats to be much more liberal and for shifting the Overton window leftward.

But I do think Warren is a better choice to carry that message now.

[CTyankee]

117. I did the same as you in '16 and feel as you do now...

[sheshe2]

40. Period!!!

Nailed it, white out.

[melman]

44. .

% of supporters who are white:

- Elizabeth Warren: 71%
- Kamala Harris: 59%
- Joe Biden: 56%
- Bernie Sanders: 49%

https://www.people-press.org/2019/08/16/most-democrats-are-excited-by-several-2020-candidates-not-just-their-top-choice/pp_2019-08-16_2020-democratic-candidates_0-06-2/

[sheshe2]

50. Weird.

What is your point? Pew only shows the white vote. Where are are all the other people, POC that vote? There are about 30 pages to scroll through and it is late and not going there.

However I will say the very first page is telling. If he now has only 49% of the white vote, his base... Then he is losing. Period.

.
.
.

Thanks for the chart, Melman. It was eye opening.

[melman]

53. Find an article that says Warrens's supporters aren't overwhelmingly white

You can't.

[sheshe2]

54. They are.

For now.

Point is she has more than BS and that is in fact his base. If he is only running at 49% of his base, then he is not doing well.

[George II]

55. To follow that train of thought......."Find an article (or photograph) that says.....

....Warrens's [sic] supporters" are "overwhelmingly white"!

"You can't."

[sheshe2]

58. Bullseye.

[George II]

60. ....

footnote: "stupid gif" bwahahahahaha.

[sheshe2]

62. Ha!

Not the one I was looking for...yet close.





Hey~

[ehrnst]

118. Prove a negative?

Last edited Sat Oct 26, 2019, 05:53 PM - Edit history (1)

But OK.

After struggling to win over African Americans in the early stages of the primary season, polls show the Massachusetts senator is gaining traction with a pivotal constituency.

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/02/elizabeth-warren-black-voters-support-2020-016649

And Warren sure didn't blow it at the She the People forum, like other candidates.

https://www.vox.com/2019/4/25/18514995/she-the-people-elizabeth-warren-kamala-harris-women-of-color-voters

[melman]

122. Straw man

OMG STRAW MAN LOLOL

[ehrnst]

125. OMG ACCUSING SOMEONE OF ATTACKING A STRAW MAN LOL

I don't think that means what you think it does.

I was responding to your statement concerning POC support of Warren.... Is that clearer?

[melman]

136. I'm just trying to emulate someone I admire very much

Someone who constantly calls out fallacies and almost always incorrectly.


ps. I love this thing where you take a line I used or a gif like the one above and then endlessly repost it at me.


SUCH A SICK BURN. SO TOTALLY DEVASTATING..

[ehrnst]

138. Lulz.

(Must've really hit the nail on the head when I mentioned the She the People forum...)

[TheFarseer]

76. I find it strange

That someone can have Warren as their candidate and HATE Bernie Sanders. I've come to view Warren as a more acceptable(to mainstream Democrats) form of Sanders, but to me, they are largely similar on policy.

[handmade34]

111. policy isn't everything...

in fact, it is often the lesser of qualities considered... I like Bernie as my Senator, I very much dislike Bernie as a Presidential candidate... I love Warren and would vote for her in a heartbeat

[sheshe2]

113. Well, first of all, she is my Senator.

I voted for her twice and met her once. She is brilliant, witty and an energetic speaker. While some of their policies may be similar, I also use a yardstick when considering a candidate. I measure their lists of accomplishments along with their policies.

Here is a sample and this was only through 2016.

1. In 2011, while working as an assistant for President Obama, Warren single-handedly conceived of and established the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, a watchdog agency that helps protect the little guy from Wall Street’s dirty schemes. Thanks to the newly-formed agency, mortgage lenders can no longer push you into a loan you cannot afford. And these servicers now have to make a good faith effort to keep you out of foreclosure. If they don’t, they face hefty civil penalties.

It’s not just mortgage companies and big banks that now have to sleep with their eyes open. Credit card companies also now have to play by the rules. In 2012, the bureau ordered three American Express subsidiaries to pay out $85 million to over 250,000 customers they screwed over through illegal practices.

Warren managed to do all of this even while the GOP did everything in their power to cockblock it. And when they failed that mission, they bitched and moaned and managed to prevent her from being nominated head of the CFPB. She then used their tantrum as a pathway to run for Senate.

And she won. Easily.

