Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumFor Joe Biden.. and all those who support him.. or are thinking about it
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SterlingPound
(428 posts)and many did the last cycle
and look where that got us.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Peacetrain
(22,836 posts)and that is how it is...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SterlingPound
(428 posts)But Vote Progressive in the Primaries.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Peacetrain
(22,836 posts)this is happy time for me.. and I will vote for the Democratic nominee and hope to hell it is Joe because he is the best for the job... got my mind SET!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(42,672 posts)KNOW it is a reality.) Gambling on that not being the case in THIS general election, against THIS incumbent, in is THIS currently fucked up nation is NOT a gamble I will participate in by trying to proselytise about the wonders of the far left atm.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SterlingPound
(428 posts)in the media
you actually have to vote progressive
so they will be there to say it themselves in leadership and on the media
because the media and the leadership sure won't say it themselves
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Celerity
(42,672 posts)of RW Rethug partisan gerrymandering that has created so so many artificially produced swing/pink/purple/red districts where is very hard for a prog to win. Now that the SCOTUS has been taken over by the RW and has just ruled again that partisan gerrymandering is legal (what a disastrous decision!) then pretty much the only way to do this is at state level by winning back the majority of the state legislative bodies. The 2020 state legislative body elections are SO key, as 2020 is not only a POTUS election and federal and state election year, but also a CENSUS year, and the states will draw new maps based off it that will potentially fuck us for a another 10 years.
The problem is that in the already Rethug-controlled states, those bodies not only gerrymander for the House elections at federal level, but they gerrymander as well for their very own bodies. It is as epic clusterfuck that has shifted the US electoral map and overall philosophical bent of the reps and senators at both federal and state level so far to the right that even moderate, centrist and Blue dog types and even many centre-left US DEMOCRATS (state reps, senators, federal reps and senators) would be on the rightward edge of many, many major centre right European parties. Even some of the 'far right' parties (mostly the ones who are populist and anti-immigration) are streets ahead of the US Democrats as a whole in terms of healthcare system platforms, etc etc.
Most all of the mainstream right-wing parties in most all of the advanced world would never dream (other than their most RW parts) of dismantling their universal healthcare schemes or taking away free or ultra low cost uni systems and instituting a S style system laden with 1.7 trillion USD in student debt (population-adjust of course), etc etc.
Hell, Warren would be (IF she kept her exact same stances she holds now) considered centre-right on many things. Bernie would be a completely bog standard, milquetoast social democrat (centre left), and actual socialists parties would NEVER let him in, unless he radically changed many of his stances much farther to the left. We (the US) live (I have mostly lived in the UK and the EU, and I am in the EU now, but have spent a few years back (where I was born and left to London as a baby) in Los Angeles) in such a SKEWED system.
For example, if someone tells you that massive numbers (I have even seen the outright insane claim of a majority) of Europeans, Aussies, Canadians, etc would swap their healthcare systems for the US model, well that person is, to be polite, fucking lying to your face. It is complete bollocks, period, end of story. The US political system (and many other parts of the overall socio-economic and cultural spheres) are utterly broken at a multiplicity of levels, including the basic definitions and actions of what is left and what is right, as well as the capture of the rule of law by not just Rumpian ultra-gaslighting and destruction of truth, but also by the corporatisation and buying of all things political.
I am nothing if not a very pragmatic 23 year old (my UK and EU politics are far to the left of my US politics (especially when viewed through the tragically skewed American political prism), simply due to the limited possibilities in the American system atm. Again this superstructure of limitation for US progressivism comes from the reasons listed above (and others too, that are beyond the scope of this already far too long reply) and, to bring it full circle and to a close, I also strive to be a realist, thus my outright lack of hope for (anytime soon) a working majority of 'progressives' in Congress and at a majority of state levels as well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SterlingPound
(428 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)I've actually contributed to four candidates now. Don't want any of the good ones to drop out because they're short of cash.
To bad it comes down to this, though.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(22,836 posts)I am ashamed to say, I had not contributed till then... I usually start my contributions after Christmas.. (limited income here). but now is the time!!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(22,836 posts)(now they had that cranked up) and I went whistling out of Lowes. a happy person.. love the song
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)love or much here. Thanks for sharing your moment. Love GH too.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(22,836 posts)hopeful and happy... and sometimes I have to give way to the joy.. "I got my mind set on Joe.. I got my mind set on Joe"..
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)You go, Joe.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
iamateacher
(1,088 posts)I have noticed even though I had contributed before I stopped getting Biden emails sometime in September. And they are not in junk mail. I was getting them for months previously. That says to me that his online staff needs to get it together.
The same with another candidate that I contributed to...who is now on the verge of dropping out.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(22,836 posts)there is a lot of confusion on the internet with Biden sites...the right with the help of the Ruskies, have put up Joe Biden sites that are just the worst... My guess is that they are smacking down the Russians..
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)His very existence in the race and his high poll numbers against Trump caused Trump to do something predictably illegal and worthy of getting kicked out of office.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(22,836 posts)Trump usually makes those who get around him dirty so they cannot back away from him.. very gangsterish.. but with every attempt to bring down Biden, it has backfired on Trump in the most brilliant way..
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SweepPicker
(266 posts)set on blue...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(22,836 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)when we dont get much enthusiasm here or with mediain fact, with all internet news sites and forums, its either far right wing cheerleading or effusiveness re progressive choices.
I notice every time theres some little show of feeling about Joe, those supporting another candidate feel duty bound to say something like true of ALL candidates etc.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
quickesst
(6,280 posts)Joe2020
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
quickesst
(6,280 posts)... no matter who their candidate of choice is would get a kick out of this.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(22,836 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
quickesst
(6,280 posts)Glad you dig it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,005 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(22,836 posts)and it reflects the core of the man..
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,005 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,005 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(22,836 posts)Alrighty now!!!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,005 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,005 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(22,836 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,005 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TrunKated
(208 posts)He should have tossed in some....
Heart set on you's...
And some
Sights set on you's...
But who am I to say?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,005 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WA-03 Democrat
(3,017 posts)Go Joe Go!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden