Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumFirst it was Joe. Now Beto is getting the extreme vetting
For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
Matthew 7:2
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dalton99a
(81,385 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
aikoaiko
(34,160 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TwilightZone
(25,423 posts)Which is an accurate assessment, in my opinion. I think he's going to siphon votes from a demographic or two that other candidates consider very important to their campaigns.
The funny ones are the posters summarily dismissing him and declaring that he has no chance...but posting repeatedly about him in multiple threads.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueWI
(1,736 posts)Beto is a threat to Sanders and Sanders' supporters are panicking?
Only one candidate is going to win. Why foment extra drama?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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WhiskeyGrinder
(22,304 posts)trouble spots.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Autumn
(44,972 posts)Every... EVERY aspect of a candidate's life is fair game. His (or her) interviews, writings, recordings, votes... successes and failures.
Voters have the right to know if there's something in a candidate's background that would be a "showstopper" for his (or her) campaign during the General Election. By that time, it's too fucking late.
We deserve to know the truth." that's what I hear.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(44,972 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)I don't live here.
Let me introduce myself. I am a lifelong 40 plus years, Democrat, I have worked for this party, given money to my party and supported every nominee for all of that time. I have never given a litmus test to a Democratic candidate. I have some I don't like much, but I would support them and have, in the general because a Democrat is always superior to any Republican.
My reason for questioning some of Mr. Sanders ideas and actions is due to what happened in 2016, when so much division began in our party. I had friends who supported Mr. Sanders who began to question any of us who did not as "not a real democrat".
I am hoping we can get through this primary united to beat the orange menace, but I am concerned and have voiced that often. FYI I have responded to posts a lot older than a week before. I am semi retired, but I work and do 20 to 30 hours a week of volunteer work so there is that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(44,972 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)I didn't encounter it with Hillary people, just some of the ones who were very strongly in Mr. Sanders camp. I was also at the convention, it was an ugly thing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)he cant wait to see Biden getting grilled are now turning into the same nasty sentiments about Beto. So ridiculous.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Nanjeanne
(4,915 posts)Its not purity. Its being informed. Then every voter gets to decide which things they learned are non starters and which arent.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Dough
(17,246 posts)There are a few here who take the criticism too far, but asking pertinent questions and providing relevant information is a healthy exercise.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)I don't get that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)Calling a person's "co-sponsorship" or lack of sponsorship of a bill a "vote". What say you about this from earlier today? You claimed that "Beto voted against Medicare for all and a 15 dollar an hour minimum wage" when in fact that's not true in either case.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=22101
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)Tells me Ive picked a solid choice to support.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....might be those who are against him/her and the lengths they go to tear him/her down.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,633 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,423 posts)But you know that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)But hey, why wouldn't I back the runner up of 2016 in the next election?
Especially when I agree with everything he's running on? I'm not voting on personality or age.
I backed Hillary to the hilt in the primaries and general election in 2016 but unfortunately she did not get the office.
Time to take a different road now as far as I'm concerned
I'm living proof that some Hillary backers switched over to Bernie. Hopefully lots of them. That might bother some folks around here but so be it I guess.
In the end I will vote for whatever candidate get the dem nomination like always but I will fight for my candidate until the nomination is won or lost.
I may not survive on this board though. Time will tell.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(296,763 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
shanny
(6,709 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(296,763 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)He won't be hemming and hawing.
Besides, issues and voting records are comically overrated at times like this. They are nothing but dose of rationale for the type who want some reason to change their mind or reinforce their opinion each and every day.
Meanwhile nothing is happening. Once the debates begin then personality, charisma and ability to think on your feet and dominate a one-on-one exchange are front and center, and exponentially more significant than any peripherals. That's why Trump's opportunity was understated and it is also why Sanders' opportunity is currently understated. He is not my choice and I'd be scared to nominate a socialist but he is going to be a force in those debates. Perhaps the dominant force.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)There are a lot of questions that he will face this time around that he did not face last time, those questions will be asked of him by moderators and repeatedly dismissing the moderator as someone who misunderstood what happened won't work for long, maybe not even through the first debate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JCMach1
(27,553 posts)Major difference in approach...
Beto brings people (first) to the Democratic agenda...
Sanders brings ideology (first) to the people...
So yeah, Beto vs. Sanders is going to be around for awhile...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Bernie has to answer questions about the sexual harrassment and violence issues that took place in his 2016 campaign. Plus his failure to produce the complete, multi-year tax returns will be an issue, he has already been asked that once on national tv. At some point, Bernie's dismissals of the significance of the issues are going to catch up to him. I see him being on the defensive bigtime in the first debate, that does not seem to be a position that he likes being placed in, that is why I think that he is going to have problems in the debates. It won't be about throwing out insinuations about paid speeches and then letting trolls and the media take over, Bernie will have to answer some substantive questions, that may be why we have seen posts trying to take down Harris, Klobuchar, Biden, now Beto.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JCMach1
(27,553 posts)anything beyond what I have seen in early primary stages before...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JCMach1
(27,553 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
peggysue2
(10,819 posts)Sure to be a Wowsa event. And revealing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
shanny
(6,709 posts)they all will be and should be subjected to "extreme" vetting
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)How was Joe subjected to extreme vetting? People asking questions and raising concerns about his past record is exactly what you should expect (and indeed want) during this process, because the GOP will certainly use anything they can against us.
What even is 'extreme' vetting? Is there some stuff that should remain hidden and that we should hope the inevitable GOP investigators in the general never find out?
I want all candidates (including Bernie) to be investigated, have their past records examined and any worrying past actions or words questioned during the primaries, so we come out the other side with a strong candidate with no unexpected surprises to be revealed later.
This isn't a game where we all win or lose based on who gets the nomination. If any of us get our prefered candidate but then they screw up later and it costs us the general, then we've lost far worse than if a different candidate had won the nomination. Let's never forget that ANY Democrat is better than a Republican.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
OBrien
(363 posts)Beto has been vetted by Ted Cruz.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden