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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 07:53 PM

 

Wednesday Debate #1

The debate starts at 8pm EST. I won't make any predictions other than it won't be boring. Buckle up everyone!



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Beto O'Rourke

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MustLoveBeagles Jul 31 #5
customerserviceguy Jul 31 #10
MustLoveBeagles Jul 31 #26
customerserviceguy Jul 31 #34
Funtatlaguy Jul 31 #2
MustLoveBeagles Jul 31 #7
brooklynite Jul 31 #3
MFGsunny Jul 31 #4
customerserviceguy Jul 31 #6
Bettie Jul 31 #89
customerserviceguy Jul 31 #100
CentralMass Jul 31 #132
Bettie Jul 31 #149
CentralMass Jul 31 #160
demmiblue Jul 31 #8
Pachamama Jul 31 #9
MustLoveBeagles Jul 31 #16
Goodheart Jul 31 #11
nolabear Jul 31 #12
Funtatlaguy Jul 31 #13
customerserviceguy Jul 31 #14
ecstatic Jul 31 #15
demmiblue Jul 31 #17
customerserviceguy Jul 31 #18
nolabear Jul 31 #21
ecstatic Jul 31 #19
IcyPeas Jul 31 #25
brooklynite Jul 31 #20
customerserviceguy Jul 31 #22
ecstatic Jul 31 #35
ancianita Jul 31 #103
customerserviceguy Jul 31 #23
hlthe2b Jul 31 #28
Control-Z Jul 31 #131
karynnj Aug 1 #162
hlthe2b Aug 1 #163
femmedem Jul 31 #24
IcyPeas Jul 31 #27
IcyPeas Jul 31 #29
demmiblue Jul 31 #41
MustLoveBeagles Jul 31 #76
demmiblue Jul 31 #98
MustLoveBeagles Jul 31 #125
ancianita Jul 31 #109
drray23 Jul 31 #30
edhopper Jul 31 #39
demmiblue Jul 31 #31
IcyPeas Jul 31 #61
nolabear Jul 31 #32
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dflprincess Jul 31 #36
lapucelle Jul 31 #69
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MustLoveBeagles Jul 31 #141
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MustLoveBeagles Jul 31 #147
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IcyPeas Jul 31 #144
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 07:56 PM

1. KR.. you had so much

 

fun last night!

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primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Response to Cha (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:07 PM

5. I'll try to keep a sense of humor about it

 

Otherwise I'd be plucking out my hair in frustration. I wouldn't look good bald.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Reply #5)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:09 PM

10. The National Anthem singer does, though!

 

And those glasses!
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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #10)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:21 PM

26. Yeah

 

She did a great job.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Reply #26)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:24 PM

34. Motown is one of America's great musical treasures. n/t

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 07:57 PM

2. I do love beagles, all dogs, in fact, and all Dems.

 

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Elizabeth Warren

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #2)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:08 PM

7. ...

 

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primary today, I would vote for:
Beto O'Rourke

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 07:58 PM

3. 2 minute warning from the stage manager

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Pete Buttigieg

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:06 PM

4. K & R ... + 1,000,000 thanks for doing this again, MLB!

 


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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:08 PM

6. I see that nobody's making the Ryan mistake

 

with the hands over the hearts for the flag.
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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #6)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:37 PM

89. When did that become a thing?

 

Because I NEVER remember anyone putting their hand over their heart for the anthem, that was always reserved for the Pledge.
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Response to Bettie (Reply #89)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:39 PM

100. When it got discussed during and after the debate

 

Even Colbert noted it in his monologue last night.
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Response to Bettie (Reply #89)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:49 PM

132. Since Decemberr 22 of 1942.

 

http://www.usflag.org/uscode36.html
The US Flag Code.
"A few minor changes were made a year later during the Flag Day 1924 Conference, It was not until June 22, 1942 that Congress passed a joint resolution which was amended on December 22, 1942 to become Public Law 829; Chapter 806, 77th Congress, 2nd session. Exact rules for use and display of the flag (36 U.S.C. 173-178) as well as associated sections (36 U.S.C. 171) Conduct during Playing of the National Anthem, (36 U.S.C. 172) the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag, and Manner of Delivery were included."

UNITED STATES CODE
TITLE 36
CHAPTER 10
PATRIOTIC CUSTOMS
§ 170. National anthem; Star-Spangled Banner.
§ 171. Conduct during playing.

