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Undecided 49%
Kamala Harris16%
Joe Biden8%
Bernie Sanders8%
Elizabeth Warren6%

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:46 PM

 

Need you Help with Understanding the case for Beto.

Three term Congressman, all six years in the minority, is bound not to have much to show for his time in Congress.

He gets bored, runs for the Senate. Democrats everywhere, including me, send him money .... because he's running against Cruz and might have a chance to beat him...

But he loses. Comes close but loses. If he had won, then I would have stood and said... now there's a man who knows how to turn a Red State blue. He's got a future.

But close doesn't count for me. He still lost. He still is a three term Congress person with a thin resume.

Cool guy and all. Policy lightweight.

Why should I even consider him for President of these United States? Can somebody help me out?
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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Response to kennetha (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:50 PM

1. A Democrat who can come that close in Texas..:

 

... against a nationally-known opponent... and who can raise such large sums...

Could be a force at the national level.



None of which changes the fact that the resume is thin - and I wouldn’t previously have considered him a viable nominee.

But then we had Obama (with essentially no executive experience) - followed by Trump. So what the electorate considers a viable resume has clearly shifted.
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Response to kennetha (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:51 PM

2. He could beat Trump. And turn Texas blue.

 

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primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #2)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:40 PM

15. This.

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Beto O'Rourke

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Response to kennetha (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:52 PM

3. Oh and close counts for me. Biden and Beto are the only candidates who can beat Trump

 

n my opinion.
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Response to kennetha (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:52 PM

4. Beto is a breath of fresh air, in Texas. My family in Texas supports him and my niece worked

 

on his campaign.
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Response to kennetha (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:53 PM

5. He'll be fine

 

as VP for Biden or Kamala.
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Response to kennetha (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:53 PM

6. Well, lack of experience is something people will consider,

 

no doubt. Perhaps the presidency, itself, isn't the goal here. So it seems to me, anyhow. There will be a need for a VP nominee, and a presidential primary campaign is a great way to show how you could benefit the presidential nominee.
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Response to MineralMan (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:03 PM

7. I think he can win and being in the house counts.

 

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #7)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:28 PM

12. My problem with Beto and a couple of others as well is this:

 

I believe that by 2021, When the new Democratic President takes over the Presidency, the Government bureaucracy will be in crisis. Many of the Cabinet departments and Science divisions especially, have suffered a brain drain. Lots of people with experience have quit in frustration or have been driven out by petty
partisanship as practiced by the Trumpers installed to drown the Government in the Bathtub.

That is why I think BIden is the answer. No on the job training. Here is a man who knows every function of the Government and can restore confidence in our foreign policy. Even if you do not believe entirely in his stance, our Allies know he can be trusted to deal fairly with them.

I think we are going to need a mechanic who can restore the engine. While I am drawn to the younger candidates, I fear that lack of experience will cause them to depend too heavily on advisers and that has been a recipe for trouble in the past.

Just IMHO.

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Response to Zoonart (Reply #12)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:36 PM

14. I am a Biden supporter myself. But Beto is my second choice as he is smart and I

 

believe he can beat Trump.
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Response to MineralMan (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:16 PM

9. the presidency is the goal

 

He's not attracting the kind of $ he's going to attract in order to set himself up to be Veep.
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Response to kennetha (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:14 PM

8. The number one reason

 

Is that he may be the candidate with the best chance of beating Trump.
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Response to kennetha (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:24 PM

10. The case for him is simple:

 

He came within 2% of beating a Republican in Texas. He would likely have no problem winning Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan.
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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #10)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:32 PM

13. +1. The guy collected a record $80 million, energized millions of voters to the polls

 

and did something remarkable in Texas: Turn Tarrant County blue.

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #13)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:57 PM

17. yep

 

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Response to kennetha (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:25 PM

11. Voters are driven by emotion

 

Time and time again this has been proven true

Use that fact to our advantage

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Response to kennetha (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:43 PM

16. 52-42 favorable rating in that Texas 2018 exit poll

 

That is an amazing number, given everything that was thrown at Beto. Cruz in the same exit poll was 50-48 and Trump was 49-49.

Now translate that 52-42 into states and areas that are more inclined to favor our side, instead of red Texas with its 43% self-identified conservatives.

Beto changed the Texas electorate in a manner than shouldn't be possible in a midterm, which are always more white and conservative than presidential years. Texas was 44% conservatives and 20% liberals in 2016. Now fast forward to Beto and 2018, with 43% conservatives and 22% liberals. That is quietly remarkable. The media did an incompetent job of depicting as much. Arizona is trending our way but it had the typical shift of 41-27 in 2016 to 40-22 in 2018. Andrew Gillum was touted as inspiring our base in Florida. Meanwhile Florida had the standard decline from 36% conservative and 25% liberals in 2016 to 39% conservatives and 22% liberals in 2018. Abrams was similarly touted but Georgia dropped from 22% liberals in 2016 to 20% in 2018, while maintaining 42% conservatives both years.

If you project Beto's midterm results to a presidential year it is very possible that Texas shifts to something like 40% conservatives and 24% liberals in 2020. That wouldn't be enough to carry the state but it would make Texas a legitimate threat to change sides from 8-12 years later. I use the real world timetable and not the magical tomorrow nonsense.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Beto O'Rourke

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