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Thu Feb 21, 2019, 10:02 PM

 

Official Why I like Sherrod Brown thread.

I haven't seen anything posted on Brown here, so Brown fans, lets talk about why he should run and hope he listens to us.

Good things about Brown
- One of the most progressive voting records in the Senate.
-Working class appeal.
-Midwest appeal.
-No nonsense.
-Thoughtful yet passionate.
-Wears rumpled suits, just like me.
-Says we don't have to choose between supporting minorities and supporting the working class.
-Flat out called Trump a racist.

Please add your own.
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Reply Official Why I like Sherrod Brown thread. (Original post)
marylandblue Feb 2019 OP
A-Schwarzenegger Feb 2019 #1
Ohiogal Feb 2019 #2
kimbutgar Feb 2019 #3
marylandblue Feb 2019 #5
dflprincess Feb 2019 #4
Ohiogal Feb 2019 #6
Horizens Feb 2019 #7
highplainsdem Feb 2019 #9
pnwmom Feb 2019 #8
Clash City Rocker Feb 2019 #10
zeusdogmom Feb 2019 #34
MH1 Feb 2019 #11
solara Feb 2019 #12
marylandblue Feb 2019 #15
solara Feb 2019 #17
marylandblue Feb 2019 #18
solara Feb 2019 #24
Qutzupalotl Feb 2019 #13
MaryMagdaline Feb 2019 #14
mvd Feb 2019 #16
MontanaFarmer Feb 2019 #19
VarryOn Feb 2019 #20
Generic Brad Feb 2019 #21
Imperialism Inc. Feb 2019 #22
AlexSFCA Feb 2019 #23
ooky Feb 2019 #25
marylandblue Feb 2019 #30
sprinkleeninow Feb 2019 #31
ooky Feb 2019 #40
Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #26
marylandblue Feb 2019 #29
Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #32
patricia92243 Feb 2019 #37
MH1 Feb 2019 #38
jalan48 Feb 2019 #36
DoctorJoJo Feb 2019 #27
williesgirl Feb 2019 #28
Freddie Feb 2019 #33
IrishEyes Feb 2019 #41
jalan48 Feb 2019 #35
Politicub Feb 2019 #39
in2herbs Feb 2019 #42

Response to marylandblue (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 10:04 PM

1. I'd be happy to vote for Sherrod.

 

I can see him as President.
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Response to marylandblue (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 10:07 PM

2. You've pretty much summed it up!

 

I can add only one other thing ....

His wife is wonderful!
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Response to marylandblue (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 10:07 PM

3. Even though he hasn't announced I think he could unite the country.

 

Joe Biden is my second choice but his age could be a hinderance.
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Response to kimbutgar (Reply #3)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 10:10 PM

5. I think he can unite us too.

 

He's a progressive, but moderates like him. I don't know why that is, but I'll take it.
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Response to marylandblue (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 10:09 PM

4. I'm still uncommitted

 

but Brown is near the top of my list.

What I don't want him to do under any circumatances, is take the VP slot if offered. If he's not president, we need him in the senate.
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Response to dflprincess (Reply #4)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 10:13 PM

6. Agree 100%

 

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Response to dflprincess (Reply #4)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 10:19 PM

7. 100%

 

Agree
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Response to dflprincess (Reply #4)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 10:21 PM

9. +1,000,000

 

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Response to marylandblue (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 10:21 PM

8. He's the only real progressive elected by a state that leans Republican.

 

According to Progressive Punch, of the 39 most progressive Senators, he's the only one who doesn't come from a blue state.

And he scores 8th most progressive.

http://www.progressivepunch.org/scores.htm?house=senate
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Response to marylandblue (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 10:26 PM

10. Very likable

 

It would be hard for Republicans to demonize him.

Really, the only significant downside is that his Senate seat would be replaced by a Republican. My top 3 right now would be Cory, him and Kamala.
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Response to Clash City Rocker (Reply #10)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 08:45 AM

34. Replacement would be a Mike Dewine decision

 

He would have a whole stable full of RWNJ to choose from. None of 'em good.