"§170. National anthem; Star-Spangled Banner
The composition consisting of the words and music known as The Star-Spangled Banner is designated the national anthem of the United States of America.


§171. Conduct during playing
During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Persons in uniform should render the military salute at the first note of the anthem and retain this position until the last note. When the flag is not displayed, those present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed there."
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Bernie Sanders

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Response to CentralMass (Reply #132)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:56 PM

149. I still don't recall it ever

 

being a thing when I was a kid and I got dragged to a bunch of baseball games.
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Response to Bettie (Reply #149)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:28 PM

160. I was born in 1960 and it was a thing in central Massachusetts

 

It was common practice at all of our local events in town and school events etc.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:08 PM

8. Buckling (though I don't think I will watch a lot... too tired). n/t

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:08 PM

9. Where is the debate? I see a test of how people need to put their hand over their heart

 

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Kamala Harris

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Response to Pachamama (Reply #9)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:15 PM

16. I don't see the point of doing this either

 

The singer had a beautiful voice though. Have other debates in the past started with the SSB? I've watched most of them starting in the early nineties and don't remember them doing this?
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:10 PM

11. I hope the debate is better than the National Anthem performance.

 

That was some weird enunciation.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:10 PM

12. I'm risking aggravating my tendinitis to be here. But dammit,

 

GO JOE!
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:11 PM

13. In case you didn't hear the Biden/Harris exchange:

 

Joe said to her: Go easy on me.
Kamala: we good?
Joe: yeah, we’re good.
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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #13)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:12 PM

14. Like

 

two boxers shaking hands before a fight.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:15 PM

15. What was the heckler saying? nt

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:15 PM

17. What is that yelling about?

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:15 PM

18. Somebody started

 

yelling at the end of de Blasio's opening statement, anybody catch it?
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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #18)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:16 PM

21. No, but I'll bet he's been escorted far, far away.

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:16 PM

19. Bennet is talking too slow. I like the substance though. nt

 

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Elizabeth Warren

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #19)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:20 PM

25. it's funny, I noticed that too...

 

he kept losing me... when talking so s-l-o-w.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:16 PM

20. Bill De Blasio took on Biden and Harris directly...

 

He also got heckled, I suspect by the Police union.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:16 PM

22. Did Inslee wear glasses at the first debate?

 

I don't remember.
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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #22)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:24 PM

35. I don't think so. I don't recognize this look. nt

 

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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #22)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:40 PM

103. He wears them when he needs them. It's a pretty standard look for him.

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:18 PM

23. Gillibrand is blinking

 

like a railroad crossing.
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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #23)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:22 PM

28. Taking credit for the 911 bill that HRC originally got through with Schumer...

 

I'm sure she helped with the renewal, but that wasn't her implication..
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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #28)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:49 PM

131. Not for the first time.

 

It's what she does. I wonder how the Clintons feel about her after all they've done for her.
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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #28)

Thu Aug 1, 2019, 03:22 AM

162. GILLIBRAND was in the house in 2001

 

The bill to help NY was likely led by the NY delegation there. It also had the support of the various committees that had written similar bills in the past. It was not just the 2 NY senators.
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Response to karynnj (Reply #162)

Thu Aug 1, 2019, 05:54 AM

163. I know the history of that bill. It was HRC and Schumer that pushed it immediately.

 

That is BS revisionist history to give Gillibrand credit for what HRC absolutely made happen. It wasn't Gillibrand down at the site with the mayor and governor immediately afterward. It was HRC.

Did she support HRC's bill? Well, I'd sure as hell hope so.

Desperation. What next? She was with Trump doing clean up?
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:20 PM

24. Goddamn I love Inslee.

 

He's right. He was my initial first choice and I still wish he was doing better in the polls.
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Response to femmedem (Reply #24)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:21 PM

27. let's see how he comes thru tonight.

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:23 PM

29. what were they saying?