3. In only three years, she has sponsored at least 36 bills, including the Equal Employment Act for All, the Schedules That Work Act, the Trade Transparency Act, and the Fed Accountability Act. She consistently fights for legislation that champions for women’s rights, paid family leave, low-wage workers, fair trade and affordable education.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/5/9/1524727/-Elizabeth-Warren-s-List-of-Accomplishments-is-Bigger-than-Trump-s-Hanging-Chad

[ehrnst]

139. "HATE Bernie Sanders." Pointing out facts is "hate?" I find it strange that Sanders supporters

think that having a broader appeal among Democrats is somehow something to be tolerated rather than a positive.

I've come to view Warren as a more acceptable(to mainstream Democrats) form of Sanders,

Goodness, you have a dim view of "mainstream Democrats" don't you - as though they don't really understand Bernie... are you sure you're on the right board?

Warren's been a Democrat far, far longer, and she has more concrete accomplishments in her much shorter career. She has far more respect and therefore influence among her peers, and that says volumes.

Warren's real power lies in her outsized influence, not just for a freshman senator, but for virtually any elected official in Washington. Her pen may not have touched many pieces of legislation that made their way to Obama's desk since her election in 2012, but her fingerprints are all over them.

Warren would be a strong spokeswoman for the party in Congress or outside of it; she spurred creation of a federal agency —the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau— without the title of "senator" in front of her name. But allies say Warren's best tool is her seat at the committee table in the Senate. Through hearings on the Senate Banking Committee in particular, Warren's questioning and persistence has lead to rules changes at various federal agencies without needing to get legislation through a Republican-controlled Congress. Most notably, Warren successfully pushed the SEC to require banks to admit wrongdoing in negotiating many settlements.

Even critics acknowledge that Warren's influence, particularly over federal agencies and her Democratic colleagues, goes beyond her fairly brief record of legislative accomplishment.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/05/is-elizabeth-warren-an-effective-senator/449349/

[TheFarseer]

140. Well you sure came in here guns blazing

"Hate Bernie Sanders" yeah, you came into this conversation to tell me that I (btw I am undecided) and supporters of Bernie are not real Democrats(ie not on the right board). I have a good mind to alert your post. The idea that Warren is also progressive but more acceptable to mainstream Democrats for whatever reason is hardly a revolutionary statement. I've heard it said many times.

[ehrnst]

153. "I have a good mind to alert your post."

For what, exactly?

Backing up my response to you with facts?

[Celerity]

151. so many Berners HATE Warren (not talking about DU), they think (ludicrously) she is a Rethug

stalking horse.

I saw so much pure venom at that turgid little hate site, JPR (never heard of it until I saw it talked about here on DU.)

It seemed that the only person they hate more than Warren is Hillary, with Biden and Buttigieg also up there, same for Harris.

I refuse to link to that rathole.

[George II]

51. How about # of actual supporters, inasmuch as BS is 3rd or even 4th in many of the polls?

[George II]

45. This deserves a "stupid gif"......

[StarfishSaver]

28. Need to get out my snowboots

[George II]

56. I wonder if one of those sporting goods chains will come out....

....with a combination of snowboots AND waders?

[aidbo]

30. Your jealousy is pathetic.

[NurseJackie]

35. ...

[sheshe2]

41. ...

[George II]

49. Um...no:

?itemid=13142173

[PhoenixDem]

63. Jealousy of what?

[Devil Child]

67. +1 n/t

[Voltaire2]

103. yup.

real classy. as always.

[doc03]

33. Huuuuuge nt

[oasis]

61. So Klobuchar isn't the only candidate to give a speech in a blizzard?

[George II]

96. Bazinga!

[PhoenixDem]

64. I am not surprised at all

I wouldn't be surprised if half of them travel to go to every one of his rallies.

[thewhollytoast]

68. Hi Jackie, I was going to let this go.

However, I just can't.

I find the premise of your post hurtful.
I'm so white that 75% of my “immediate” family say I actually glow.

When we've taken family photo's I've been told, I should stand in the back so that my "whiteness" won't flood them out of the picture.

Families can tease.

My dome is shiny. My beard is now totally white.

On background, perhaps I should share why my family sticks together - politically.
We are unabashed socialists. Hippies.

My father's mom was a contemporary, and friend, of Jeannette Rankin.

The Matriarch of the other part of my family knew Dr. King and was present at his last speech.

Not like you.


You should be ashamed of yourself.

But, you are not.

because you are a troll.

thanks for playing.

[Devil Child]

69. Thoughtful and powerful post thewhollytoast

Thank you for speaking out.

[still_one]

99. Calling a DUer a troll is a thoughtful post?

[Voltaire2]

105. it could be

[George II]

144. Under what circumstances could calling someone a troll be "thoughtful"?

[Autumn]

80. Jackie posted a nice pic of the rally. If you zoom in it shows a very diverse crowd.

I hadn't seen this one

[George II]

90. Unfortunately it's not very reflective of the neighborhood in which the rally took place.

[Autumn]

93. Fortunately it's a heck of a big crowd, and diverse.

[George II]

87. You actually called someone here on Democratic Underground a "troll"? REALLY???

[MineralMan]

91. Namecalling is trending these days, I guess.

Nancy is not a troll. She just doesn't agree with everyone's positions on things. Apparently that's enough for some to shift them into a different mode of communication.

