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Thu Mar 14, 2019, 07:57 AM

 

Beto voted against Medicare for all and a 15 dollar an hour minimum wage



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Reply Beto voted against Medicare for all and a 15 dollar an hour minimum wage (Original post)
workinclasszero Thursday OP
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Renew Deal Thursday #4
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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:14 AM

1. I notice that he is listed as a Democrat

 

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Response to Cary (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:32 AM

4. Did you notice if anyone actually voted on them?

 

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:41 AM

7. I prefer Democrats

 

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Response to Cary (Reply #7)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:51 AM

11. Do you prefer the truth?

 

Can you help me out and post the vote counts?
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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #11)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 12:48 PM

17. The OP should post the vote counts, or whether or not they were voted on at all.

 

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Beto O'Rourke

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #11)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:00 PM

25. But it is not true as another poster explained on this thread...Beto mush be clean as a whistle

 

if false information is put out to take him down...and let me just say 'the truth shall set you free'.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #25)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:03 PM

28. Why does Beto need to be clean, but not others?

 

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #28)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:35 PM

45. I don't need purity...especially when those who insist on it support Sen.Sanders.

 

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #28)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:00 PM

62. You do realize what I am saying when I say he is a Democrat?

 

Right?
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #25)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:11 PM

51. A certain coalition would never do that, right?

 

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Response to Cary (Reply #51)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:13 AM

92. Of course not...why they just want to win (sarcasm). All those who assured me that they

 

didn't want Sen. Sanders to run in 20 are now on the bandwagon. How will it end? He won't win the nomination in my opinion.
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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #11)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:28 PM

41. HR 15 never came to a vote and Beto was a co-sponsor.

 

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/15

The headline is false, probably intentionally so.
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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #41)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:12 PM

52. Facts.

 

Stubborn things they are.
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Response to Cary (Reply #52)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 06:07 PM

82. For some, facts never get in the way of a good smear.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #82)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 06:57 PM

85. True

 

I am dealing with some "conservative" morons on Facebook. I am so disgusted with those people. They are pushing the Omar is an anti-Semite crap really, really hard.

I come here and find the same kind of partisan smear crap. WTF?
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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #11)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:09 PM

50. Can you help me out and not do non sequitur?

 

Or not. I don't know what you think you're referring to. I believe my statement was clear. I meant what I said, and said what I meant.

So which part of "I prefer Democrats" tripped you up?
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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:49 AM

10. No one did, I looked it up.

 

And Beto was actually a co-sponsor of one of them.
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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:17 AM

2. OOPS

 


Thanks for posting!!!

OS
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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:32 AM

5. Can you post the full vote counts?

 

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:56 AM

14. BS didn't vote for HR 676 either when he was a congressman

 

Itís never come up for a vote. Nor did BS ever vote for the senate version of the bill. No senator ever bothered to write one.
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Response to lapucelle (Reply #14)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:06 PM

31. Thank YOU!

 

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 12:59 PM

23. Not true.

 

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:31 PM

44. HR 15 never came to a vote and Beto was a co-sponsor.

 

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/15/cosponsors

The OP is wrong, as is their graphic.
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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:29 AM

3. Those are not vote counts. Those are sponsors.

 

As far as I can tell they were never voted on.
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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:37 AM

6. correct

 

...no further action on HR 676 since 2018 (added a sponsor).

No further action on HR 15 either, since 2017 when it was referred to the House Committee on Education and the Workforce.
.
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Response to bigtree (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:47 AM

8. Kicking for fact check and truth. nt

 

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:10 PM

34. LOL! OMG...people not even understanding what they're posting!

 

Just fyi: A group called "Demand for Universal Care" ENDORSED BETO.
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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #34)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:14 PM

53. I think OP knows what he is doing. It's deliberate.

 

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #53)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:45 PM

73. I realized that later. Pathetic. You only mislead when the truth doesn't support you.

 

I guess we should all know that by now.

Thanks.
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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:47 AM

9. Why are you spreading misinformation/lies?

 

None of this is true.

First of all HR 15 - Raise the Wage Act. Beto was a frickin co-sponsor of this bill. Here is the link to the ACTUAL bill, where you can find his name listed under co-sponsors. https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/15

Secondly, HR 676 only allowed for Medicare reimbursements to non-for-profit organizations and NOT for-profit (e.g. hospitals, private practices). That is why he didn't support it. He said he is considering sponsoring an amendment to the resolution to allow reimbursements to for-profits or creating an entirely new bill.

He has been vocal on his position on Healthcare, which you can see here:
https://egbertowillies.com/2018/02/11/beto-orourke-d-medicare-for-all/

Here we go again. I hope we don't see a repeat of 2016, but it looks like this Summer For Progress group is starting this right out of the gate.

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Response to Shell_Seas (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 12:50 PM

18. Look at the logos at the bottom of each. We know who they're aligned with, and for some reason...

 

...they have no qualms about misrepresenting the facts.
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Response to George II (Reply #18)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:11 PM

35. I thought the same thing, but I didn't want to say anything disparaging.

 

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Response to Shell_Seas (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:16 PM

38. That explains why group DEMAND UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE endorsed Beto in 2018.

 

https://votesmart.org/interest-group/2666/demand-universal-healthcare#.XIqL5ShKjIU

So did Planned Parenthood, the Sierra Club, NARAL pro-choice, Alliance for Retired Americans (protection of Social Security & Medicare), and others.

He's got liberal cred, for sure. Although he may not be far left. I don't know.

But he's where he needs to be, for MY key issues. No one is going to be 100%.
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Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:55 AM

13. No kidding.

 

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Response to Post removed (Reply #12)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 12:47 PM

16. Who thought it would be so soon, and with false representation of those graphics.

 

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 12:42 PM

15. Why are you misrepresenting those graphics? They aren't votes, they are co-sponsors....

 

...And they're not 100% accurate. We all know that many times legislators do not co-sponsor bills even if they actually support the bill.

Do you know how he voted on those two when they came up for a vote and if they passed?
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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 12:52 PM

19. #berniemath

 

#fleethebern

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 12:56 PM

20. Meh

 

Bernie people trying desperately to cut Beto down and failing.




Why don't the Bernie supporters post positive messages about why Bernie is better instead of cutting down the eventual nominee/s and damaging them irreparably?

Do Bernie supporters want Trump to win?
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Response to forklift (Reply #20)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 12:58 PM

22. The trouble is Sen Sanders is not better. Beto could give us Texas...no chance for that with

 

Sen. Sanders.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #22)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:00 PM

24. The whole plan seems to be

 

now that they know Bernie will not win the nomination ....to make every Democrat unfavorable so that Trump can win.

I have seen this movie before.
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Response to forklift (Reply #24)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:13 PM

36. Like a bad rerun. +100 -nt.

 

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Response to Amimnoch (Reply #36)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 05:34 PM

80. Yes....one would think the most important thing to any progressive would be to win...a few more

 

judges and it won't matter who wins for a generation.
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Response to forklift (Reply #24)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 05:32 PM

79. That was my fear.

 

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Response to forklift (Reply #24)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 02:26 PM

94. "now that they know Bernie will not win the nomination" ????

 

Why would you say that?

New Hampshire has always been an good indicator of the country. From two weeks ago:

https://scholars.unh.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1551&context=survey_center_polls


Sanders LEADS, even against Biden in this poll, which is rare. Even if he comes second to Biden in other polls, I do not know how you can go out on a limb and announce YOU know that THEY know their preferred candidate, that perpetually comes out on top or near the top of every poll, "will not win".


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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 12:57 PM

21. You should delete this...misinformation...Beto is a Democrat and is my second choice.

 

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #21)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:01 PM

27. The type of spam this Bernie fan is spreading... he's not likely to delete

 

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Response to scheming daemons (Reply #27)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:32 PM

88. The poster used to not do such stuff.

 

I have been wondering what happened as I read the almost blind advocacy posts that tear democrats down.
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Response to scheming daemons (Reply #27)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:24 AM

93. We have seen this sort of thing before. It is why most of us hoped Sanders would not run. nt

 

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:01 PM

26. Those aren't votes. This is a deliberate misrepresentation of the facts.

 

And we can see from the logos across the bottom who is responsible for this non factual garbage.
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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:03 PM

29. I don't care. I care only about whether he

 

or any other candidate can beat Trump. We canít afford the narcissism of ideological purity.
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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #29)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:20 PM

55. Not to mention, the information presented is DELIBERATELY FALSE - Beto co-sponsored

 

HR15 and the other one never came for a vote. This is typical of the lying and smearing we all saw before. Same bad actors. Same old shit.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:06 PM

30. you realize Nancy Pelosi

 

is on the right side of the first one too right?

LMAO.

