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Wed Aug 14, 2019, 07:45 PM

 

All the negative threads and responses about Bernie Sanders on here fill me with joy.

It means he's doing well in the primary. Have a great evening folks. Vote blue no matter who.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Reply All the negative threads and responses about Bernie Sanders on here fill me with joy. (Original post)
HerbChestnut Aug 14 OP
Eliot Rosewater Aug 14 #1
JoeOtterbein Aug 14 #7
Eliot Rosewater Aug 14 #9
HerbChestnut Aug 14 #10
Agschmid Aug 14 #13
at140 Aug 14 #26
Agschmid Aug 14 #14
JoeOtterbein Aug 14 #17
Gothmog Aug 15 #36
HerbChestnut Aug 14 #8
left-of-center2012 Aug 14 #2
we can do it Aug 14 #3
Me. Aug 14 #4
JoeOtterbein Aug 14 #5
Hassin Bin Sober Aug 14 #6
Uncle Joe Aug 14 #11
HerbChestnut Aug 14 #15
wasupaloopa Aug 14 #12
HerbChestnut Aug 14 #16
JoeOtterbein Aug 14 #18
SidDithers Aug 14 #19
HerbChestnut Aug 14 #20
Autumn Aug 14 #22
SidDithers Aug 14 #25
Thekaspervote Aug 14 #31
SixString Aug 15 #41
Fix The Stupid Aug 15 #56
NYC Liberal Aug 15 #57
Autumn Aug 15 #49
Lordquinton Aug 15 #39
Autumn Aug 14 #21
sheshe2 Aug 14 #23
W_HAMILTON Aug 14 #24
JI7 Aug 14 #27
Hoyt Aug 14 #28
SouthernProgressive Aug 14 #29
Hortensis Aug 15 #43
NYMinute Aug 14 #30
Thekaspervote Aug 14 #32
NYMinute Aug 14 #33
Thekaspervote Aug 14 #34
sheshe2 Aug 14 #35
Gothmog Aug 15 #37
NYMinute Aug 15 #55
Garrett78 Aug 15 #38
RandiFan1290 Aug 15 #40
Hortensis Aug 15 #42
HerbChestnut Aug 15 #45
Hortensis Aug 15 #50
HerbChestnut Aug 15 #51
LanternWaste Aug 15 #44
HerbChestnut Aug 15 #46
LanternWaste Aug 15 #48
HerbChestnut Aug 15 #52
LanternWaste Aug 15 #58
SouthernProgressive Aug 15 #53
MrsCoffee Aug 15 #47
LongtimeAZDem Aug 15 #54
Sugarcoated Aug 15 #59
Gothmog Aug 16 #60

Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 07:47 PM

1. So dividing us is your idea of happiness?

 

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Kamala Harris

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 07:51 PM

7. It's not wrong to want Bernie to win.

 

Everyone wants our vote. They need to prove that they deserve it.
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Response to JoeOtterbein (Reply #7)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 07:57 PM

9. Yeah, so if the candidate chosen doesnt do what YOU want

 

you will punish the rest of us and withold your vote?

Personally NO MATTER who the D is they wont have to prove

SHIT TO ME
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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #9)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 07:59 PM

10. Bit of a stretch there.

 

Pretty sure they were talking about the primary. Please try to be less divisive in the future
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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #10)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:02 PM

13. ...

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Elizabeth Warren

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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #10)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 10:25 PM

26. This --- This --- This

 

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #9)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:02 PM

14. ...

 

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #9)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:11 PM

17. I'm not sure what you are talking about.

 

Are you saying that if I don't support your candidate, I may be feces to you?
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Response to JoeOtterbein (Reply #7)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 12:45 AM

36. Just as it is not wrong for me to hope that sanders fails to get 300 national convention delegates

 

Recent polling have reinforce my hope that sanders will fail to get 300 national convention delegates necessary to put his name into nomination at the National Convention due to the 15% rule. I was a delegate to the Philadelphia convention and saw how the process works. One key item is that under the rules, a candidate cannot be put into nomination without 300 delegates. https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/2020-Call-for-Convention-WITH-Attachments-2.26.19.pdf

Nomination of the Democratic Candidate for President: The Permanent Chair shall receive nominations from the floor for the Democratic candidate for the Office of President of the United
States in the following manner:

a. Requests to nominate a presidential candidate shall be in writing and shall have affixed thereto the written approval of the proposed nominee and the name of the individuals who shall be recognized to make the nominating and seconding speeches on behalf of a presidential candidate and shall be delivered to the Convention Secretary at a location as specified by the Secretary no later than 6:00 p.m. of the day preceding the day designated for the commencement of presidential nominations.

b. Each such request must be accompanied by a petition indicating support for the proposed nominee signed by delegates representing not less than 300 or more than 600 delegate votes, not more than 50 of which may come from one (1) delegation. A delegate may not sign more than one (1) nominating petition for president and for vice president. Pledged and automatic delegates may sign the petition.