[MineralMan]

92. Calling a long-time member of DU a troll isn't very nice.

Think about it.

[ehrnst]

94. "because you are a troll." Now there's a sure way to get your message across in a manner that

suggests you are here for serious discussion of the issues.

[still_one]

98. You called a DUer a troll.

[still_one]

100. Let's all welcome the JPR gang back!!!

[betsuni]

114. Heh. When supporting Democrats on a forum for Democrats makes one a troll.

[Voltaire2]

121. This OP is not "supporting Democrats".

[betsuni]

123. Lulzd.

[Voltaire2]

124. Indeed.

[Cha]

119. Hey toast.. you're one to talk. Do you actually

have any comment on the content of the OP?

[George II]

120. Excellent question. Wonder if an answer will be forthcoming?

[nini]

150. Perhaps you really should have let it go

Calling someone a troll? tsk tsk.

[Tarheel_Dem]

73. Are you sure that's not Vermont?

[handmade34]

112. nah

no flat place big enough for all those people and they are too young... it is only us old geezers left here in Vermont (except maybe Burlington)

[Autumn]

79. Nice! Thanks Jackie. I zoomed in and there were a lot of happy people. Very diverse crowd.

K& R!

[Joe941]

85. Bernie is surging. I'm very impressed!

[ehrnst]

89. Reminds me of the crowds at Nader rallies in 2000.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/cdevers/3330455922

[Eliot Rosewater]

97. I am so sick of this BULLSHIT stalking. I make a comment in anger, obviously

not meaning it in the literal sense as in the end of America, and I can BE CERTAIN someone from a CERTAIN GROUP will show up and pretend that I am saying something bad so they can ATTACK my character when in fact the only reason I am being attacked is I am one of the

PRO HILLARY

people here and that gets you ATTENTION from that CERTAIN GROUP...

Sick of it, I NEVER respond to these people, but I am SICK of it.


(I am not responding to you, ehrnst...I am responding to a STALKING POST but I refuse to acknowledge the HILLARY HATERS on here so I never respond to them directly, but I need to say this or I am gonna fucking burst)

And they never get tired, they NEVER stop BASHING Hillary and her supporters. She isnt even running, sigh.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

130. Thanks for saying that. It's so obvious the pouncing

immediately by the stalkers. Not just re Hillary but other subjects too. Especially Impeachment. I have often wondered how this happens. I thought somehow there was a feature that when a word was mentioned, people got an alert of some kind. But no. It would explain the speed at which the stalkers converge. I never trust people who care more about trashing your idea than presenting a positive rationale for their own views.

[MineralMan]

95. He got a good turnout of his supporters, it looks like.

I'm not surprised. He'll be in the Twin Cities on November 3. I'll bet he gets a good turnout here, too. Maybe someone will photograph the crowd there, as well.

[George II]

101. A couple of more photographs:

[emmaverybo]

104. Members of SAG? Photogenic group. Must have put a call out for some bearded.

[George II]

108. Surprised so many could make it - Saturday is matinee day on Broadway.

[NurseJackie]

116. Those are great photos! Thanks for sharing!

[Cuthbert Allgood]

149. There are more people in that top photo than I've seen at some Biden rallies.

That's awesome.

Though I'm sure you have some other ridiculous point you are trying to make.

[manintheback]

109. Largest crowd so far in for any cadidate.

There are a whole lot of people who are clearly feelin the Bern.

[Cary]

127. Reminds me of Nancy Reagan crowing about all of the smiling, white faces

[Tipperary]

141. Huh?

How did Nancy Reagan get in this?

[Cary]

143. When Reagan was campaigning he held a rally

Nancy Reagan made a comment about seeing all of the smiling white faces in the rally.

i said this picture reminds me of that. If you don't understand, then you don't understand.

[aidbo]

148. That is absurd. You're stretching that far just to compare Sanders to Nancy Reagan being racist.

fucking absurd.

[Cary]

154. (Read slowly) Is that right?

[BlueMississippi]

142. kick nt

[LanternWaste]

146. Audience is reminiscent of a 1975 Lynyrd Skynyrd concert.

[progressoid]

147. Because they should be waving confederate flags!1!!1

Amirite?

[Celerity]

152. I think that was common way back then

LYNYRD SKYNYRD US group in 1975
Contributor: Pictorial Press Ltd / Alamy Stock Photo


curious description of Bernie supporters

somehow I do not think that flag would go down well there, lolol