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Wed Aug 14, 2019, 02:25 PM

 

One talk show host is particularly happy about new polls showing Biden's "in trouble"

Sean Hannity has been tweeting about yesterday's NH poll showing Sanders leading in NH, and today's YouGov poll showing Warren only 1 point behind Biden.

Now, maybe you think Hannity is a closet progressive who really wants a left-wing Democrat in the White House...

But I think it's much more likely that he and his pal Trump have been most worried about Biden, and they're very happy about the possibility that Warren or Sanders will be the nominee instead.
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Reply One talk show host is particularly happy about new polls showing Biden's "in trouble" (Original post)
highplainsdem Aug 14 OP
Demsrule86 Aug 14 #1
Green Line Aug 14 #2
thesquanderer Aug 14 #7
highplainsdem Aug 14 #10
thesquanderer Aug 14 #14
Demsrule86 Aug 15 #23
Bradshaw3 Aug 14 #8
Demsrule86 Aug 15 #22
BeyondGeography Aug 14 #3
highplainsdem Aug 14 #5
Skya Rhen Aug 14 #15
George II Aug 14 #4
highplainsdem Aug 14 #6
Bradshaw3 Aug 14 #9
highplainsdem Aug 14 #11
Bradshaw3 Aug 14 #17
highplainsdem Aug 14 #18
LanternWaste Aug 15 #20
Bradshaw3 Aug 15 #21
Green Line Aug 14 #12
highplainsdem Aug 14 #13
Hortensis Aug 14 #16
Tipperary Aug 14 #19

Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 02:29 PM

1. You gov is an outlier has been from day one...of course they want Warren...they will beat her.

 

Sanders forged some relationships in the mid west 16 but I still think he loses as general..but a better shot than Warren.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 02:31 PM

2. Warren has no chance in the mid west

 

She is the liberal Senator from Mass, that will not fly there and she's a woman. Everyone keeps treating this like a popular vote election. This election is about 3 or 4 states that Trump won.
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Response to Green Line (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:16 PM

7. Polling shows Warren wins those states against Trump.

 

Warren vs. Trump in Pennsylvania: 2 polls, she wins both.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/pa/pennsylvania_trump_vs_warren-6865.html

Warren vs. Trump in Michigan: 2 polls, she wins both.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/mi/michigan_trump_vs_warren-6769.html

Warren vs. Trump in Wisconsin: 1 poll, she wins.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/wi/wisconsin_trump_vs_warren-6852.html
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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #7)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:37 PM

10. In every single poll you cite there, Biden beats Trump by the widest margin.

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #10)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:59 PM

14. I didn't say Warren came in higher than Biden, only that she would beat Trump...

 

...since the assertion was that she wouldn't.

But as long as you mention it, whether you beat Trump by 3 points or 10 points in a state doesn't matter, you get the same electoral votes either way.

That said, yes, I'd like to beat him by a wider margin, well outside the MoE. We'll see what the numbers look like 5-6 months from now, when it can actually start influencing people's votes.
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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #14)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 06:53 PM

23. She wont win ...the election is too close.

 

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Response to Green Line (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:18 PM

8. Actually Warren has an excellent chance in the midwest

 

The Obama voters who deserted HRC will vote for her in the GE. Another article on DU points out how she outperformed HRC in western Mass counties that are in line with the types of places HRC lost in 2016. Warren is seen as real and communicates with the averge voter. Also, Mass was loathe to elect women statewide until she won.
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Response to Green Line (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 06:51 PM

22. I agree. She has no chance in the mid west and we could lose the house if she was the candidate.

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 02:36 PM

3. Lou Dobbs and Ed Rollins were crapping themselves about Warren

 

the other night. Trump needs to build that wall or else! Dobbs said Warren is coming right at Trump. Rollins said hard as it was for him to admit it she’s running the best campaign “for her base.” They appeared to be much less concerned about Biden.

