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demmiblue

(36,712 posts)
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 07:38 AM Oct 2019

Hunter Biden Steps Down from Chinese Board Amid Trump Attacks

Hunter Biden is stepping down from the board of a Chinese-backed private equity company and promising to forego all foreign work if his father, former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden, is elected president in 2020.

After months of keeping a relatively low-profile as President Donald Trump leveled a barrage of unsubstantiated accusations of corruption at him, the younger Biden is publicly vowing to avoid any conflict of interest.

According to a statement released on his behalf by his lawyer George Mesires, Biden said he’ll resign at the end of the month from the management company of a private equity fund that’s backed by Chinese state-owned entities. He also pledged that he wouldn’t work for any foreign-owned companies or serve on their boards during a potential Biden administration. He reiterated that he never discussed his business activities with his father.
Hunter and Joe Biden

“Hunter always understood that his father would be guided, entirely and unequivocally, by established U.S. policy, regardless of its effects on Hunter’s professional interests,” the statement said. “He never anticipated the barrage of false charges against both him and his father by the President of the United States.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-13/hunter-biden-steps-down-from-chinese-board-in-bid-to-fight-back?srnd=premium

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Hunter Biden Steps Down from Chinese Board Amid Trump Attacks (Original Post) demmiblue Oct 2019 OP
Trump will ATTACK no matter what..... ProudMNDemocrat Oct 2019 #1
Attacking Bidens children metroins Oct 2019 #2
"They're Worse" Just Makes Americans Cynical About Politics - And We Lose DrFunkenstein Oct 2019 #3
+1 Martin Eden Oct 2019 #7
Trump Is The Master of Muddied Waters DrFunkenstein Oct 2019 #8
Martin Eden You ask WHY. IMHO the Dems Never made it a short bonniebgood Oct 2019 #24
If you leave it at "They are worse" then it would not go anywhere, but... Perseus Oct 2019 #10
Trump's Daddy Gave Him $413 Million To Be a "Self-Made" Man DrFunkenstein Oct 2019 #14
Well, ALL reality shows are scams. Very little "reality". oldsoftie Oct 2019 #17
"I also do not think Hunter Biden is a good person." I agree with your statement, he has the history Perseus Oct 2019 #12
Agree. cwydro Oct 2019 #15
What I found was Andy823 Oct 2019 #32
Seriously F'd up...What Hunter Biden did or didn't do is no ones business. Some do Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #38
I sort of think people who sit in judgement on people who have had drug issue and mental health Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #42
Wish the reason was treatment of HK protestors Sienna86 Oct 2019 #4
Dumb, should stay there treestar Oct 2019 #5
And yet .. Jared and Ivanka ... ananda Oct 2019 #6
See Reply #3 DrFunkenstein Oct 2019 #9
Double Standard; djacq Oct 2019 #11
This is how Trump maintains the appearance of 'winning' tman Oct 2019 #13
Better late than not at all BeyondGeography Oct 2019 #16
Probably Should Have Listened To Chris Heinz in The First Place DrFunkenstein Oct 2019 #20
From the little that I have seen of him, Hunter Biden doesn't Blue_true Oct 2019 #34
Too many judgmental comments in this thread IMO OKNancy Oct 2019 #18
This is a discussion board. cwydro Oct 2019 #19
Everyone knows about it OKNancy Oct 2019 #21
I actually didn't know about it until I read that article this year. cwydro Oct 2019 #22
So why help the right Skidmore Oct 2019 #33
I feel the same way this is why we lose and it has to end. Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #41
Trump used Bill's past woman issues against Hillary. Blue_true Oct 2019 #35
Another Hillary like email redux, with the same media cheerleaders still_one Oct 2019 #27
They seriously should be ashamed to help the right wing...disgusting. Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #39
tRump add new meaning to the term SCVDem Oct 2019 #23
Maybe just Maybe if the Dems went after Trump sons FIRST this Biden thing would have bonniebgood Oct 2019 #25
WTF?? sellitman Oct 2019 #26
Because IOKIYAR. Nay Oct 2019 #29
+1000. He should NOT have resigned until ecstatic Oct 2019 #37
If this bullshit puts Biden out of the race, those Biden supporters most likely won't be backing still_one Oct 2019 #28
I can't speak for others OKNancy Oct 2019 #30
Good choice Nancy l. I really hope the press doesn't do what they did d to Hillary to Biden still_one Oct 2019 #36
I will never back Warren in a primary...in a general yes but not the primary...many of the Biden Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #40
my point, badly made, I think even less Biden supporters would go for Sanders in the primary if Joe still_one Oct 2019 #43
I actually agree with you. I do not see this surge for Warren coming at the expense of Biden...and Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #44
We are pretty much on the same page. A lot of assumptions are being made based on "national polls", still_one Oct 2019 #45
And in the report I watched on MSNBC - not a single reference to the Trump spawn nt eleny Oct 2019 #31
 