What a fail.
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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:07 PM

32. Beto/Kamala

 

in some configuration will have my vote.
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Response to FrankBooth (Reply #32)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:31 PM

43. First configuration only

 

Beto would be wasted as vice president and Kamala is too easily tagged as California liberal from the top spot. I don't mind Kamala as bulldog #2 but her attack style would not hold up well as nominee. Charisma has to be first against an incumbent
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Response to Awsi Dooger (Reply #43)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:00 PM

49. Not sure I agree yet...

 

Frankly I feel both are wasted as VP, both worthy of the top spot, and I personally think Kamala has star power/charisma on the level of Beto. These are two of my favorite candidates in years, so I'm willing to wait and see how the primaries shake out, but we're lucky to have Dems of this caliber competing.
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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:07 PM

33. What's the link? nt

 

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:15 PM

37. You are trying to create an alternate reality. This is not a list of votes.

 

This is taking one thing and calling it something it is not in service of tearing an opponent down.
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Response to Politicub (Reply #37)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:18 PM

39. Beware posts that don't contain LINKS, and don't provide clear images.

 

That's the stuff of "fake news."
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Response to Politicub (Reply #37)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:44 PM

58. That's been pointed out several times here. I wonder why the OP doesn't explain the point.....

 

....of those graphics or, at best, delete the OP.

Not a single response since the OP was posted early this morning.
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Response to George II (Reply #58)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:53 PM

60. People should engage when they make an OP

 

Your post got me to thinking. I didnít realize the OP only posted this and hasnít participated in their own thread.

Whenever someone makes a post in this forum, I have an expectation that they will engage with others on that post. Breaking news is a little different. People donít necessarily need to Engage about a breaking news story if theyíre just reporting that it happened.

Clearly, this post was intended to make people question Betoís support of a universal system of healthcare. When in reality, he has spoken forcefully in favor of universal healthcare. I believe I read elsewhere, though my memory may not be right, of Beto saying he would use the affordable care act as the platform on which to build. I support that approach. People underestimate how broad and yes, wonderful, Obamacare is. The 10 essential health care benefits it defines make for comprehensive coverage. A public option is the missing link.
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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:21 PM

40. Do BS supporters realize that by posting falsehoods, they REDUCE support for their candidate?

 


If you were confident about Bernie, you wouldn't need to post misleading and lying threads about the other candidates.


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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:30 PM

42. HR 15 never came to a vote and Beto was a co-sponsor.

 

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/15/cosponsors

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:35 PM

46. Fake news !

 

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:43 PM

47. At the bottom of the site for Summer for Progress

 

it indicates the following:

PAID FOR BY OUR REVOLUTION

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As for the graphics:

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primary today, I would vote for:
Beto O'Rourke

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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #47)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:48 PM

75. +1

 

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:51 PM

48. Your title contains a falsehood. Beto never voted against HR 676.

 

It never came up for a vote. Saying somebody voted against a bill that the House never even voted on is out and out untrue.

Why would anybody spread a fake talking point here?

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #48)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:18 PM

54. You know why lapucelle and so does everyone else.

 

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #48)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:22 PM

56. Perhaps

 

The mother-land demands it. Same playbook, because it worked so very well last time.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:40 PM

57. What a dishonest post. Beto was a co-sponser.

 

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/15/cosponsors?q=%7B%22cosponsor-state%22%3A%22Texas%22%7D

Cosponsor Date Cosponsored

Rep. Castro, Joaquin [D-TX-20]* 05/25/2017
Rep. Jackson Lee, Sheila [D-TX-18]* 05/25/2017
Rep. Green, Al [D-TX-9]* 05/25/2017
Rep. Veasey, Marc A. [D-TX-33]* 05/25/2017
Rep. Green, Gene [D-TX-29]* 05/25/2017
Rep. Johnson, Eddie Bernice [D-TX-30]* 05/25/2017
Rep. Doggett, Lloyd [D-TX-35] 08/25/2017
Rep. O'Rourke, Beto [D-TX-16] 02/15/2018
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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:48 PM

59. Why haven't you deleted this post? n/t

 

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:00 PM

61. This reeks of desperation

 

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Cory Booker

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Response to 4now (Reply #61)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:04 PM

66. I am desperate, to crush Republicans

 

Does crap like the OP help us to crush Republicans?
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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:01 PM

63. sanders supporters and Fox are both scared of Beto

 

This Fox News oppo research amuses me

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:03 PM

64. So what?

 

His platitudes sound wonderful (swoon).
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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:03 PM

65. Oh sooo bookmarking this one.

 

Perfect fodder for when BS supporters complain about any fake or unfair stuff coming their way.
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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:22 PM

67. Let's face it, those running for office usually vote the way...

 

that those that give them money ask them to vote...including Bernie Sanders. Perhaps that's why B.S. has so many small dollar donors.
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Response to Stellar (Reply #67)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:26 PM

68. So true

 

Follow the money the saying goes.