It’s in Washington Examiner world if you want to find it.
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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #3)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:08 PM

5. I saw that, and also saw the video at Mediaite:

 

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/lou-dobbs-concerned-about-whos-advising-trump-if-he-forgets-who-his-base-is-its-gonna-be-a-dandy-of-an-election/

They're speculating that she'll be the "next up" if Biden falters. And yes, they're complimentary about her campaign.

But Ed Rollins also says, "I don't think she'll be tough to beat in the general."

Rollins also predicted that if Warren wins Iowa, "Biden's done." Former wannabe presidents Gephardt and Harkin found out that winning Iowa didn't guarantee the nomination, and a candidate can come in 3rd or 4th in Iowa and still win the primary.

Michael Goodwin, the other expert there, said that when Sanders drops out, Warren will pick up his supporters, a false idea that none of the polling so far supports.

So this wasn't the most informed discussion.

Anyway, some speculation I saw on Twitter was that this was another of Dobbs' warning shots to try to scare Trump, to try to get him to build the wall, veto any gun control, etc.
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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:59 PM

15. If she wins Iowa, then she would have to also win SC to be a strong contender for the nomination.

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:04 PM

4. I interpret his feeling that Biden is "in trouble" as Hannity being scared shitless of Biden.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #4)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:09 PM

6. Agree completely. Hannity can read the same polls we're seeing, and he's probably seen the Trump

 

campaign polls that showed Biden winning, and that Trump denied existed, before he fired the pollster who'd brought him that bad news.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:20 PM

9. Sure we want to base our choice of nominee on the ravings of RWers

 

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Reply #9)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:39 PM

11. It isn't "raving" for Hannity or any Republicans to hope Dems won't nominate the

 

candidate polls show would do best against Trump.
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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #11)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 08:26 PM

17. You go right ahead and believe Hannity is a brilliant analyst

 

I disagree. I find it interesting the things Biden supporters come up with on this site to back their candidate. It seems to be 90 percent about the polls and things like this and very little about his proposals and record.

BTW, did you see the latest national poll that has Biden and Warren in a virtual tie? Guess if Hannity starts attacking Warren you will have to agree that she is the stronger candidate.
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Response to Bradshaw3 (Reply #17)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 09:53 PM

18. Never said anything at all like "Hannity is a brilliant analyst." Just pointed out

 

that he could read polls and he's happy with two he believes mean it's less likely Biden will be the nominee. There have been a LOT of polls, including from Fox News, showing Biden beating Trump, both nationally and in key states. In some of the polls a few other candidates including Warren also beat Trump, but by narrower margins than Biden's, but in others, while Biden beats Trump, Warren loses to him. That's why Hannity is happy about polls showing Democrats he believes are weaker candidates against Trump now doing well against Biden. They're most afraid of Biden.

As for that national poll you mention in your second paragraph there -- try reading my OP more carefully. I refer to it there. It's one of the polls Hannity was tweeting about.

I've also posted a couple of threads here about that poll. One was about Warren being farther behind Biden when only Dems are considered (which matters with closed primaries) and about the poll having apparently rounded numbers in a way that makes it appear Warren''s closer to Biden than she is.

The other was about Biden still having a clear advantage in that poll when voters are asked which candidate is most likely to beat Trump.
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Response to Bradshaw3 (Reply #17)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 03:12 PM

20. You appear the only one mentioning Hannity is brilliant.

 

But I'm sure you'll illustrate your honesty and point us towards that particular, yes?










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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #20)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 05:23 PM

21. Back to stalking and defaming me again huh

 

Of course I never said he was brilliant, just that the poster seems to think he is based on his post. It's easy to understand that, unless one is out to mislead.

You really should try some honesty and ask why you do nothing on here but make personal attacks on me and others, using falsehoods and stalking tactics. Then do a self-assessment as to why your life has come to this.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:44 PM

12. What about the Morning Consult poll?

 

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Response to Green Line (Reply #12)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:50 PM

13. Hannity's just focusing on the polls showing Sanders ahead of Biden, or Warren nearly tied with him.

 

Those are the polls that Trump and his supporters will be happy about.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 04:24 PM

16. They don't believe this, why should anyone else?

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 10:58 PM

19. Screw Hannity.

 

He is such a moron.
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