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Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:05 PM

 

I Think Beto O' Rourke Can Win




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I think just about all of the Democratic candidates could beat Donald Trump. I just wanted to comment on O' Rourke's statement announcing he is running for President. I think he could beat Donald Trump in the general election. He seems like he could get many different types of people to vote for him. We still have to see his policies, but so far he seems like he could win.
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Reply I Think Beto O' Rourke Can Win (Original post)
erpowers Thursday OP
msongs Thursday #1
TwilightZone Thursday #3
marylandblue Thursday #5
TwilightZone Thursday #7
customerserviceguy Thursday #12
Renew Deal Thursday #17
Laura PourMeADrink Friday #18
Cha Friday #21
TexasTowelie Friday #28
Cha Friday #34
Gothmog Friday #38
Gothmog Friday #40
samnsara Thursday #2
marylandblue Thursday #4
Awsi Dooger Thursday #11
Sugarcoated Friday #23
Baclava Thursday #6
TwilightZone Thursday #8
Baclava Thursday #10
customerserviceguy Thursday #14
TwilightZone Thursday #16
Laura PourMeADrink Friday #19
Gothmog Friday #37
Gothmog Friday #39
forklift Thursday #9
Sugarcoated Friday #22
Pachamama Friday #30
radius777 Saturday #42
JCMach1 Thursday #13
sellitman Thursday #15
Laura PourMeADrink Friday #20
Pachamama Friday #29
Kentonio Friday #24
PDittie Friday #25
bearsfootball516 Friday #27
Gothmog Friday #36
WhiskeyGrinder Friday #26
Tipperary Friday #31
WhiskeyGrinder Friday #32
Tipperary Friday #33
Sugarcoated Saturday #43
Gothmog Friday #35
NurseJackie Friday #41
McCamy Taylor Saturday #44

Response to erpowers (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:15 PM

1. ted cruz nt

 

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Response to msongs (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:23 PM

3. Trump won Texas by 9%. Beto lost to Cruz by 2.6%.

 

Considering the significant difference in voter turnout in TX between the right and the left, that's a pretty significant accomplishment. If TX had national-average turnout, Beto would probably have won, but D turnout is an ongoing problem here.

I find it curious that people seem to want to discount Beto solely because he lost a close race to a Republican in a red-turning-purple state, but don't seem to think that Democrats who've lost previous primaries by much larger margins against other Democrats should be viewed similarly. By similar logic, Sanders and Biden should just pack it in, Joe before even he announces.
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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:25 PM

5. Lincoln lost his 1858 bid. Just saying.

 

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Response to marylandblue (Reply #5)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:32 PM

7. Yeah, I don't buy the "one strike and you're out" routine.

 

Especially when it's only selectively applied.
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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:30 PM

12. Close

 

only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. So I've been told.
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Response to msongs (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:55 PM

17. California and Vermont

 

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Response to msongs (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:02 AM

18. Had zero to do with Beto. ALL to do with orchestrated

 

smear campaign on Facebook. I saw it everywhere. And after a week of it, Beto, who had been rising plateaued just in time. Bet there were intense debates on Cruz campaign about when to unleash the trash.
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Response to msongs (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:50 AM

21. Yeah, Beto almost beat ted cruz

 

in red Texas.

His campaigning was Brilliant.
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Response to Cha (Reply #21)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:45 PM

28. I received two text messages asking for donations on my phone yesterday from staff members that were

 

on his Senate campaign. Considering that nearly all of the Democrats that ran for state office in 2014 lost by about 20 percent, cutting the margin to less than 3% was a significant accomplishment.
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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #28)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:36 PM

34. It was phenomenal!

 

I think it's a silly talking point to say Beto couldn't beat ted cruz in Texas. When he was soooo Close.
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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #28)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 06:51 PM

38. I gave to Beto earlier yesterday

 

At lunch yesterday, two of my law partners, three associates and two paralegals were all contributing to Beto and buying bumper stickers.
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Response to msongs (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 06:53 PM

40. For this thread

 

Here is a good explanation

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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:23 PM

2. im trying to picture him going toe to toe with Kim or Putin...

