Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumWas anyone else bothered by Biden's "clipping coupons in the stock market" line?
Where did that come from? As far as I've seen, that odd line from the debate has not been discussed here.
It was ignored by the other candidates (as it should have been, as they tried to stay focussed on issues of substance). But if he had said that line in a debate with Trump, I bet Trump would have hammered him on it, and the whole election could turn on something like that.
This is my biggest fear in ending up with Trump and Biden together on the debate stage, and why I have a hard time seeing Biden as our "most electable" option. I worry about his ability to be able to speak off-script for any length of time without veering into something incoherent at some point... and Trump will go to town on him when it happens. I don't relish the idea of watching those debates with my fingers crossed that our candidate doesn't say something that makes you scratch your head.
Warren, Buttigieg, Sanders, Harris, Klobuchar, whoever... you may agree or disagree with this policy or that, but none is likely to say anything that will make you cringe. I don't have that faith in Biden. Do Biden supporters see it differently? Or do they think it doesn't matter?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
James48
(4,416 posts)And clipping bond coupons was a thing in the olden days.
That's what you did (clipping a coupon) to redeem the bond payout at a scheduled time.
I don't have any idea if they still do that. I guess that just shows how ancient I am.
Here is an article about coupon bonds (bearer bonds without traceable registration, that you get your payout of interrest by clipping the appropriate coupon, mailing it in to the issuer, and then the issuer paid you a check).
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/couponbond.asp
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)most in America, in the world at this timeexperience, knowledge, insight into all the troubled
areas Biden has proven hes not only aware of, but on top of.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TryLogic
(1,721 posts)Not very serious, but in the general category of cringe worthy.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lastlib
(22,978 posts)All bonds now must be registered as to ownership/taxability (which coupon bonds were not; so the IRS couldn't collect taxes on the payments).
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,718 posts)And probably more recently, but I don't want to spend more than a couple of minutes googling for evidence that the terminology is still acceptable.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(11,953 posts)If you know what he's talking about, you can usually figure out the through-line.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
gulliver
(13,142 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
vsrazdem
(2,176 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SterlingPound
(428 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,110 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SterlingPound
(428 posts)the last couple of decades just because his whole life has been invested in building it.
time to progress not regress.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,110 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SterlingPound
(428 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
janterry
(4,429 posts)I am very hopeful that he won't be the nominee.
The very first time he tried to run, I sort of liked him (and was intrigued). Not anymore. Especially now. I want someone who can move us forward .
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,110 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
chillfactor
(7,566 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)Going to town on anyone.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)I still don't understand what he was trying to say.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Raven123
(4,714 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ritapria
(1,812 posts)What was he talking about ?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Mr.Bill
(24,103 posts)to Trump every time he says anything.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,110 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)enough to hand him a victory over Biden or why go to the trouble he has to attack Biden?
Biden has consistently, from launch, brought the fight to Trump in a way no other candidate has.
Doubt Trump would even debate Biden.
Biden can talk circles around him on FP. He did a pretty good job too challenging Warren this last debate. Biden has wide appeal nationally. His natural likability will shine next to fat boys natural ugly.
Hoping Warren changes her M4All stance if she does go forward because Trump will clobber her with that alone, much less the twenty five other investment intensive plans she has tied herself to.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Perseus
(4,341 posts)In my opinion, republicans want Biden, they know they can exploit his gaffes, and who knows what else they have in the bag.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)that Trump would have mounted an all out campaign to undermine Bidens candidacy, going to the
extent of committing impeachable offenses, if he did not fear running against him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
maxsolomon
(32,975 posts)Biden graduated High School in 1960 (educated guess). When he gets folksy, he gets 1950s folksy. S&H Green Stamps & Hi-Fi Turntables folksy.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)I don't find it folksy, I find it profoundly disturbing, and completely out of touch.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TryLogic
(1,721 posts)1960 most likely correct. He is one year older than I am, and I graduated in 1961.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts).....don't know why anyone would.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(11,953 posts)Last time it was about the record player.
Yes, a half dozen words can matter. Sometimes your opponent only needs one line to capitalize on.
And btw, the rest of the answer wasn't such a great model of clarity either. See post #42.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oldsoftie
(12,410 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TryLogic
(1,721 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
oldsoftie
(12,410 posts)bernie isnt going to win, so he's out. Regardless of where the polls place him now. Barring some major issue, its either Biden or Warren IMO
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
trueblue2007
(17,138 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(11,953 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(10,811 posts)you wouldn't need to worry about his unscripted moments. Joe Biden has more knowledge about how government works and what we need to do to heal our relationships abroad than Trump has in his itty-bitty fingers.
I have absolute faith that Joe Biden will be true to his word: Beat Trump like a drum and then kick him to the curb where he belongs.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)The lashing out from one candidates supporters after a really bad night is kind of funny. To be clear, I'm leaning toward that candidate that had a bad night.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CTyankee
(63,768 posts)I'm sure his staff did a when they heard it...
That and his ill chosen way of dealing with Warren's CFPB must be driving his staff nuts...
That said, he is infinitely better than who he'll face if he is our candidate. I will happily go to the polls on Election Day 2020 to vote for him if he is our candidate. But please, Joe, try harder to work on this, if you can, OK?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tirebiter
(2,520 posts)They dont work. The countries that adopted the idea in the 90s have since dropped it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oldsoftie
(12,410 posts)You cannot raise the money all these plans cost by simply raising taxes on what passes for the "wealthy". EVERYONE has to pay more, or start paying to begin with. We have SO MUCH untaxed income out there. Nobody wants to believe it & nobody wants to try to tax it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stonecutter357
(12,682 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(11,953 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stonecutter357
(12,682 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(11,953 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stonecutter357
(12,682 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(11,953 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stonecutter357
(12,682 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
evertonfc
(1,713 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
fallrey
(36 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
oldsoftie
(12,410 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)if she cant even admit taxes are going up for all the things shes promising.
Im not that keen on Biden, but he would do much better in general election.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Response to thesquanderer (Original post)
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blm
(112,919 posts)Just like millions of other American families they had a lore that went back to a native ancestor.
Is everyone lying or just guilty of believing family stories they had no reason to question. Especially in a state like Oklahoma where the majority of the people believe they have native ancestry.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OldRed2450
(710 posts)Never, not once did I believe it was enough to list in school documents or even talk about! She didn't know anyone or commune with anyone in her family that was Native American since her DNA said it was 6 to 10 generations ago.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(112,919 posts)further, no one has ever claimed that she was hired for being Native American. That is a lie that some people ARE comfortable repeating, though.
Ironic.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Response to blm (Reply #54)
OldRed2450 This message was self-deleted by its author.
blm
(112,919 posts)John Kerry always believed he was part Irish. His mother didnt tell him his fathers father was hiding his Jewish ancestry from bigotry of the day and later became a Catholic. He committed suicide later in life. The family would never talk about it and everyone assumed they had Irish ancestry. Kerry was in his 60s when he learned the truth. If Republicans labeled him a liar for it, would you condemn him for all the years he believed he had Irish ancestry?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OldRed2450
(710 posts)I think that's enough.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
aidbo
(2,328 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
oldsoftie
(12,410 posts)Although i have a problem with the 40% capital gains rate. Long term gains should be taxed at a lower rate. Short term already is taxed at the regular income rate
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
aidbo
(2,328 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
oldsoftie
(12,410 posts)Bernie did the same thing; asked a question about health care and changes the subject to climate change
They all do it. Always have. Politicians!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
doc03
(35,144 posts)sometimes, are there discount coupons for stocks? I'll have to keep an eye out for them. Maybe I can get a 10% off coupon for AT&T stock.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jcgoldie
(11,582 posts)Trump is sheer nonsense all the time. Putting a candidate up there on stage with him who talks in word salad because he seems to be rushing or cannot maintain a clear train of thought would seem to lessen that advantage considerably.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pattyloutwo
(279 posts)Like he had practiced the lines beforehand, got mixed up, then ditched it mid-sentence, but Id have to watch it again to check. I think it feels like these comments are attacks on him for Biden supporters, but I am concerned that hes not up for the rigor of presidency.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
oasis
(49,150 posts)Is "dig" still in use?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
treestar
(82,383 posts)will "go to town" on anyone else. Or "hammer" anyone in a debate. Donnie's words are a salad.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(143,998 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden