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Tue Oct 8, 2019, 02:46 PM

 

Bernie's people at Jacobin started the Liz Warren pregnancy story....

...and it was then picked up by right-wing Free Beacon.


Despicable.


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Reply Bernie's people at Jacobin started the Liz Warren pregnancy story.... (Original post)
scheming daemons Oct 2019 OP
irisblue Oct 2019 #1
BeyondGeography Oct 2019 #5
HerbChestnut Oct 2019 #2
George II Oct 2019 #15
aikoaiko Oct 2019 #3
BeyondGeography Oct 2019 #6
ritapria Oct 2019 #9
LanternWaste Oct 2019 #11
aikoaiko Oct 2019 #26
ismnotwasm Oct 2019 #4
BannonsLiver Oct 2019 #7
HerbChestnut Oct 2019 #10
BannonsLiver Oct 2019 #36
Cha Oct 2019 #20
BlueMTexpat Oct 2019 #8
BlueMississippi Oct 2019 #12
George II Oct 2019 #13
peggysue2 Oct 2019 #14
Cha Oct 2019 #19
peggysue2 Oct 2019 #30
Cha Oct 2019 #31
Cha Oct 2019 #16
itsrobert Oct 2019 #17
dalton99a Oct 2019 #42
Celerity Oct 2019 #18
Eric J in MN Oct 2019 #21
Celerity Oct 2019 #22
Eric J in MN Oct 2019 #23
OilemFirchen Oct 2019 #24
Celerity Oct 2019 #25
Eric J in MN Oct 2019 #28
TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #29
Celerity Oct 2019 #33
Eric J in MN Oct 2019 #37
Tarheel_Dem Oct 2019 #38
TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #39
Celerity Oct 2019 #34
Cha Oct 2019 #32
Celerity Oct 2019 #35
INdemo Oct 2019 #27
Gothmog Oct 2019 #40
trueblue2007 Oct 2019 #41
Johnny2X2X Oct 2019 #43
betsuni Oct 2019 #44
elocs Oct 2019 #45
BlueWI Oct 2019 #46
Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2019 #47

Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 02:49 PM

1. You got a citation? Thx

 

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Response to irisblue (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 03:00 PM

5. NYT reported this today

 

In a post on Twitter last week, Meagan Day, a writer for the socialist magazine Jacobin, drew attention to an interview Ms. Warren gave in 2007 in which she recalled the end of her teaching career and did not describe being forced out because she was pregnant, instead suggesting she left teaching because she lacked the education courses she needed.

https://www.mediaite.com/news/watch-elizabeth-warren-lied-about-losing-public-school-teaching-job-because-she-was-visibly-pregnant/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


It was kicking around a lot of RW sites last week. Not sure if they were the first.
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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 02:49 PM

2. Watch out, Bernie's everywhere.

 

So far, he's been behind the Biden touchy-feely nonsense in the spring, a plot to kneecap Hillary Clinton in the 2016 general, an attempt to "disarm" the DNC, and now this. What a rascal!

Ghosts and shadows everywhere...
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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #2)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 03:43 PM

15. Cutesy, but remember that woman that accused Biden was one of Sanders' TOP surrogates....

 

...in 2016, he's advocating limiting the financing of the DNC if he becomes the nominee, and Jacobin might as well be BS' house publication. I don't know about that thing about Clinton, unless you're referring to his lukewarm support of her during the general election campaign and ~six week disappearance after the Convention.

Any of this NOT true?
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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 02:51 PM

3. You sure it wasn't Mediate.com a couple of days before the Free Beacon.

 

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #3)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 03:02 PM

6. And that was written by Tommy Christopher who reportedly supports Harris

 

Per multiple posters on Kos at least. There’s a clip of him on TYT where he calls himself center left; he’s definitely not a RW source.
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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #6)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 03:25 PM

9. Here, Here

 

Great Post , If a negative story emerges always blame Bernie
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Response to ritapria (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 03:27 PM

11. No... the go-to culprit is always the media. We're learning that from Bernie-surrogates.

 

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #11)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 07:39 PM

26. Biden supporters have certainly mastered that technique.

 

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 02:56 PM

4. The Jacobin is no friend of Warren

 

This From a five minute search, and as usual I find it a..less than honorable.. source of opinion, and information, but I didn’t find that. I’ll look into it though
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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 03:05 PM

7. That sounds about right.

 

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #7)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 03:26 PM

10. Definition of confirmation bias:

 

From Wikipedia:

Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that affirms one's prior beliefs or hypotheses.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #10)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 11:18 PM

36. Irony is dead.

 

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #7)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 06:00 PM

20. Looks like it is.. so shocking I know..

 




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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 03:17 PM

8. #$@!!+*&

 

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 03:30 PM

12. Is anyone surprised?

 

These are David Sirota's tactics. David Sirota is equivalent to Lee Atwater, Karl Rove and Roger Stone.
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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 03:36 PM

13. Jacobin is about as biased toward one person as I've ever seen in a "publication".

 

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 03:39 PM

14. Just popped the site up

 

Second article is about how Bernie Sanders' Climate Change program will work and Elizabeth Warren's proposal will fail. Main criticism? The ideological divide, basically Warren's commitment to market solutions and capitalism.