 

...without singing Koom by yah...then i get the giggles. Yep he could win!
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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:23 PM

4. I think he can win too. Charisma is more important than policy.

 

All Democrats are hitting the same policy themes, some a bit more to the left than others, but all in the same ballpark. Personality not policy is what really distinguishes them, and we need someone who can fire up the troops and steal the spotlight from Trump.
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Response to marylandblue (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 09:28 PM

11. That is a great summary

 

Charisma is like the quarterback and policy is like the defensive line. Yes, both are terrific advantages and there are examples of each one carrying the day without the other, but given a choice of more-often-than-not there really isn't a choice at all.

Give me the quarterback and I'll take my chances.
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Response to marylandblue (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:03 AM

23. You can see he has the Obama authenticity

 

He'll be able to bat back and mock Trump's silly but effective school yard bully mob guy shtick. He's quick, sharp and fearless. And a fighter. Yay! I'm so thrilled he's running!
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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:27 PM

6. maybe, but this rockstar fetish wish for another Kennedy won't be enough

 

He will have to convince voters on his own
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Response to Baclava (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:34 PM

8. Just like the rest of the candidates.

 

He was in a close race with Cruz in a red-leaning state with an ongoing D turnout problem. It wasn't close solely because he's a "rockstar".
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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #8)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:49 PM

10. Trump chewed up and spit out 'Lyin' Ted' Cruz

 

Have to do better
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Response to Baclava (Reply #10)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:37 PM

14. True

 

And Cruz lasted a lot longer than more established Repubicons. I did have to laugh my ass off when he made that desperation move at the end to have Carly Fiorina as his "running mate". She has run two companies (Lucent and Hewlett Packard) straight into the ground, and Lyin' Ted thought he could pick up California votes with his last-ditch gambit.
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Response to Baclava (Reply #10)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:09 PM

16. Better than what?

 

Beto vs. Trump and Trump vs. Cruz have nothing in common. Apples and oranges. The latter was a primary and irrelevant to a national contest in 2020. Besides, Cruz thumped Trump in Texas 44/27. Beto lost by 2.6%.

Trump won the primary overall because he tapped into disaffected, racist morons who couldn't see through his crap and other assorted malcontents. He certainly didn't beat Cruz because he was a better candidate. Had the GOP gotten their shit together earlier and rallied behind one anti-Trump candidate, Cruz may have won. He was one of the last ones in the race.
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Response to Baclava (Reply #10)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:07 AM

19. Interesting what the left leaning Austin radio show

 

said today. ALL you have to do to win in TX is to just show you are a good guy. No policy. Just that more than half think Trump's an asshole scumbag. Just show you aren't. They didn't like Beto's policy laden display this morning. They think it turns people off. Just be a nice guy
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Response to Baclava (Reply #10)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 06:48 PM

37. Carnival Cruz beat trump in Texas by 17%

 

Here is a good explanation

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Response to Baclava (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 06:52 PM

39. For this thread

 


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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:35 PM

9. He is going to be

 

the next POTUS or VPOTUS without a doubt.
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Response to forklift (Reply #9)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:57 AM

22. Agreed

 

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Response to Sugarcoated (Reply #22)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 02:01 PM

30. I am torn...I have been Harris/Biden or Biden/Harris....

 

....Now I see Beto and say "Wow"....I am impressed....

It would be great to see a Harris/Beto or Beto/Harris - if I thought that those two could win the entire Nation....

I love Joe Biden....despite his "baggage" from his past. However - I think Biden on the ticket as President with either Harris or Beto would be a winning ticket for POTUS and beating Trump and helping bring our Nation back and our democracy.

I think we need a woman on the ticket....I really don't feel having two white males is what our Nation needs....yet is that what is needed to beat a racist misogynistic MOFO?

So I don't know what will happen...
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Response to Pachamama (Reply #30)

Sat Mar 16, 2019, 01:36 AM

42. Two white men on a Dem ticket

 

would simply confirm the Trumper narrative, that women/PoC/etc are inferior and need white men to do the job.