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,321 posts)
1. Trump will ATTACK no matter what.....
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 07:41 AM
Oct 2019

Because that is all he has to offer.

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metroins

(2,550 posts)
2. Attacking Bidens children
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:24 AM
Oct 2019

All Biden needs to do is flip the script and attack Trump's children. Zero experience and making deals with foreign countries and indicted Ukrainians.

I also do not think Hunter Biden is a good person.

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DrFunkenstein

(8,745 posts)
3. "They're Worse" Just Makes Americans Cynical About Politics - And We Lose
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:51 AM
Oct 2019

Saying "Well, the Republicans are even worse" is not a winning argument for Democrats in the long run. It just makes Americans feel - with some justification - that the whole system is corrupt.

In the end, this turns people off of politics and makes them not want to turn out for anybody. By depressing the number of voters, this only helps the GOP, who have done a much better job of motivating single-issue voters (anti-abortion, anti-gun restrictions, etc.).

Yes, Trump and the offspring of his three marriages are some of the worst examples of corruption in memory. But we need someone to restore trust in the entire institution of our democracy, which is not a return to a few years ago. A few years ago, lobbyists still wrote the policy agendas, Wall Street still dictated their own regulations.

We need to get the heart of the sickness, not just get rid of the worst symptom.

Take just two minutes flipping through these anti-corruption plans and see if you don't find yourself thinking how much trust would be built into the American people - trust like the one that allowed FDR to help Americans on so many levels.

https://medium.com/@teamwarren/my-plan-to-end-washington-corruption-554c7f01aaa5

That's how Democrats start winning consistently across the country.

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Martin Eden

(12,786 posts)
7. +1
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 09:07 AM
Oct 2019

Rethugs have been disparaging our own government for decades, encouraging cynicism and mistrust.

Why?

So they can make government serve the interests of the oligarchy.

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DrFunkenstein

(8,745 posts)
8. Trump Is The Master of Muddied Waters
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 09:16 AM
Oct 2019

It's one of his go-to mechanisms. He did it very successfully against Clinton, an infinitely better human being that he did his best to drag down to his level. He's done it time and again whenever he is charged with something since he's been in office, too.

Even told Russians we interfere in other countries elections, so they were not so bad.

President Trump told two senior Russian officials in a 2017 Oval Office meeting that he was unconcerned about Moscow’s interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election because the United States did the same in other countries, an assertion that prompted alarmed White House officials to limit access to the remarks to an unusually small number of people, according to three former officials with knowledge of the matter.

The comments, which have not been previously reported, were part of a now-infamous meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, in which Trump revealed highly classified information that exposed a source of intelligence on the Islamic State. He also said during the meeting that firing FBI Director James B. Comey the previous day had relieved “great pressure” on him.

A memorandum summarizing the meeting was limited to a few officials with the highest security clearances in an attempt to keep the president’s comments from being disclosed publicly, according to the former officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive matters.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-told-russian-officials-in-2017-he-wasnt-concerned-about-moscows-interference-in-us-election/2019/09/27/b20a8bc8-e159-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html

Talk about America first!

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bonniebgood

(937 posts)
24. Martin Eden You ask WHY. IMHO the Dems Never made it a short
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 10:39 AM
Oct 2019

sentence/phrase on the branding of Government Money, taxpayer Money, Socialism, welfare, subsidies, etc

"Rethugs have been disparaging our own government for decades, encouraging cynicism and mistrust."

Oligarchy, Anyone who Works or Receives money from the Federal Government> Politicians, President on down is

"Receiving a Socialist Paycheck/Money". It Doesn't make any sense to tear down/destroy your employer.
Politician will lie and cheat to get that 'socialist paycheck' ie power. then tell the powerless, under educated, uneducated that
they should reject socialism.

Every word or phrase should have the word 'socialism in front of it.

Lose your job. No welfare and food stamps for you.
Lose your farm due to tariffs or climate change : Subsidies Good for you.

The Country as a whole need to know what government money does and who receives it.


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Perseus

(4,341 posts)
10. If you leave it at "They are worse" then it would not go anywhere, but...
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 09:20 AM
Oct 2019

Explain why they are worse, make sure you present proof to your audience.

I met a couple of women at a supermarket the other day, sisters, one of them is pro-trump and thinks he is doing a superb job "I mean, the economy...", the other one is horrified at how her sister thinks. So I presented all the facts to the pro-trumper, told her to stop watching fox news, at which of course she said "I also watch CNN", so I said, "I bet 80% of your watching is on fox news, right, and maybe more", she said "well yes, but...". At this point I started explaining why "the economy" is not trump's economy but one left by Obama, and how trump is destroying the economy and how we are heading to a recession, then I went through a list of crimes and misdemeanors, as well as about the families on the border, the indictments, the people already in jail, etc. It is impossible to list all the wrongdoings from this administration in fifteen minutes or less, but the point is you cannot just say "they are worst", you have to take the time to explain why.

The pro-trumper sister looks at me all this time with deer under the light eyes, but I think I may have given her some food for thought, her sister promised that she was and would continue to work on her.

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DrFunkenstein

(8,745 posts)
14. Trump's Daddy Gave Him $413 Million To Be a "Self-Made" Man
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 09:40 AM
Oct 2019

I tell people that virtually every business deal Trump touched turned to poop, and only his father's $413 Million faucet of tax-dodging cash infusions kept Trump from being a comic footnote in the history of real estate.
---

'What We Did Was a Scam': The Apprentice Creators Give Behind the Scenes Reveal of Trump's Show

“What we did, that was a scam,” says producer Bill Pruitt. “That was an entertainment.”

Pruitt describes Trump’s real office within New York’s Trump Tower as dated, so the show built the boardroom where Trump uttered the now famous line “You’re Fired!” The famous boardroom was a set based on the classy, high-powered office portrayed in the movie Network.

“If you walked around Trump’s actual office in Trump Tower you’d see the wood’s chipped, and what’s that smell?” says Pruitt in the film. “It wasn’t the empire we were going to have to sell to people. We needed to gussy it up a bit. And we did.”
...
The New York gossip columnist AJ Benza recalls that Trump gave him dirt on the Manhattan nightlife scene in exchange for labeling him a billionaire.

“He wanted to be paid back in a particular way, regardless of what you mentioned,” says Benza in the film. “He never really cared as long as you said the word ‘billionaire.’ “

The reality, the film contends, is that by the early 1990s, The Trump Organization was facing over $3 billion of debt and its three Atlantic City casinos went bankrupt; in the following years leading to The Apprentice, Trump “was a man in trouble.”

“We wanted to show people that Donald Trump is not a good businessman when it comes to building a company and managing a company,” Stevens tells PEOPLE, “and I wanted to say how how scary it is that he is running the country because he doesn’t do due diligence on any of his deals.”

https://people.com/politics/apprentice-creators-donald-trump-scam/

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oldsoftie

(12,376 posts)
17. Well, ALL reality shows are scams. Very little "reality".
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 09:55 AM
Oct 2019

Nail him on the things that REALLY matter

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Perseus

(4,341 posts)
12. "I also do not think Hunter Biden is a good person." I agree with your statement, he has the history
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 09:28 AM
Oct 2019

I hope people do their due diligence to read about Hunter Biden and be objective about what he has done.

"The Navy Reserve discharged Vice President Joe Biden's son Hunter this year after he tested positive for cocaine, U.S. officials confirmed."

Now, I have no doubt that trump's children are even worst, and the truth about all of them should come out, it is up to the Democrats to take the mask off all the GOP crooks,that includes Melania and the trump children.

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cwydro

(51,308 posts)
15. Agree.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 09:45 AM
Oct 2019

I can’t remember which magazine did a piece on him, maybe the New Yorker, but it wasn’t pretty.

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Andy823

(11,495 posts)
32. What I found was
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 04:00 PM
Oct 2019

He was discharged from the Navy Reserve in 2014. You might want to check that out before you say it was this year.