If sanders is frozen out of getting delegates in enough states due to the 15% rule and remaining non-Biden delegates are split among several candidates, there is a chance that sanders may not reach 300 threshold Recent polling give me more hope that this is possible.

We will see what happens but my wish is just as possible as your wish.
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Joe Biden

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 07:53 PM

8. Hey, I'm not the one spreading negativity.

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 07:47 PM

2. Same can be said of Harris, etc.

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 07:47 PM

3. Not really. It means we are tired of hypocritical BS.

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 07:48 PM

4. And Do All His Complaining Threads Have The Same Effect?

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 07:49 PM

5. Thanks! Me too. It really makes Bernie seem scary but that just makes some like me...

 

...want to support him!
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 07:51 PM

6. Yep.

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Bernie Sanders

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:00 PM

11. Kicked and recommended.

 

Thanks for the thread HerbChestnut.
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Bernie Sanders

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Response to Uncle Joe (Reply #11)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:07 PM

15. Any time, Uncle Joe.

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:00 PM

12. I think it means some do not like Bernie. At least you

 

donít get a hide for attacking a Dem during primary season.
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Response to wasupaloopa (Reply #12)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:09 PM

16. It's fine to not like a candidate.

 

It's not fine to pile on one particular candidate because...reasons.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #16)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:13 PM

18. +1000!

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:15 PM

19. By that logic, so is Trump...nt

 

Sid
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Response to SidDithers (Reply #19)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:24 PM

20. bErNiE eQuAlS tRuMp!!!1

 

Thanks, Sid.
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Response to SidDithers (Reply #19)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 09:28 PM

22. That's a logic fail. Trump's not running in the Democratic primary. Sanders is. nt

 

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Tom Steyer

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Response to Autumn (Reply #22)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 10:13 PM

25. Meh...

 

the "he's pissing people off, he must be doing something right" is such a tired take.

Trump pisses lots of people off too, doesn't mean he's doing anything right.

Sid
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Response to SidDithers (Reply #25)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:22 PM

31. Nailed that one!

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #25)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 06:18 AM

41. Tired from overuse, no doubt.

 

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6913541

"DU rec for pissing off the right people...nt

Sid"

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=569011
"DU rec for pissing off the right people...nt

Sid"

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7299967
"DU rec for pissing off the right people...nt

Sid"

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7121307
"DU rec for pissing off the right people...nt

Sid"

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Response to SixString (Reply #41)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:42 AM

56. lol... burn. This is a sacred cow here though, be careful. n/t.

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Bernie Sanders

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Response to SixString (Reply #41)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 11:06 AM

57. "I'm glad this is pissing off certain people" ain't the same thing as

 

"pissing off lots of people means they're doing well."
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Pete Buttigieg

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #25)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 09:39 AM

49. Meh...

 

I don't see "he's pissing people off, he must be doing something right" in the OP. There's a lot of he needs to drop out or he's gonna cause Trump to win! or he's not a Dem! He went on Fox... bad!! Until someone else goes on Fox... good. Anything posted here about him really triggers people who don't like him. That's hilarious and that's a reflection on them, not him.
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Response to SidDithers (Reply #19)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 02:58 AM

39. By your logic

 

trump is running in the dem primary
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 09:26 PM

21. Makes sense to me. Thanks for the post.

 

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Tom Steyer

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 09:30 PM

23. Of course they do.NT

 

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Elizabeth Warren

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 09:50 PM

24. Has his misogynistic old fictional writings been brought up yet?

 

If not, then no one is worried about him winning anything.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 10:29 PM

27. Sanders is the one being negative with all the complaints about how

 

everyone is unfair to him.

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 10:54 PM

28. Delusional.

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:13 PM

29. Interesting place to find joy.

 

But it is your joy and not mine. Enjoy it. 👍🏼
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Response to SouthernProgressive (Reply #29)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 08:04 AM

43. Lol. Just imagine his joy if the true depth of the negativism,

 

and reasons for it, could be showered on his grateful head.

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:21 PM

30. He is not doing well and it is reflected in poll after poll

 

No one is "scared" of BS

What people are scared about is that his divisive rhetoric and victim complex keeps his supporters from voting for the eventual nominee. That part has a track record and that is the horror story. BS will never win the nomination. Everyone knows it.
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Response to NYMinute (Reply #30)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:27 PM

32. That's right. It keeps me awake thinking we may have a bs repeat of 2016

 

I just donít get how voters would support him after his appalling behavior, from the convention fiasco to never really asking his supporters to vote for Hillary, or hitting the campaign trail for her. Wrong!!
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Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #32)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:28 PM

33. +1000 nt

 

It is the really twisted ideology of "either we get an ultra leftist or we are ok with Trump."
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Response to NYMinute (Reply #33)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:29 PM

34. A frightening thought

 