So even if we "won" with such a ticket, we would lose the larger cultural argument.

One of the spots on the ticket should be a woman; women drove the blue wave and this is the MeToo era, making it good politics as well.

Personally, I favor a Kamala/Beto ticket, a rockstar ticket which can mobilize the Obama coalition.
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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:34 PM

13. He connects directly with people in the same way Obama did, Kennedy did

 

et al

So, definitely he can win.
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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:44 PM

15. He would make a great VP for Kamala

 

That's my take.
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Response to sellitman (Reply #15)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:08 AM

20. Not sure two newbies would work.

 

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Response to sellitman (Reply #15)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:57 PM

29. I agree.....

 

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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 06:35 AM

24. He has great charisma, and there's a lot to like about him

 

I'd like to know more about his actual beliefs and policies at a national level though, as obviously running in Texas he had to tailor things more to the local audience.

I suspect its too early for him, and I'd definitely prefer him to gain a bit more experience first. If he could take a senate seat in 2020 and look to run in 2028 that would be ideal I think. If he can win it now though, good for him!
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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:32 PM

25. I don't

 

Sorry, but he couldn't beat Ted Cruz here. And Cruz couldn't beat trump.

What precisely -- if you would, please -- makes you think he can win the Democratic nomination? Charm is certainly a nice quality, but he's weak on the issues that appear to be driving D voters' enthusiasm this cycle (where he even has firm stands on them).

My belief, FWIW, is that Beto will make someone a helpful running mate; probably not Biden or Sanders, perhaps Kamala or Liz Warren, Amy Klobuchar, or Cory Booker should they be nominated.

One other point: Perhaps you are aware that the LBJ law in Texas means he can run for both president and US Senate (against John Cornyn) next year. I fully expect both O'Rourke and Julián Castro to avail themselves of this.


The conversation so far has been presented as an either-or — that if O’Rourke runs for Senate, he’d be out of the presidential race. But both O’Rourke and Castro would be eligible to be on the Texas ticket for Senate and for president or vice president, if they so desired. Texas law prevents candidates from filing for more than one office, except for that LBJ exemption. And the exemption in the Texas Election Code is broader than history might indicate: “This section does not apply to candidacy for the office of president or vice-president of the United States and another office.”


Sp while I do not think either man can capture the nomination, one would be a strong ticket mate for the right nominee. And with Beto and Castro both on the top of the 2020 ballot, Texas turns blue. And the GOP loses Texas, the White House, the Senate ...

Even George Will knows this.
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Response to PDittie (Reply #25)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:40 PM

27. "Sorry, but he couldn't beat Ted Cruz here. And Cruz couldn't beat trump."

 

All of those things are irrelevant. Texas isn't indicative of the entire US electorate. And the 2016 Republican primary and 2020 general election have nothing in comparison.
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Response to bearsfootball516 (Reply #27)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 06:45 PM

36. In Texas voter turnout is significantly lower in midterm years and yet Beto did great

 

Beto could put Texas into play

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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 01:37 PM

26. Lord, whose idea was it to have his wife stare at him silently through this whole thing?

 

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #26)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 02:06 PM

31. That was weird.

 

Just odd.
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Response to Tipperary (Reply #31)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 02:17 PM

32. It's things like this and his comment about "being born to it"

 

that just make him look out of touch when it comes to women, especially in the current political climate.
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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #32)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 03:38 PM

33. I agree.

 

Just my opinion, but it appears to me that he takes his wife for granted.
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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #26)

Sat Mar 16, 2019, 12:40 PM

43. I didn't think it was weird at all

 

She did look at the camera several times, though
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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 06:43 PM

35. I think that Beto is also electable

 

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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:17 PM

41. His wife is charming, natural, wholesome... GENUINE! They make a lovely couple.

 

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Response to erpowers (Original post)

Sat Mar 16, 2019, 12:48 PM

44. I do too.

 

Positive thread. More and more of these are appearing today at DU. Good job guys!

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