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Demsrule86

(68,217 posts)
38. Seriously F'd up...What Hunter Biden did or didn't do is no ones business. Some do
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 09:45 PM
Oct 2019

Trump's work for him...If he wins in 20, they will regret this.

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Demsrule86

(68,217 posts)
42. I sort of think people who sit in judgement on people who have had drug issue and mental health
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 09:51 PM
Oct 2019

issues are not very good people...not you of course.

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Sienna86

(2,147 posts)
4. Wish the reason was treatment of HK protestors
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:52 AM
Oct 2019

Even though he’s not the candidate it’s not a good look.

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treestar

(82,383 posts)
5. Dumb, should stay there
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 09:03 AM
Oct 2019

blatantly as Donnie Dotard does; that looks like admitting it is wrong, at least to Deplorables and Dummies.

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ananda

(28,758 posts)
6. And yet .. Jared and Ivanka ...
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 09:04 AM
Oct 2019

This whole thing stinks!

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DrFunkenstein

(8,745 posts)
9. See Reply #3
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 09:20 AM
Oct 2019

That's precisely the sentiment that allows the GOP to run a country where they have so little support on the actual issues, let alone the revolving door of lobbyists and Wall Street execs dictating the regulations that need to follow.

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tman

(983 posts)
13. This is how Trump maintains the appearance of 'winning'
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 09:32 AM
Oct 2019

He will only use this move as proof of how right he was.

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BeyondGeography

(39,226 posts)
16. Better late than not at all
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 09:50 AM
Oct 2019

Should have cleared the decks on this before Joe announced. Now it looks like caving.

On the plus side, it has the healthy effect of freeing any candidate who so desires to say sitting on the boards of foreign co’s will not be ok in their Administration for children of the President and VP without being accused of slamming Biden.

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DrFunkenstein

(8,745 posts)
20. Probably Should Have Listened To Chris Heinz in The First Place
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 10:15 AM
Oct 2019

The appearance of a conflict has been nothing but a headache for Hunter's father, which is why Heinz parted ways and wrote to the State Department that he had no part in any of it when Hunter sent out a press release declaring that he joined the board of a natural gas company in a country struggling with corruption.

Heinz knew that Kerry would have problems with an appearance of conflict and Kerry probably would have to recuse himself from personal negotiations - an impossibility for a Secretary of State.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
34. From the little that I have seen of him, Hunter Biden doesn't
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 04:59 PM
Oct 2019

seem to think through things the way his late brother did.

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OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
18. Too many judgmental comments in this thread IMO
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 10:08 AM
Oct 2019

1. Hunter is not running for anything
2. Repeating RW talking points is not a good look
3. Hunter lost is sister and mother in a car accident. I'm sure that caused a lot of pain. He goes to Georgetown, then Yale law and gets
his JD, but his brother Beau is the golden boy.
4. He has a drug problem like so many others in this country, but he did kick it.
5. After his brother dies, he forms a relationship with his brother's widow. I notice people are avoiding talking about that.
It's totally natural to turn to the other person who is experiencing such grief. I know that when my husband died, his brother was the
one who comforted me more than any other person. He felt the death intensely as did I.

So, feel real good about yourself for making all these negative comments. I hope nothing bad happens in your life.

Oh.. and Hunter Biden is not running for President... again, just a reminder.

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cwydro

(51,308 posts)
19. This is a discussion board.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 10:13 AM
Oct 2019

The Hunter thing is in the news whether we like it or not. People are going to discuss.

Interestingly, you’re the the only one to bring up his relationship with Beau’s wife.

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OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
21. Everyone knows about it
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 10:15 AM
Oct 2019

it's no secret.
I'm discussing too. I put IMO in the subject line.

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cwydro

(51,308 posts)
22. I actually didn't know about it until I read that article this year.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 10:26 AM
Oct 2019

I didn’t even know about the Navy drug thing. I guess he just wasn’t on my radar.

I feel bad for Joe; his son’s misdeeds should have nothing to do with him. But the other side is going to use any dirt they can find.

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Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
33. So why help the right
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 04:48 PM
Oct 2019

make it an issue.

I'm very serious when I say that any other campaign which helps feed another family of our Democratic leaders into the Republican smear machine will not receive my help. I'm set one with this sort of thing. It's been going on for decades and it needs to stop.