It will cut out the facade and reveal the man or woman in reality.
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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #68)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:23 PM

69. No doubt.

 

Why Bernie Sanders is backing a $1.5 trillion military boondoggle

https://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/12/why-bernie-sanders-is-backing-a-15-trillion-military-boondoggle.html
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Response to WeekiWater (Reply #69)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:36 PM

70. Elizabeth Warren Also Got Asked About Banning Private Health Insurance. She Dodged the Question.

 

https://slate.com/business/2019/01/elizabeth-warren-dodges-kamala-harris-medicare-for-all-question.html

Wonder why Sen Warren is backing away from Medicare for all?
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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #70)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:41 PM

71. Do you understand medicare?

 

Can you show me where she is backing away from Medicare for All? You link doesn't back up your claim.

Then again, with an op like this one......

Part of Warren's reply at the link zero provided.

So, letís start with the battle weíre having right now and talk about the things we need to be doing, because I donít want to lose sight of this. Itís good to talk about our overall goal, and hereís our overall goal. This is what distinguishes Democrats from Republicans. Democrats believe health care is a basic human right. And we fight for basic human rights. Our obligation is to make sure that everybody gets coverage at the lowest possible cost to all of us. So what does that mean? Right now, it means fighting the Republicans who are trying to sabotage the Affordable Care Act. Weíve got this lawsuit going on down in Texas where the Republicans are trying to do what they couldnít do with the vote, and that is trying to repeal the Affordable Care Act, to make it OK to discriminate against people with pre-existing conditions, to cut off access to health care for millions of Americans. So job number one is to defend the affordable care act.

Job number two is to make changes where we need to make them right now. Changes to hold insurance companies accountable when theyíre trying to cheat people, when theyíre trying to scam people. Changes right now, and whatís happening with drugs, prescription drugs. We need to lower the cost of prescription drugs. One in four Americans say they canít take drugs that are prescribed to them because they canít afford to pay for them. I have, for example here, a proposal for generic drugs, which are about 90 percent of prescriptions that people fill, to bring those costs down to just a nominal cost.

And the third, how do we get universal coverage. Medicare for all. Lots of paths for how to do that. But we know where we are aiming. And that is, every American has health care at a price they can afford. And that the overall costs in the system are held as low as possible.

So right now, there are multiple bills on the floor in the United States Senate. Iíve signed onto Medicare for All. Iíve signed on to another one that gives an option for buying in to Medicaid. There are different ways we can get there. But the key has to be always keep the center of the bullseye in mind. And that is affordable health care for every American.


I see no support for the military boondoggle there. Nice deflection.

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Response to WeekiWater (Reply #71)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:43 PM

72. Sure whatever

 

If you dispute the article take it up with the author.
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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #72)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:45 PM

74. I don't dispute the article.

 

I dispute your faulty characterization.

I like her answer. I just posted it so it provides more transparency than your comments with just the drop of your link. Just like the op has been thoroughly vetted.
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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #72)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 06:32 PM

84. Your subject line is a lie

 

The flyer doesn't say what you said. You made it up and now refuse to admit a mistake. Maybe it's not a mistake.
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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #70)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 05:31 PM

78. Maybe she realizes it is politically smart.

 

Google the Clinton care...that was an attempt to force all on one plan...failed miserably.
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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #68)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 06:03 PM

81. Are you planning on addressing the misleading OP subject line, calling co-sponsorships "votes"?

 

Those two graphics in your OP represent those Democrats who co-sponsored the two bills in question, not any subsequent votes.

Thanks!

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Response to George II (Reply #81)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 02:49 AM

90. We've been angry that the media refuses to say that Trump lies when he lies

 

SO say it like it is here.

"Are you planning on addressing why you lied in the OP subject line?" is better. After all, we cannot attack Trump on things people do on our own side, like lying, not releasing taxes etc, if we do not also call it out on our side.
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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:51 PM

76. #facknews !

 

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 05:00 PM

77. $15/hr is causing businesses to close all over the country and causing

 

businesses to cut hours for workers. I heard that especially about restaurants. So I would consider it a good thing that Beto opposes it.
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Response to mr_liberal (Reply #77)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:27 PM

87. That isn't what happened here

 

It just went up to $16
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Response to mr_liberal (Reply #77)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 06:31 AM

91. That is rw bullshit.

 

Iím sure you ďheard thatĒ. Now do you have any actual evidence?
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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #91)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 08:33 PM

96. Did you mean to reply to the op? NT

 

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 06:29 PM

83. Anyone aiming at Dems rather than the fat, lying, treasonous racist and rapist, is not a Dem.

 

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 09:36 PM

86. Checking in to see how this one's going.

 

Much better than expected.

Fun fact: Unlike the votes mentioned in the op, did you know Sanders is on record as voting against a pathway to citizenship? Thatís not made up. Biden supported it in the same vote. As did a most Democrats.

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Response to WeekiWater (Reply #86)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:34 PM

89. Here is Beto's secret weapon against Fox News

 


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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 07:58 PM

95. Dishonest as hell. Delete your account

 

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