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Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:41 AM

 

Does it seem like Joe has taken haymaker after haymaker and is stil standing?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Marianne Williamson

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Reply Does it seem like Joe has taken haymaker after haymaker and is stil standing? (Original post)
DemocratSinceBirth Sep 11 OP
Dr Hobbitstein Sep 11 #1
qazplm135 Sep 11 #2
TheCowsCameHome Sep 11 #3
blm Sep 11 #4
DemocratSinceBirth Sep 11 #5
blm Sep 11 #8
stonecutter357 Sep 11 #6
Skya Rhen Sep 11 #7
Thekaspervote Sep 11 #9
The Mouth Sep 11 #10
NYMinute Sep 11 #11
emmaverybo Sep 11 #12
Gothmog Sep 11 #13

Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:56 AM

1. No. nt

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 09:03 AM

2. not really, no

 

he's been attacked no more than any other front-runner and none of the attacks have been particularly worse.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Kamala Harris

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 09:15 AM

3. No, not really

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Kamala Harris

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 09:17 AM

4. I think the exchanges have been pretty mild this cycle.

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Elizabeth Warren

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Response to blm (Reply #4)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 09:19 AM

5. I'm referring mostly to Trump and the right.

 

According to them Biden is alive in name only..
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Marianne Williamson

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #5)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 09:33 AM

8. That's still pretty mild since it's just a silly approach.

 

There isn’t anyone with a brain cell that doesn’t know Biden would leave Trump 90yards behind in a 100yard jog.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Elizabeth Warren

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 09:29 AM

6. let's go Joe !

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 09:29 AM

7. Joe has been relentlessly bashed by the media especially over the last month yet he's still surging.

 

This proves the solid support that Joe has, despite the constant attempts to try to bring him down...
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden

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Response to Skya Rhen (Reply #7)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 10:52 AM

9. This!

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 10:55 AM

10. To a degree, yes.

 

He has his base.

Moderates.

I know several folks, maybe a lot, who consider him the only 'Real' Democrat, and the rest of the candidates too far left. So I think he has a floor beyond which he won't sink unless something extremely scandalous or stupid comes to light.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Andrew Yang

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 11:05 AM

11. Joe Biden -- the 46th POTUS

 

Deal with it

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Beto O'Rourke

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 02:33 PM

12. After Linda Flores, attacks on Biden were some of the worst. They ranged from calling him out as

 

a lecher, to his mocking “consent” with an inoffensive and self-effacing joke, to his being a pedophile who harmed children irrevocably by public displays of affection.

Although the pedophile claim got no MSM play, the “consent” issue did, and of course, a rehash
of his allegedly humiliating and abusing Anita Hill, ironic in that he arranged for her to be heard despite Republicans wanting to just ram through Thomas, voted against Thomas twice, championed her courage throughout the years, and as transcripts show, was the only committee member to get any licks in on Thomas’s credibility.

These attacks, pervasive on internet news forums, even here at DU, and on his Twitter account, ripped Biden on the very ground he has made a stance on, women’s rights, violence against women. He had also supported #MeToo, though Anita Hill claimed he held back the social-media inspired movement by twenty years,

Actually, when running against Hillary, Obama took the worst attacks, and unfortunately she chimed in on the Reverend Wright garbage. The campaign against Obama was racist in nature, as opposed to that against Hillary or Biden.

Still, MSM’s Biden-bashing fest, begun the day after Harris’s debate coup, was merciless and ridiculously one-sided.

Nonetheless, we need not compare Biden’s ill treatment with any others’ to see that he has got
through and above it thus far. I think he will continue to. A seasoned politician, he knew he would be in for a battle. Unfortunately, the character assassination will continue. He can defend and explain his record. He can have evolved on issues.

But how to counter claims that he is a sexist, racist child molester, and surely these will continue whether helped by MSM or not, it is difficult to say. He can’t do it alone. Supporters must help. We should at least lobby for MSNBC to allow for some Biden support rather than assembling the usual suspects and letting them control a runaway narrative.


If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 04:05 PM

13. Joe Biden's appeal actually isn't a mystery

 




Biden shows reverence for the most popular Democrat around, former president Barack Obama; others find fault in everything from the Affordable Care Act to immigration policy. Biden does not bombard voters with a torrent of multi-part plans; he gives them a few basic positions and defends them. Biden does not campaign from the neck up; he campaigns with his heart on his sleeve. Biden is deeply optimistic; his opponents think Americans are the problem, not Trump. (I don’t suggest that his opponents are wrong, merely that their stance apparently isn’t as popular as they thought.) Biden wants normalcy plus reform; his opponents want a peaceful revolution. Biden knows people want to be heard and seen; his opponents (with the exception of Sen. Kamala D. Harris) don’t fully grasp this. They want to “help," to pepper people with ideas and a to-do list, while Biden takes the time to listen to them. (Think of the well-meaning friend who has a thousand suggestions when you are grieving and you’d rather they just shut up and commiserate.)

This is the grouchy-white-guy-in-the-diner problem all over again. Reporters are blinded by their own age, background, education and geography. Instead of going to West Virginia diners to find the Trump voter, reporters should go talk to the residents of The Villages in Florida, the African American churchgoing ladies and the buttoned-down professionals in the affluent suburbs (the Romney-Clinton voters). These people have endured a noisy, offensive and intrusive presence in the White House. They don’t necessarily want a different noisy, intrusive presence — even one they agree with on substance.

Part of the “mystery” of Biden’s appeal would be solved if the moderators flipped their questions, as one smart Democrat not in the Biden camp put it. Instead of asking Biden or another moderate, “Why aren’t you going with the big, bold idea of Medicare-for-all?,” the moderators might consider asking Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) or Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), “Why blow up Obamacare, and why don’t you trust people to choose Medicare if given the option?” Instead of assuming that extreme proposals are the standard, requiring the moderates to explain why they are such wet blankets, the moderators should press the super-progressives on questions such as: What makes you think that voters want to go through another health-care makeover? Why should poorer people pay for richer people’s health care or subsidize their college debt?

Better yet, ask the candidates to relate the personal story from a voter who moved them the most, or the last voter whose phone number they took so that the candidate could call later, or the most insightful thing they have heard from a voter. It might reveal who is talking at voters and who is listening to them.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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