The publication appears to be pro-Bernie all the way. Did the rumor about Warren start there? Don't know. But with a quick peck around, it wouldn't surprise me.
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Response to peggysue2 (Reply #14)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 05:15 PM

19. "They say they got it from Jacobin!"

 




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Response to Cha (Reply #19)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 08:52 PM

30. You're right. I just read the small print and . . .

 

Read a number of Meagan Day's tweets and articles. She considers Warren a danger because too many people see her as a viable alternative to Bernie, interchangeable. Her mission is to convince people Bernie is the only one worthy of a vote and openly refers to herself and friends as 'socialists.' This tweet from a follower made my eyes snap open:

"There's plenty of money around. Workers need to rise up and take it."

Yup, I'm sure that'll work out without a hitch.

According to Ms. Day, Warren is making backroom deals with DNC leadership, letting them know that she's not looking to knock over the applecart and/or upset the establishment. She's basically blowing socialist/populist smoke for political expediency.

Had a feeling I was reading the Left's version of the fever swamps. Yikes!

No wonder Hillary was demonized.



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Response to peggysue2 (Reply #30)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:07 PM

31. I'm the Exact Oppostie of

 

Meagan Day.. I'd much rather have EW in than BS and even more than those two.. Joe Biden.

Nice socialist tweet.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 03:57 PM

16. Shocking.

 

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 04:15 PM

17. Bernie's people also pushed out stuff on Beto

 

Earlier this year.
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Response to itsrobert (Reply #17)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 08:17 PM

42. +1. Beto had to be punished for his 'extremely arrogant' act - running in the primary against Bernie

 

Ryan Rosshirt, the vice president of the Austin Young Democrats, supported O’Rourke during the Senate race and even put a bumper sticker on his car. But he’s angered that O’Rourke is running for president, as he thinks the former congressman would have a better shot running for Senate again — and that the party sorely needs to work together to flip as many seats as it can.

“It was an extremely arrogant act, running for president after the career that he’s had,” said Rosshirt, 30. “He hasn’t proved that he could do it.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/they-used-to-be-beto-orourke-fans-but-texans-allegiance-to-him-has-vanished-as-quickly-as-beto-mania/2019/07/12/0444a7da-a405-11e9-b8c8-75dae2607e60_story.html


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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 04:20 PM

18. here is the first RW source I could find, and ITS source is Bernie-bro-ette Meagan Day at Jacobin

 

This RW article came out October 2nd (and is cited on the same day by RW sites) and the Meagan Day tweet came out October 1, before the RW sites picked up on it.

I am not saying that there were not even earlier hit jobs, but all (or most) of the heavy lifters on the RW all source back to this, as far as I can tell. I welcome any further info that shows this to be wrong.


https://jerylbier.blogspot.com/2019/10/elizabeth-warren-fired-from-teaching.html

Elizabeth Warren: Fired From Teaching Job For Being Pregnant, Or For Lacking Qualifications? Story Appears To Change

Editor's Note:

>Ed Morrissey of Hot Air found video of Warren's 2007 interview here. [added 10/7/19]

>Collin Anderson of the Washington Free Beacon found records of county records from the Riverdale Board of Education that directly contradict Warren's claims here. [added 10/7/19]

>Warren finally responded via CBS News on Monday, October 8, 5 days after this article was published. [added 10/8/19]

>Final note: Here's my editorial take on this issue.
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Original article:

- October 02, 2019

During her presidential campaign, Elizabeth Warren often emphasizes education as well as equal opportunities for women in the workplace. Warren tells of her own experience as a young public school teacher, let go from a special needs teaching job by a male principal for being "visibly pregnant." This past May, Warren put it this way when discussing her early teaching career:
“I loved it, and I would probably still be doing it today but back in the day, before unions, the principal, by the time we got to the end of the first year, I was visibly pregnant,” she said. “And the principal did what principals did in those days: they wished you luck, showed you the door, and hired someone else for the job. And there went my dream.”

In an interview twelve years ago, however, Warren told a markedly different version of the circumstances around her termination from her teaching job. (A writer for Jacobin Magazine, Meagan Day, first noted the interview on Tuesday on Twitter. Day is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America and is a Bernie Sanders supporter.)

