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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
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For Joe Biden.. and all those who support him.. or are thinking about it (Original Post) Peacetrain Oct 2019 OP
You could sing the same of bernie SterlingPound Oct 2019 #1
I've got my mind set on Joe.. got my mind set on Joe Peacetrain Oct 2019 #5
VoteBlueNoMatterWho SterlingPound Oct 2019 #7
Got my mind set on Joe!! Peacetrain Oct 2019 #8
in many cases 'progressive' is a general election loser (I do not think that is a good thing, but I Celerity Oct 2019 #31
If you want to hear that progressives are electible from our dem leaders and SterlingPound Oct 2019 #32
Beyond that, if we want more progressives elected, we have to systematically undue the decades Celerity Oct 2019 #33
Not to mention 100 years of anti progressive propaganda on all levels of our society SterlingPound Oct 2019 #34
Talking about raining on a parade... emmaverybo Oct 2019 #15
I made my third contribution last night - all small, but every little bit helps.... George II Oct 2019 #2
Me too Peacetrain Oct 2019 #3
AWESOME song by me mate, George Dennis Donovan Oct 2019 #4
I was at Lowes and heard that the song coming off someones headset Peacetrain Oct 2019 #6
That's the thing. Brings us a little happiness. And goodness knows, Joe doesn't get any media emmaverybo Oct 2019 #16
The fact that Joe is in the race makes me so hopeful.. yep that the word emmaverybo Peacetrain Oct 2019 #20
Yay for happy hope! I got my mind set too and that's our primary prerogative Peacetrain. emmaverybo Oct 2019 #22
I contributed also iamateacher Oct 2019 #9
I got my contribution out also.. Peacetrain Oct 2019 #12
After the Taylor hearings today, Biden might've accidentally already accomplished what he set to do. phleshdef Oct 2019 #10
Hubby and I were talking about that... how Biden got the better of Trump Peacetrain Oct 2019 #13
I've got MY mind SweepPicker Oct 2019 #11
Me too... in the end, we should all have our minds set on BLUE Peacetrain Oct 2019 #14
That's good. We all do. But does no harm to get some morale going among supporters especially emmaverybo Oct 2019 #17
I'm all in for Joe!!! quickesst Oct 2019 #18
That is really fun. No more years LOL ! You Go, Joe! emmaverybo Oct 2019 #19
thought everybody.... quickesst Oct 2019 #23
Love it, love it , love it Peacetrain Oct 2019 #21
Thanks Peacetrain... quickesst Oct 2019 #24
I support Joe because the man he is when the cameras aren't looking. Gothmog Oct 2019 #25
Thank you for posting.... that is such a great story!! Peacetrain Oct 2019 #26
I won't stop fighting for the hardworking Americans who make our country run every single day. Gothmog Oct 2019 #27
Biden's support, base, and momentum are stronger than ever before! Gothmog Oct 2019 #28
I am sitting here smiling ear to ear... Peacetrain Oct 2019 #29
I am glad that Biden is doing well Gothmog Oct 2019 #30
@JoeBiden Leads by 10 in New @McLaughlinAssoc Poll Gothmog Oct 2019 #35
Awesome!!! Peacetrain Oct 2019 #36
This makes me smile Gothmog Oct 2019 #37
I always thought. ... TrunKated Oct 2019 #38
I am looking forward to Sunday's interview of Joe Gothmog Oct 2019 #39
Me too! WA-03 Democrat Oct 2019 #40
 

SterlingPound

(428 posts)
1. You could sing the same of bernie
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 04:06 PM
Oct 2019

and many did the last cycle

and look where that got us.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Peacetrain

(22,836 posts)
5. I've got my mind set on Joe.. got my mind set on Joe
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 04:10 PM
Oct 2019

and that is how it is...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SterlingPound

(428 posts)
7. VoteBlueNoMatterWho
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 04:12 PM
Oct 2019

But Vote Progressive in the Primaries.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Peacetrain

(22,836 posts)
8. Got my mind set on Joe!!
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 04:13 PM
Oct 2019

this is happy time for me.. and I will vote for the Democratic nominee and hope to hell it is Joe because he is the best for the job... got my mind SET!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Celerity