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Demsrule86

(68,217 posts)
41. I feel the same way this is why we lose and it has to end.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 09:49 PM
Oct 2019
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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
35. Trump used Bill's past woman issues against Hillary.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 05:04 PM
Oct 2019

What woman is responsible for her husband cheating on her?

But that is what Trump does, he has no moral core, so any weakness is cause for an attack, even if Trump is guilty of worse, and the object of his attacks totally blameless.

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still_one

(91,807 posts)
27. Another Hillary like email redux, with the same media cheerleaders
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 11:04 AM
Oct 2019
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Demsrule86

(68,217 posts)
39. They seriously should be ashamed to help the right wing...disgusting.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 09:46 PM
Oct 2019
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SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
23. tRump add new meaning to the term
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 10:26 AM
Oct 2019

Bully Pulpit!

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bonniebgood

(937 posts)
25. Maybe just Maybe if the Dems went after Trump sons FIRST this Biden thing would have
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 10:52 AM
Oct 2019

never come up. But No, the Dems have principles that you should not go after the candidate children,
Republicans have NO problem with that. Hunter Biden Does not work in the Government Ivanka does.
WEAK PRINCIPLES IMO.

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sellitman

(11,591 posts)
26. WTF??
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 10:59 AM
Oct 2019

Why does Hunter Biden have a different set of Standards attached to him then Trump's children have attached to them?

Am I mad? This is insane.

If Hunter Biden is willing to leave his company position then I would expect Trump's children to do the same.

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Nay

(12,051 posts)
29. Because IOKIYAR.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 11:54 AM
Oct 2019

"It's OK if you are Republican."

It's also why I thought that Biden would be a less-than-stellar candidate -- he doesn't know how to handle Republicans. He should have gotten Hunter out of that gas company WAY BEFORE he announced his candidacy. That he did not do that shows that he just can't see how Republicans (and Trump in particular) work and is unable to anticipate and counter their nonsense.

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ecstatic

(32,532 posts)
37. +1000. He should NOT have resigned until
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 06:01 PM
Oct 2019

Biden's inauguration. This move also lent some legitimacy to trump's lies and smears. Bad move.

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still_one

(91,807 posts)
28. If this bullshit puts Biden out of the race, those Biden supporters most likely won't be backing
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 11:25 AM
Oct 2019

Sanders in the primaries, but Warren, at least that is where I would bet


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OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
30. I can't speak for others
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 01:45 PM
Oct 2019

but assuming she is still in, I'll go for Kamala.

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still_one

(91,807 posts)
36. Good choice Nancy l. I really hope the press doesn't do what they did d to Hillary to Biden
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 05:27 PM
Oct 2019
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Demsrule86

(68,217 posts)
40. I will never back Warren in a primary...in a general yes but not the primary...many of the Biden
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 09:48 PM
Oct 2019

folks I know feel the same way.

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still_one

(91,807 posts)
43. my point, badly made, I think even less Biden supporters would go for Sanders in the primary if Joe
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 10:39 PM
Oct 2019

wasn’t in the primary. Also, Biden isn’t going to drop out, and many are ignoring Super Tuesday where at this point in time I think in the blue states votes will be split, and red and purple ones Biden will take the bulk of the delegates, at least this point in time

Many are Judging things by national polls, and that isn’t how delegates are chosen. It is state by state



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Demsrule86

(68,217 posts)
44. I actually agree with you. I do not see this surge for Warren coming at the expense of Biden...and
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:11 AM
Oct 2019

for all the favorable media she has enjoyed,she is at best tied in national polls which tilt in favor of progressives, but there are more moderate Democrats than progressive Democrats, and I believe Biden will be the nominee...Hunter Biden did well yesterday too...he was on something. Many of us including me have dealt with mental illness and drug addiction in our families...so we understand. Those who try to use this to pump up Warren are going to lose votes. I think she made a big error in not supporting Biden through this...it cemented my opinion not to back her in a primary...sure a general yes but not a primary. I do not believe she will win the electoral college.

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still_one

(91,807 posts)
45. We are pretty much on the same page. A lot of assumptions are being made based on "national polls",
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:22 AM
Oct 2019

and in my view a lot of the Democratic candidates are making promises that have very little chance in this environment at this time, but they sure make "good sound bites", but very little details are given




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eleny

(46,166 posts)
31. And in the report I watched on MSNBC - not a single reference to the Trump spawn nt
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 01:47 PM
Oct 2019
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