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Joe Biden

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Response to NYMinute (Reply #30)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:34 PM

35. +1

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Elizabeth Warren

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Response to NYMinute (Reply #30)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 12:47 AM

37. I am curious about the claim that people are scared of sanders

 

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Joe Biden

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #37)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:30 AM

55. Could be only in person

 

the "get off my lawn" angry man is not very comforting.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 01:10 AM

38. Given that name recognition remains the driving force at this juncture, he's clearly struggling.

 

Those with the most name recognition are especially going to benefit from a large field. Once the field gets considerably smaller (which will coincide with more people paying attention), we're going to see some significant shifts. Right now, a lot of people can't distinguish between all the various candidates. Well, it's not so much that they can't. It's that they aren't going to bother, not when we're still more than 5 months away from Iowa.

Sanders has never stood a chance anyway, unless you think he's going to magically do much, much better among persons of color than he did in 2016. Nobody wins the Democratic Party nomination while getting trounced among POC. No way, no how. In 2016, the race was over after Super Tuesday. In 2020, I think Sanders will essentially be done after New Hampshire. In 2016, he was *the* alternative to the front-runner, a front-runner who was polarizing and under relentless attack for 25 years. And the field being so small enabled him to develop name recognition quickly. 2016 was tailor-made for Sanders. That's not the case this time around.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 05:46 AM

40. Amen!

 

They put so much energy into hating him.

I support him 100%


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Bernie Sanders

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:44 AM

42. Lol. Does that 8% by Sanders' name also "fill you with joy"?

 

Most of that 8% are committed Democrats who intend to vote for our nominee.

Of course, that will not be Sanders, who's now blatantly breaking his pledge to support whoever Democrats do choose. Oh, joy.
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Response to Hortensis (Reply #42)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 08:51 AM

45. This site does not represent the electorate. Not by a long shot.

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #45)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 09:39 AM

50. The electorate is able to speak its mind, not just vote it.

 

Let's not fool ourselves. Sanders is getting much friendlier and Sanders-serving discussion here than he is among "the electorate."
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Response to Hortensis (Reply #50)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 09:42 AM

51. LOL okay.

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 08:27 AM

44. It does not follow.

 

Your conclusion does not follow from the premise. Your argument is by definition, irrational.



(Maybe find something positive to fill you with joy-- that's pretty much the idea. Not the other way around. )
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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #44)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 09:01 AM

46. The fact that Bernie is doing well in the primary IS positive.

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #46)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 09:31 AM

48. Yet... it still does not follow.

 

Yet... it does not follow. Predicating joy on a logical fallacy is (again), by definition, irrational.

And let's be honest with ourselves (if with no one else), BS is not doing well. At all. He is flailing in the shallow end of the pool, has lost momentum, his campaign never had the strategic initiative, his own polling has him consistently and barely tied for a far-distant second place, and he has little hope of winning over the Democrat's two largest voter bases.

But I get it. Telling yourself "The fact that Bernie is doing well" is little different than the hope Buffalo fans had at half-time during Super Bowl XXVII.
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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #48)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 09:46 AM

52. Bit of an outdated reference there.

 

Bernie is in 2nd behind a popular VP, and his numbers have ticked up since the last debate. "Flailing", "losing momentum", etc etc is just wishful thinking on the part of people who, for whatever reason, don't want to see Bernie win the nomination. Well too bad for them, he has a real shot at getting it.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #52)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 11:55 AM

58. I'm certain you'll provide measurable data to support your premise, yes?

 

You'll allow us objective evidence indicating a surge above and beyond Biden's numbers, and a specific course to maintain that new-found first-place felling, yes?

Or are we simply reading another feel-good bumper-sticker, lacking any measure at all other than "I believe I can fly"?
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Response to HerbChestnut (Reply #46)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 09:50 AM

53. Sanders personally stated that they have no clue what they are doing when it comes to social media.

 

His campaign has been doing so poorly that they decided to fundamentally change it after the last debate(this is public information).

They are comparing democrats to terrorists(this is a fact).

They are comparing democrats to Trump(this is a fact and is only one step away from them calling democrats terrorists).

He is following Trumps lead and trashing the media because they don't simply offer outright praise for him(again, a fact).

He has lost almost all of his support from 16 and can't gain any traction this time around. He is the biggest monied candidate on our side and can't buy any movement in the polls. He tried using his platform. Nothing. He has tried buying it. Nothing. He has created his own media outlet like Trump. Nothing.

All facts. Nothing taken out of context.

He is doing really really well.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 09:25 AM

47. Must be that new Bernie math.

 

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Kamala Harris

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Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #47)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:28 AM

54. So much winning!

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 05:12 PM

59. Riiiiiight

 

Do tell, lol
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 04:55 PM

60. From Nate Silver-sanders complaints about media coverage do not hold up

 

Senator Warren has just as liberal or even more liberal platform compared to sanders and she is not being hurt in the polls or getting bad press coverage

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