(42,672 posts)
31. in many cases 'progressive' is a general election loser (I do not think that is a good thing, but I
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 12:54 AM
Oct 2019

KNOW it is a reality.) Gambling on that not being the case in THIS general election, against THIS incumbent, in is THIS currently fucked up nation is NOT a gamble I will participate in by trying to proselytise about the wonders of the far left atm.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SterlingPound

(428 posts)
32. If you want to hear that progressives are electible from our dem leaders and
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 03:45 AM
Oct 2019

in the media

you actually have to vote progressive

so they will be there to say it themselves in leadership and on the media

because the media and the leadership sure won't say it themselves

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Celerity

(42,672 posts)
33. Beyond that, if we want more progressives elected, we have to systematically undue the decades
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 04:31 AM
Oct 2019

of RW Rethug partisan gerrymandering that has created so so many artificially produced swing/pink/purple/red districts where is very hard for a prog to win. Now that the SCOTUS has been taken over by the RW and has just ruled again that partisan gerrymandering is legal (what a disastrous decision!) then pretty much the only way to do this is at state level by winning back the majority of the state legislative bodies. The 2020 state legislative body elections are SO key, as 2020 is not only a POTUS election and federal and state election year, but also a CENSUS year, and the states will draw new maps based off it that will potentially fuck us for a another 10 years.

The problem is that in the already Rethug-controlled states, those bodies not only gerrymander for the House elections at federal level, but they gerrymander as well for their very own bodies. It is as epic clusterfuck that has shifted the US electoral map and overall philosophical bent of the reps and senators at both federal and state level so far to the right that even moderate, centrist and Blue dog types and even many centre-left US DEMOCRATS (state reps, senators, federal reps and senators) would be on the rightward edge of many, many major centre right European parties. Even some of the 'far right' parties (mostly the ones who are populist and anti-immigration) are streets ahead of the US Democrats as a whole in terms of healthcare system platforms, etc etc.

Most all of the mainstream right-wing parties in most all of the advanced world would never dream (other than their most RW parts) of dismantling their universal healthcare schemes or taking away free or ultra low cost uni systems and instituting a S style system laden with 1.7 trillion USD in student debt (population-adjust of course), etc etc.

Hell, Warren would be (IF she kept her exact same stances she holds now) considered centre-right on many things. Bernie would be a completely bog standard, milquetoast social democrat (centre left), and actual socialists parties would NEVER let him in, unless he radically changed many of his stances much farther to the left. We (the US) live (I have mostly lived in the UK and the EU, and I am in the EU now, but have spent a few years back (where I was born and left to London as a baby) in Los Angeles) in such a SKEWED system.

For example, if someone tells you that massive numbers (I have even seen the outright insane claim of a majority) of Europeans, Aussies, Canadians, etc would swap their healthcare systems for the US model, well that person is, to be polite, fucking lying to your face. It is complete bollocks, period, end of story. The US political system (and many other parts of the overall socio-economic and cultural spheres) are utterly broken at a multiplicity of levels, including the basic definitions and actions of what is left and what is right, as well as the capture of the rule of law by not just Rumpian ultra-gaslighting and destruction of truth, but also by the corporatisation and buying of all things political.

I am nothing if not a very pragmatic 23 year old (my UK and EU politics are far to the left of my US politics (especially when viewed through the tragically skewed American political prism), simply due to the limited possibilities in the American system atm. Again this superstructure of limitation for US progressivism comes from the reasons listed above (and others too, that are beyond the scope of this already far too long reply) and, to bring it full circle and to a close, I also strive to be a realist, thus my outright lack of hope for (anytime soon) a working majority of 'progressives' in Congress and at a majority of state levels as well.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SterlingPound

(428 posts)
34. Not to mention 100 years of anti progressive propaganda on all levels of our society
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 12:49 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
15. Talking about raining on a parade...
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 05:37 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
2. I made my third contribution last night - all small, but every little bit helps....
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 04:07 PM
Oct 2019

I've actually contributed to four candidates now. Don't want any of the good ones to drop out because they're short of cash.

