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Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:10 AM

 

Biden camp jumped into damage control after upsetting Latino leaders

Biden echoed a conservative talking point in the last Democratic debate, saying undocumented illegal immigrants need to "get in line."

Joe Biden’s presidential campaign is quietly playing cleanup with dozens of immigration activists and Latino leaders — weeks after upsetting them by using what they considered loaded language to describe his views on immigration policy.

Biden said at the July 31 Democratic debate that undocumented immigrants need to “get in line” and that the country has been right to “cherry-pick” high-skilled immigrants, notably those with advanced degrees.


That language, more commonly used by conservatives, triggered widespread criticism from immigrant rights activists, some of whom said the former vice president was echoing “Republican talking points” on how migrants are admitted to the United States.

The campaign quickly embarked on damage control. Aides assuaged aggrieved activists, and Biden had a closed-door meeting with Latino leaders in San Diego before his speech at the UnidosUS conference last week.


https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/14/joe-biden-latinos-immigration-2020-1461341
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Reply Biden camp jumped into damage control after upsetting Latino leaders (Original post)
Autumn Aug 14 OP
George II Aug 14 #1
still_one Aug 14 #2
Autumn Aug 14 #3
progressoid Aug 14 #13
Autumn Aug 14 #16
hlthe2b Aug 14 #4
Autumn Aug 14 #5
Thekaspervote Aug 14 #6
Autumn Aug 14 #9
True Dough Aug 14 #17
Autumn Aug 14 #18
True Dough Aug 14 #19
Autumn Aug 14 #20
oasis Aug 14 #7
Autumn Aug 14 #10
SouthernProgressive Aug 14 #8
Skya Rhen Aug 14 #11
Autumn Aug 14 #22
tritsofme Aug 14 #12
highplainsdem Aug 14 #14
bluewater Aug 14 #15
Autumn Aug 14 #21

Response to Autumn (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:12 AM

1. Dupe:

 

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287239034
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Response to George II (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:13 AM

2. I doubt the OP cares

 

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Response to George II (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:14 AM

3. Didn't notice that one. Thanks for pointing it out.

 

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Response to Autumn (Reply #3)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 01:51 PM

13. Thanks for posting this one. Some of us work and can't be on here 14 hours a day.

 

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Response to progressoid (Reply #13)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:07 PM

16. People seem to think we should know every post I guess. You're welcome.

 

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Response to Autumn (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:16 AM

4. Biden's advisers do not seem to be working effectively, competently...

 

That they did not convene sessions--much like debate prep--to go through current issues and areas where progressive attitudes have evolved, seems inexplicable to me. Someone who has lived through and worked through more than 40 years of issues and policies-- can not reply based on reflex alone. Areas where there has been either evolution within the party, within society, or in which Trump has taken previously mainstream opinions to the extremes should have been fully fleshed out and addressed.

Plenty of time to do so, but it needs to happen SOON.
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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #4)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:34 AM

5. I don't think they are either, but I don't see that changing.

 

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Response to Autumn (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:48 AM

6. Oh ...more let's pile on the leader!!

 

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Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #6)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 12:15 PM

9. Tis the season. Primary season. I believe it's called vetting

 

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Response to Autumn (Reply #9)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:08 PM

17. You know, it's actually more important to point out duplicate threads than to respond to

 

criticism levelled at Uncle Joe. Because the other thread doesn't have any defenses for what was said.
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Response to True Dough (Reply #17)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:14 PM

18. It's also easier to criticize the person than to discuss the article.

 

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Response to Autumn (Reply #18)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:15 PM

19. Especially if that person's name is Autumn

 

She's always going to take the fall.

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Response to True Dough (Reply #19)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:30 PM

20. I don't mind, I have strong shoulders.

 

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Response to Autumn (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:52 AM

7. July 31 Debate revisited.

 

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Response to oasis (Reply #7)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 12:16 PM

10. Did it not happen? I'm pretty sure it did.

 

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Response to Autumn (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 12:06 PM

8. Another weak corporate media hit piece brought to us by the millionaires and billionaires.

 

Just now getting their talking points together from the last debate. Really tells you how well Biden did.
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Response to Autumn (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 12:19 PM

11. Obama said, basically, the same thing related to his administration's immigration bill...

 

Snip...

"This bill would provide a pathway to earned citizenship for the 11 million individuals who are in this country illegally, a pathway that includes passing a background check, learning English, paying taxes and a penalty, and then going to the back of the line behind everyone who’s playing by the rules and trying to come here legally," Obama said about immigration reform.

Snip...

This bill would modernize the legal immigration system so that, alongside training American workers for the jobs of tomorrow, we’re also attracting highly-skilled entrepreneurs and engineers who will grow our economy. And so that our people don’t have to wait years before their loved ones are able to join them in this country we love.



https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/06/08/obama_jumps_into_immigration_reform_debate_in_weekly_address.html
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Response to Skya Rhen (Reply #11)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 04:17 PM

22. That doesn't make it better, they were none too happy with Obama when he said that.

 

From the article.

Biden has been viewed with suspicion at times by immigration activists. They point to what they call his lack of outreach to Latino communities in the past and his time as vice president under Barack Obama, who was tagged by liberal-leaning activists as the “deporter in chief” because of his administration’s border enforcement policies.

Activists interrupted Biden’s remarks during last month’s debate in Detroit. And in early July, six demonstrators were arrested during a sit-in at Biden’s Philadelphia campaign headquarters.

The tension between Biden’s campaign and the activist community has roots in his overall campaign strategy. He's running as a centrist in a primary in which most of the other top-tier candidates are tilting left. And many liberal activists aren't enthused about an old, white moderate leading the ticket.
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Response to Autumn (Original post)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 01:40 PM

12. Freaking out at these sort of benign statements

 

Is the sort of thing that causes Democrats to lose elections they shouldn’t.
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Response to tritsofme (Reply #12)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 02:03 PM

14. +1,000,000

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #14)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 02:20 PM

15. Those "freaking out" dozens of immigration activists and Latino leaders?

 

People are characterizing them as "freaking out" about Biden "using what they considered loaded language to describe his views on immigration policy" ?

Not a good look.
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Response to tritsofme (Reply #12)

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:34 PM

21. One persons freaking out is another persons discussion.

 

I will never understand why some Democrats think things that happen should not be discussed.
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