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 06:21 PM

21. Tommy Christopher of Mediaite

 

...who constantly smears Bernie Sanders, wrote the first major article on Elizabeth Warren giving differing explanations for why she was a public school teacher for only one year.

https://www.mediaite.com/news/watch-elizabeth-warren-lied-about-losing-public-school-teaching-job-because-she-was-visibly-pregnant/
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Response to Eric J in MN (Reply #21)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 06:56 PM

22. No he did not write the first article, this blatantly false, sorry. I found the Sanders camp pushing

 

it 4 days before.

Your article is from October 5th, and here is a Sanders backer, Meagan Day, pushing it on October 1st, and the RW picked it up (citing the Sanderite) on October 2.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287303161#post18
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Response to Celerity (Reply #22)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 07:01 PM

23. Meagan Day wrote a tweet about it, not an article. NT

 

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Response to Eric J in MN (Reply #23)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 07:21 PM

24. Celerity didn't say anything about an article from Day.

 

You're wrong, and really ought to admit it.
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Response to Eric J in MN (Reply #23)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 07:29 PM

25. look at the rest of my post, you are simply wrong, and until you can show me a source from before

 

October 1st, it certainly looks like it was the Sanders camp who started this, as shown by the RW article CITING her (Day, the Sanderite) tweet the next day (October 2nd), and before your article, which is from October 4th.
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Response to Celerity (Reply #25)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 08:39 PM

28. Are you calling a blog post a major article? NT

 

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Response to Eric J in MN (Reply #28)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 08:51 PM

29. I see what you are saying.

 

The timeline here shows that someone connected to Sanders appears to have started the smear but they didn’t write an article. Correct?
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Response to TidalWave46 (Reply #29)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:12 PM

33. I never said article,I showed where the RW major sites used that Bernie-backer tweet as the original

 

source. The poster you are replying to is playing spin spin spin games and I showed them to be completely wrong. Look at my posts.

starting here

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287303161#post18
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Response to TidalWave46 (Reply #29)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 01:34 AM

37. Yes, except I wouldn't call it a smear to point out

 

..Elizabeth Warren’s contradictory explanations of how her one year as a public school teacher ended.
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Response to Eric J in MN (Reply #37)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 01:47 AM

38. So instead of saying I'm sorry, I was wrong you instead move on to rationalizing? That's just...

 

wrong. You got caught trying to spread disinformation, and probably would have gotten away with it were it not for a couple of keen eyed DU'ers.
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Response to Eric J in MN (Reply #37)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 07:02 AM

39. If it's not a smear then why put in the effort...

 

To show it might have been started by the Sanders group but right wing nut jobs were the ones who ran an article of the Sanders backers info. It’s a point with extremely limited meaning. A fact check that doesn’t change context. A wasted effort.
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Response to Eric J in MN (Reply #28)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:18 PM

34. give it up, that 'blog post' is by a major RW writer and was used the SAME day by another major RW

 

site, the odious Ben Shapiro's Daily Wire.

Bernie booster MEAGAN DAY SLUNG THE DIRT ON WARREN on October 1st, then the RW picked it up and was running with it the very next day, NOT, as you tried to falsely claim, starting on October 4th. The original source (until you show me an earlier one) WAS the Jacobin writer and also DSA member, Meagan Day.

The RW site says this tweet was the source in their article.





https://www.dailywire.com/news/warren-said-she-was-once-fired-for-being-pregnant-thats-not-what-she-said-before




The 'blogger' you are trying to dismiss is The Washington Examiner's Jeryl Bier





If you had followed my link you would have seen this already.

You are wrong, I am right. Until you show me a pre October 1st source for this RW-run-with smear, it is all on the Jacobin crowd via their writer Meagan Day, who kicked it all off.

Do you honestly think that the RW doesn't follow the extreme left's attack dogs?? The extreme left are a gold mine for smears and dirt on the other, non-Sanders Democratic candidates.






OCTOBER 1st

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Response to Eric J in MN (Reply #21)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:10 PM

32. No you don't get to "kill the Messenger"..

 

Tommy Christopher is an excellent journalist.. Just because he doesn't like Sanders.. a lot of people don't.
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Response to Cha (Reply #32)

Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:21 PM

35. not only that but they are trying to cover up for DSA/Jacobin Bernie booster Meagan Day starting the

 

hit job days before that article they are falsely trying to fob off as the start of the Warren smear.

see my multiple posts in this thread

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Wed Oct 9, 2019, 06:46 PM

40. Who is surprised by this?

 

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 08:10 PM

41. Just like in 2016 they lied about Hillary. Untrustworthy man

 

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 08:25 PM

43. Bernie fans been trashing Warren for a week solid

 

In my Facebook.
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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 08:52 PM

44. K&R

 

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Thu Oct 10, 2019, 11:46 PM

46. Ok.

 

Bernie is bad. His surrogates are worse.
DU is DU.
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