 

why are there 2 threads?
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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #29)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:25 PM

41. Because someone didn't look before they posted the second one.

 

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #41)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:34 PM

76. It's no big deal

 

The more the merrier.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Reply #76)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:39 PM

98. Heh!

 

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #98)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:47 PM

125. Cute gif

 

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #29)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:41 PM

109. There were four during the last debates, remember? We're a big place. There's room enough for two.

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:23 PM

30. What are they yelling at booker ? Anybody caught it ?

 

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Response to drray23 (Reply #30)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:24 PM

39. Sounded like either

 

Fire in the hole

or

Farmer in the dell.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:23 PM

31. More heckling. What are they saying?

 

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #31)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:29 PM

61. just looked at Cory Booker's Twitter

 

somehow he posted 30 seconds ago and 7 seconds ago. one of the comments is Do you have your phone on stage?

obviously a staffer?
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:24 PM

32. Oh my god. They're shouting Booker down. This is disgusting.

 

This is organized, disgusting garbage.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:24 PM

33. What are these interrupters chanting?

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:24 PM

36. Could anyone make out what was being shouted while Booker was making his opening statement? nt

 

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Response to dflprincess (Reply #36)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:31 PM

69. This is all I could find.

 





Nate Silver
8:26 PM

I guess if you’re gonna interrupt a debate, and you want to get a message out, it ought to be a fairly *specific* ask you’re making. I don’t know why they interrupted Booker; maybe they figured he’s the closest thing to representing NYC after de Blasio. Or maybe they figured that Staten Island should be part of New Jersey!


https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/second-democratic-debate-night-two/
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Response to lapucelle (Reply #69)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:33 PM

72. Thanks!

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:24 PM

37. What was that yelling about?

 

From the audience?

They interrupted Cory.

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:24 PM

38. What's with the chanting?

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:24 PM

40. Protesters?

 

Anyone catch what they were chanting?
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:25 PM

42. Most guys pecked Kamala and Kirsten. If Biden had done it, there would have been outrage. NT

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:25 PM

43. Jay Inslee with the most important message so far.

 

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Response to Goodheart (Reply #43)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:29 PM

62. Yes. Important and impassioned.

 

I think he knows that this might be his last debate and he is desperate to get his message heard. Not for his career. For our lives.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:25 PM

44. Mike problems for both Yang and Harris. Hopefully fixed

 

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #44)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:27 PM

50. I didn't notice last night

 

but everybody's got two microphones in front of them, one in the lecturn, and a clip-on one.
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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #50)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:28 PM

56. Last night was technically flawless.

 

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #56)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:29 PM

63. I think the sound engineers

 

didn't want to have a repeat of the first debate!
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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:26 PM

45. Bravo, Joe!!!!!

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:27 PM

48. +1

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:30 PM

66. you know he wanted to tell #fatdonnie to get the fuck out

 

it is a big fucking deal
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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:27 PM

46. Hell yes-that was MY BIDEN

 

Love it
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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:28 PM

57. He sold it. n/t

 

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47. JOOOOOOOOOEEEEEE!!!!!

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:28 PM

54. That was Awesome!

 

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49. Excellent Joe.

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:27 PM

51. Biden with the best opening statement. Inslee with the most important.

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:28 PM

52. Just say what the plan is.

 

FFS
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53. RE: DeBlassio:

 


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55. They're setting Harris up to fight. She's not taking the bait so far.

 

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58. Joe kicking tRump's rump

 

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59. Great start Joe! You hit a home run.

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:33 PM

74. He did well....

 

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60. Kamala's answer is more legalese. All she had to do

 

was clearly articulate her plan.
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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:30 PM

65. That was not good.

 

What's her plan?
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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:31 PM

67. Something to do with babies n/t

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:32 PM

71. I don't know either.

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:39 PM

99. Kamala's plan is Bernie's plan, which is the best plan.

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:30 PM

64. I wonder if Harris is letting Joe come forward so she can rebut.

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:31 PM

68. Biden getting revenge

 

Nobody’s gonna be nice tonight! Fightin’ Joe! The gloves are off and it’s a bare knuckles free for all!
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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:32 PM

70. Sorry, Joe... this STATUS QUO plan of yours SUCKS.

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:33 PM

73. It's not status quo. It's building on a plan that's viable.

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:34 PM

75. By the guy who got the ACA through Congress, no less. n/t

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:36 PM

81. The ACA is not cutting it.

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:38 PM

94. Because it's been absolutely decimated by the Trump administration.

 

Under the right leadership, it could be built back into what it was supposed to be.
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Response to Goodheart (Reply #81)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:40 PM

105. we can do better

 

We can do better than taping together more crap based on disingenuous cover rationalizations for big business private insurance companies. "Keep your employer based plan" is a copout for not dealing with the real issue.
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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #105)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:11 PM

152. Better? Like waiting another 20-40 years for something that could get passed?

 

Ted Kennedy put single payer on the table in 1971.

Nixon rejected it and offered a plan that was to the left of the ACA. Democrats told Ted to walk away from anything but single payer, ostensibly because they thought they could do better. He did.