But that pain aside, Brown would make a great president (says she who currently has Amy at the top of her list followed by Kamala and most of the others, too).
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Response to marylandblue (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 10:30 PM

11. In addition to the great points already mention, he is exceptionally smart, and understands issues

 

on a real level, that is including the complexity, not just the sound bite.

Whenever I hear him talk about something I feel like "he gets it". At the same time he can get to the core of an issue in a way that has allowed him to win in a republican state as a progressive.

And specifically, he and Bernie Sanders were the only 2020 candidates to co-sponsor a good bill in the last session that would have fixed some of the worst issues with the H-1B program. Of course the bill went nowhere. But he was smart enough to sign onto a very good bill on an issue that most Dems either ignore or are on the wrong side of. But it's an issue that is core to his platform of "the Dignity of Work" - and he gets it.

If he runs, barring some other major differentiator cropping up that puts another candidate ahead of him for me, he's going to get my vote.
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Response to marylandblue (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 10:36 PM

12. I am also leaning towards Sherrod Brown

 

for the reasons you have stated..and he is at a great age for those who think we need a younger person. He has a strong, mature, trustworthy and capable vibe. I am just worried that he is not dynamic enough, but really that remains to be seen on a national level.

I think pairing him with a dynamic, strong woman would be an excellent choice.. but we will see. I am still undecided until I see him in the debates.. hope he makes it onto that stage. The candidates need to have something like 65,000 signatures to be invited to the debates? Yes? Well, we will see soon enough I imagine.

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Response to solara (Reply #12)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 10:55 PM

15. Need 1% in the polls or 65,000 donors

 

He's already met the percentage threshold.
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Response to marylandblue (Reply #15)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 11:10 PM

17. Ahh excellent, but has he declared? n/t

 

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Response to solara (Reply #17)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 11:20 PM

18. No, but he's been touring early primary states

 

So I'm guessing he will announce soon.
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Response to marylandblue (Reply #18)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 12:41 AM

24. Cool... I'd sure like to see more of him N/T

 

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Response to marylandblue (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 10:37 PM

13. I like his voice.

 

I hope thatís not too shallow. Itís gravelly and makes you sit up and take notice. It makes him sound tough. Thatís a quality lacking in some other potential candidates I wonít name; they use tough words but in the wrong voice it doesnít sound convincing ó it comes across as weakness. Not to me, but to what I imagine the other side is seeing.

Thatís a roundabout way of saying I think Brown has great crossover appeal and could get moderate Republican votes, dooming Trump if thatís who weíre still running against. So Brown is definitely on my short list. The drawback as noted above is weíd lose a Senate seat in a year in which every seat counts.
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Response to marylandblue (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 10:50 PM

14. I'm with him all the way. It's all about the EC. He and Biden

 

Can get enough EC votes. Iíve always liked his pro-labor stances.
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Response to marylandblue (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 11:05 PM

16. I like him too

 

I was a bit disappointed to learn of his current Medicare For All stance, and we'd be losing a valuable blue seat in Ohio. But he does have a message that plays very well with the working class.
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Response to marylandblue (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 11:24 PM

19. He has a career's worth of credibility

 

On issues relating to the treatment and care for working people in this country. His message of "the dignity of work" transcends race and class IMO. At the same time, being from a diverse state, he understands, I think, the social justice issues plaguing our minority communities. If/ when he runs, i'm all in with a ticket of Sherrod/ Kamala. I'd be happy Kamala/Sherrod also, but don't want him to give up his seat for VP.
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Response to marylandblue (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 11:31 PM

20. I would expect he could carry Ohio...

 

We need to win it back in 2020. Brown has shown he can win in a reddish state.
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Response to marylandblue (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 11:34 PM

21. I can see it

 

No negatives for Sherrie Brown.
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Response to marylandblue (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 11:52 PM

22. A Sherrod Brown - Frank Zappa connection.

 

A few months before I turned 18 in 1988 I went to see Frank Zappa here in Ohio. Brown was, I think, Secretary of State of Ohio. Zappa had him briefly come out on stage , because he had authorized voter registration booths at the concert. That's where I registered to vote, at intermission.
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Response to marylandblue (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 12:20 AM

23. He hasn't announced if he is running

 

If he does, heíll be my first choice. I really like his Medicare buy-in option which will result in gradual and natural transisition to universal healthcare.
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Response to marylandblue (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 12:54 AM

25. I like a lot about him but what about health care? Medicare buy in at age 50

 

leaves out a lot of chronically ill people under 50 that need help now. I think if he would offer a solution for all people who need affordable health care the most urgently, first, then follow up with the Medicare at age 50, then I could support him as a primary candidate.
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Response to ooky (Reply #25)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 01:27 AM

30. I am not sure what else he plans besides that

 

I am not a fan of Medicare-for-all. I don't think it's feasible. I'd like to see a public option with better coverage than what is on the exchanges. Klobuchar, who I also like, suggests expanding Medicaid.
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Response to marylandblue (Reply #30)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 02:01 AM

31. You outlined very fine standout points in your OP

 

as have others pointed out favorable qualities and stances.

I read up on him and just plain ol' like him!

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Response to marylandblue (Reply #30)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 12:02 PM

40. I agree with you in that I worry about

 

"Medicare for All" not being feasible. Brown said that, and that's one of the things I like about him, is that he wants to go for something that we can actually run on and win and implement. I also agree with your comments about the public option, hopefully he would support that and I'm pretty sure he would, so would like to hear more detail from him on that. I'm hoping that by adding a public option it could be done in a way that encompasses the solution for people who can't afford the costs of their chronic illnesses. It's those people I believe should be first in line to benefit from our proposed changes to the health care system, and would expect it based on what we say we are for in our platform. So I am looking for more comments from our candidates that zero in on what they will do for the most chronically ill, and can say I am already that one point of clarification away from embracing Brown as my primary candidate.
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Response to marylandblue (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 12:57 AM

26. I thought we were supposed to post in candidate forums only if we belonged to that forum.

 

Sherrod Brown primary forum - only those who have decided on Brown post there. Harris - only those who have decided on Harris post there. And so on.

So this is in the "general" Primaries forum? So even those who have decided on a particular candidate can post there about his/her candidate?

Am I getting this right?

No? Yes?
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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #26)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 01:21 AM

29. I didn't see any forums for specific 2020 candidates, so I think it all goes here for now.

 

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Response to marylandblue (Reply #29)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 02:09 AM

32. I guess I misunderstood.

 

I remembered the post as saying that people who support so-and-so can't post in a forum for a different candidate. That way, they're hoping to cut down on the arguing. Maybe I misunderstood, or maybe that's down the road.
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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #32)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 09:13 AM

37. This is just a post within the Primaries Forum - not a whole forum about such and such person.

 

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #32)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 09:48 AM

38. You mean candidate supporter groups. Those haven't been created yet for 2020 candidates.

 

In Skinner's post announcing this forum (not group), he said they would be created soon but would have some new features over the old candidate supporter groups. I expect the rules for those groups will be tweaked accordingly.

For now, anything about the 2020 primaries is to be posted in this forum. That includes posts about specific candidates.

The usual DU rules apply. Within those rules, this forum is a free-for-all, at least for now.
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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #26)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 09:00 AM

36. There are currently multiple posts about Sanders from candidates supporting Harris. nt

 

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Response to marylandblue (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 01:07 AM

27. I've Lived in Ohio for Most of My Adult Life--Sherrod Is the Real Deal, plus:

 

His wife, Connie Schultz, is an incredible asset! And Most of ALL: WE NEED OHIO!
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Response to marylandblue (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 01:16 AM

28. I really like him.

 

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Response to marylandblue (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 05:59 AM

33. I like him a lot

 

Actually heís tied with Amy for my #1 choice (or theyíd be a great ticket together!)
He could win. That is all.
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Response to Freddie (Reply #33)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 12:09 PM

41. That would be a good ticket. Klobuchar/Brown or Brown/Klobuchar.

 

Either way works for me.
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Response to marylandblue (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 08:56 AM

35. He sounds like he could be a great candidate.

 

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Response to marylandblue (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 10:13 AM

39. I'm here to learn.

 

Thanks for starting the thread! I didn't know that much about him.
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Response to marylandblue (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 12:55 PM

42. He and his wife Connie would bring back that quality to the WH that is missing with Trump.

 

Besides he is married to a woman who is a person in her own right and does not feel threatened by that.
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