To bad it comes down to this, though.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,836 posts)
3. Me too
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 04:09 PM
Oct 2019

I am ashamed to say, I had not contributed till then... I usually start my contributions after Christmas.. (limited income here). but now is the time!!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
4. AWESOME song by me mate, George
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 04:09 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,836 posts)
6. I was at Lowes and heard that the song coming off someones headset
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 04:11 PM
Oct 2019

(now they had that cranked up) and I went whistling out of Lowes. a happy person.. love the song

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
16. That's the thing. Brings us a little happiness. And goodness knows, Joe doesn't get any media
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 05:40 PM
Oct 2019

love or much here. Thanks for sharing your moment. Love GH too.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,836 posts)
20. The fact that Joe is in the race makes me so hopeful.. yep that the word emmaverybo
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 07:45 PM
Oct 2019

hopeful and happy... and sometimes I have to give way to the joy.. "I got my mind set on Joe.. I got my mind set on Joe"..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
22. Yay for happy hope! I got my mind set too and that's our primary prerogative Peacetrain.
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 07:55 PM
Oct 2019

You go, Joe.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

iamateacher

(1,088 posts)
9. I contributed also
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 04:35 PM
Oct 2019

I have noticed even though I had contributed before I stopped getting Biden emails sometime in September. And they are not in junk mail. I was getting them for months previously. That says to me that his online staff needs to get it together.
The same with another candidate that I contributed to...who is now on the verge of dropping out.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,836 posts)
12. I got my contribution out also..
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 05:09 PM
Oct 2019

there is a lot of confusion on the internet with Biden sites...the right with the help of the Ruskies, have put up Joe Biden sites that are just the worst... My guess is that they are smacking down the Russians..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
10. After the Taylor hearings today, Biden might've accidentally already accomplished what he set to do.
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 04:37 PM
Oct 2019

His very existence in the race and his high poll numbers against Trump caused Trump to do something predictably illegal and worthy of getting kicked out of office.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,836 posts)
13. Hubby and I were talking about that... how Biden got the better of Trump
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 05:12 PM
Oct 2019

Trump usually makes those who get around him dirty so they cannot back away from him.. very gangsterish.. but with every attempt to bring down Biden, it has backfired on Trump in the most brilliant way..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SweepPicker

(266 posts)
11. I've got MY mind
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 04:41 PM
Oct 2019

set on blue...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,836 posts)
14. Me too... in the end, we should all have our minds set on BLUE
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 05:13 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
17. That's good. We all do. But does no harm to get some morale going among supporters especially
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 05:48 PM
Oct 2019

when we don’t get much enthusiasm here or with media—in fact, with all internet news sites and forums, it’s either far right wing cheerleading or effusiveness re progressive choices.

I notice every time there’s some little show of feeling about Joe, those supporting another candidate feel duty bound to say something like “true of ALL candidates” etc.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
18. I'm all in for Joe!!!
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 06:01 PM
Oct 2019

Joe2020



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
19. That is really fun. No more years LOL ! You Go, Joe!
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 06:32 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
23. thought everybody....
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 08:47 PM
Oct 2019

... no matter who their candidate of choice is would get a kick out of this.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,836 posts)
21. Love it, love it , love it
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 07:46 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
24. Thanks Peacetrain...
Tue Oct 22, 2019, 08:58 PM
Oct 2019

Glad you dig it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(144,005 posts)
25. I support Joe because the man he is when the cameras aren't looking.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 10:16 AM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,836 posts)
26. Thank you for posting.... that is such a great story!!
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 10:17 AM
Oct 2019

and it reflects the core of the man..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(144,005 posts)
27. I won't stop fighting for the hardworking Americans who make our country run every single day.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 02:53 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(144,005 posts)
28. Biden's support, base, and momentum are stronger than ever before!
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 06:16 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,836 posts)
29. I am sitting here smiling ear to ear...
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 06:17 PM
Oct 2019

Alrighty now!!!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(144,005 posts)
30. I am glad that Biden is doing well
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 11:08 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(144,005 posts)
35. @JoeBiden Leads by 10 in New @McLaughlinAssoc Poll
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:58 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TrunKated

(208 posts)
38. I always thought. ...
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 01:34 PM
Oct 2019

He should have tossed in some....

Heart set on you's...

And some

Sights set on you's...


But who am I to say?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(144,005 posts)
39. I am looking forward to Sunday's interview of Joe
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 01:48 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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