Kennedy said it was one of the biggest regrets of his political career, because if he hadn't walked away, we might actually have something near to what Canada has.

The ACA is the farthest down the road we have ever come to universal health care.





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Response to ehrnst (Reply #152)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:00 PM

157. I remember that the "we can do better" argument was made in 1993-1994

 

when we needed all hands on deck for Bill Clinton's healthcare bill.

Instead of "getting better," we got nothing until 2009.



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Response to lapucelle (Reply #157)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:02 PM

158. Making "better" the enemy of "getting actual care to more people now, not years from now"

 

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #152)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:11 PM

159. Yup. We let the perfect become the enemy of the good, and we ended up with nothing.

 

According to a Harvard study, 45,000 Americans were dying due to lack of health coverage EACH YEAR before the ACA. So basically 1.7M Americans needlessly died between 1971 and 2009 because we didn't cut that deal with Nixon.
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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:35 PM

78. It is continuing a terrific program Obama started which Trump blocked. Under Biden, it can be

 

tweaked and work as intended.
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Response to emmaverybo (Reply #78)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:37 PM

90. Sorry, but it's NOT a terrific plan. Having paid $900 per month for just myself I should know.

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:48 PM

155. Costs must come down. The coverage is good. Premiums can be brought down. The income

 

eligibility to get a break is simply too low. No need to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Many
are very happy with ACA.
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Response to emmaverybo (Reply #155)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:50 PM

156. Including private insurance companies is a HINDRANCE to getting costs down.

 

The ACA is not sacred. It's not even what Obama really wanted, but only that which he thought might get bipartisan agreement. Even he now says Medicare for All is a good idea. Private insurance companies as the biggest decider of our healthcare system MUST END.... like the rest of the civilized world.
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Thu Aug 1, 2019, 01:10 AM

161. Now. And because you and Warren say so. And the replacement MUST be M4A despite many

 

other options that would get us to universal coverage.
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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:35 PM

77. Gillibrand was impressive, performance-wise. n/t

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:36 PM

80. A little shrill there at one point, though. n/t

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:37 PM

86. ...

 

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #86)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:38 PM

95. She got high pitched for a second or two.

 

The other women look calm and measured, yet still strong.
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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:36 PM

79. Wow why does Harris have the knives out for Biden? She's almost coming across as angry --

 

she doesn't need to do that. I really like her but she's surprising me.
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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:37 PM

83. I expected that, didn't you? I'm sure Joe did. n/t

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:37 PM

84. She is showing a kind of unseemly hostility. NT

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:40 PM

108. ...

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:39 PM

96. I like the anger when focused on the right person-- trump. nt

 

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82. OK. Booker is doing good so far. Taking the high road. nt

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:37 PM

87. But dodging the question. n/t

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:38 PM

91. Excellent dodge though. Made me forget the question. nt

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:39 PM

97. Bwah! Mission Accomplished!! nt

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:40 PM

107. Alexander Haig was good at that. n/t

 

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #82)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:38 PM

93. Yes, that was an excellent response.

 

It didn't clearly answer the question, but it allowed him to stand out with a clip that will likely be replayed, attacked the right target, and didn't give anyone anything to use against him.

Also, after attacking Biden a few weeks ago, it repositioned him as a voice for Democratic unity.
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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:37 PM

85. Okay, found you. I see you started this first, but the other was the first I saw. I'll be around.

 

This is all gonna work out.
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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:38 PM

92. hi. enjoy

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:37 PM

88. I hate the way they question....Con so and so how do you feel about cong so and so

 

Booker is right

STOP pitting Dem against Dem
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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:40 PM

104. It's like they're trying to stir things up -- they did it last night, too. nt

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:40 PM

101. I like Kamala a lot, but is she going to do anything but attack Biden all night?

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:40 PM

102. joe is stuttering a bit

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:42 PM

110. Yeah, Bernie did that a bit last night. n/t

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:42 PM

111. Took him a long time to conquer it. It's a lifelong concern.

 

I was once married to a man who had a stutter. It’s really tough to get fluid and past certain sounds.
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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:42 PM

112. Joe grew up with a debilitating stammer that he overcame by reciting poetry while

 

watching himself in the mirror. I know what you're saying though, and I hate to see that.
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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:43 PM

114. omg I didn't know this. thanks

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:44 PM

118. Me either, he seems to have done a remarkable job conquering it. n/t

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:47 PM

124. I think this is different, though -- like he's trying to think of a bunch of things at once and

 

deciding on which to say. Just IMO. I only mentioned his stammer as an interesting tidbit about him -- something that you'd never guess. Not a criticism of your comment.
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Response to gateley (Reply #124)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:50 PM

139. it is an interesting tidbit about him

 

I worked with a man who had a terrible stutter but get this. He used to dictate tapes all the time and he was PERFECT in his dictation. it's a funny thing.
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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:40 PM

106. That sudden shutting up when times up is odd, Joe.

 

It has to be deliberate. Wonder why he’s doing it.
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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:42 PM

113. It's a contrast with Harris

 

who keeps going after two, "Thank you, Senator Harris" remarks from the mods.
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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:43 PM

115. True dat.

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:43 PM

116. He had a lifelong stuttering - its how he trained to stop it

 

Along with reciting poetry
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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:44 PM

117. Can someone clarify private vs public medicare plans? nt

 

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #117)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:45 PM

122. Yes please!

 

I thought I understood but clearly I don’t.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:45 PM

119. New Thread

 

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287220015
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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:45 PM

120. Not good for Kamala on the Health Care back and forth

 

Bennet is coming across as much stronger, imo.
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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:48 PM

127. So you're watching?

 

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=218819
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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:45 PM

121. Tired of candidates trying to deflect criticism from their own party members by calling it

 

Republican Talking Points. Harris just did this.
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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:49 PM

133. The argument about "losing your employer based insurance"..

 

In response to going to a universal system in which everyone would be covered is a republican talking point and as De Blasio said its fear mongering. Its also a conservative talking point to emphasize taxes when everyone's costs go down.
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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #133)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:44 PM

154. I don't care whose point it is. Answer the question. Rebut the argument rather than label it to

 

dismiss it.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:46 PM

123. Inslee highlighting the need for mental healthcare.

 

After the age of Trump, this is especially important!
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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:48 PM

128. Absolutely

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:47 PM

126. Yang nailed healthcare in 30 seconds.

 

In plain english.
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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:49 PM

130. He's smart and has great ideas

 

I really like a lot of our candidates this time around, most of them in fact.
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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:49 PM

134. Indeed.

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:50 PM

137. Didn't he though? I really like him. nt

 

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129. Biden and Bennet don't understand the economics of our healthcare situation.

 

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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:50 PM

138. Joe's nailing this

 

especially with the jail remark!
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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #138)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:53 PM

143. He's losing me. He doesn't know what he's talking about, sorry.

 

Will taxes go up for people under Medicare for All? Well SURE... but what he doesn't understand is that TOTAL COSTS will GO DOWN for people, just as it has in every other developed country on this planet..
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Response to Goodheart (Reply #143)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:57 PM

150. Joe will not be the pushover that Delaney was for Warren. n/t

 

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Response to Goodheart (Reply #129)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:52 PM

142. Yeah sure and you do ?

 

You think somebody like Biden who was instrumental in helping pass the ACA and has worked on these issues for a long time does not know anything about it ? That's a bit preposterous. Disagreeing with his plan is fine, saying he is ignorant of issues is a bit much.
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Response to Goodheart (Reply #129)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:54 PM

146. Biden was deeply involved in creating the ACA.

 

It's ridiculous to suggest he doesn't understand the health care system - he probably knows more about it than anyone on that stage.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:50 PM

135. Release the malarkey!

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:50 PM

136. He said malarkey!

 

30 minutes into the debate, Joe Biden unleashed his signature retort ! Go Joe!
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Response to drray23 (Reply #136)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:51 PM

141. Take a drink

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Reply #141)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:53 PM

145. One for each malarkey 😁

 

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Response to drray23 (Reply #145)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:55 PM

147. I hope he doesn't say it too often or we're all in trouble

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:51 PM

140. Kamala just called Biden's plan what I called it: STATUS QUO

 

Joe does NOT understand the economics of our healthcare situation.
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:53 PM

144. GUYS, go to new thread please ((( DEBATE THREAD #2)))

 

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287220015

we are over there now for thread number 2
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:56 PM

148. Good grief is there no other way to talk about immigration than decriminalization?

 

FFS!! - What about asking Castro said? How do you deal with the countries they are coming from? How do you help the countries they are coming from? Should we send armed help to deal with gang violence? Should we assist in rebuilding those countries? Should we provide financial incentives to stay?
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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:00 PM

151. I like Yang

 

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:33 PM

153. It was Harris turn in the grinder.

 

Her behavior as a prosecutor is being examined.
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