
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:27 PM
Cha (269,194 posts)
BS Disses Dems at Debate.. "I get a little bit tired of Democrats afraid of big ideas," Sanders began. "Republicans are not afraid of big ideas. They could give a trillion dollars in tax breaks to billionaires and profitable corporations."
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/democratic-debate-2019-live-updates-night-debates-underway/story?id=64629808 Has he read the DNC Platform and has he bothered to hear what the other 2020 Candidates are proposing!? Did he forget about the ACA that Passed! And, the Fascists have been trying for years to Delete from History?! No one is "afraid", BS.. those are just your insulting words. So not impressed.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
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Cha | Jul 2019 | OP |
Cha | Jul 2019 | #1 | |
leftieNanner | Jul 2019 | #2 | |
Cha | Jul 2019 | #8 | |
Thekaspervote | Jul 2019 | #3 | |
Cha | Jul 2019 | #9 | |
comradebillyboy | Jul 2019 | #4 | |
Cha | Jul 2019 | #17 | |
comradebillyboy | Jul 2019 | #54 | |
Cha | Jul 2019 | #109 | |
True Blue American | Jul 2019 | #104 | |
Gothmog | Jul 2019 | #72 | |
flying_wahini | Jul 2019 | #5 | |
Hekate | Jul 2019 | #74 | |
George II | Jul 2019 | #6 | |
Gothmog | Jul 2019 | #73 | |
Cha | Jul 2019 | #93 | |
George II | Jul 2019 | #97 | |
Cha | Jul 2019 | #108 | |
lapucelle | Jul 2019 | #7 | |
leftieNanner | Jul 2019 | #11 | |
we can do it | Jul 2019 | #30 | |
Cha | Jul 2019 | #57 | |
silentEcho | Jul 2019 | #67 | |
cab67 | Jul 2019 | #77 | |
lapucelle | Jul 2019 | #10 | |
Cha | Jul 2019 | #14 | |
lapucelle | Jul 2019 | #21 | |
Cha | Jul 2019 | #28 | |
sheshe2 | Jul 2019 | #34 | |
radical noodle | Jul 2019 | #12 | |
SergeStorms | Jul 2019 | #78 | |
radical noodle | Jul 2019 | #83 | |
JI7 | Jul 2019 | #13 | |
Vegas Roller | Jul 2019 | #25 | |
Gothmog | Jul 2019 | #75 | |
Go Vols | Jul 2019 | #107 | |
UniteFightBack | Jul 2019 | #15 | |
mcar | Jul 2019 | #16 | |
Quackers | Jul 2019 | #23 | |
we can do it | Jul 2019 | #31 | |
jcgoldie | Jul 2019 | #18 | |
JoeOtterbein | Jul 2019 | #19 | |
Cha | Jul 2019 | #26 | |
jcgoldie | Jul 2019 | #29 | |
sheshe2 | Jul 2019 | #37 | |
Cha | Jul 2019 | #46 | |
sharedvalues | Jul 2019 | #52 | |
lapucelle | Jul 2019 | #33 | |
jcgoldie | Jul 2019 | #35 | |
sheshe2 | Jul 2019 | #38 | |
jcgoldie | Jul 2019 | #42 | |
lapucelle | Jul 2019 | #53 | |
jcgoldie | Jul 2019 | #56 | |
lapucelle | Jul 2019 | #70 | |
sheshe2 | Jul 2019 | #79 | |
Doitnow | Jul 2019 | #66 | |
lapucelle | Jul 2019 | #41 | |
jcgoldie | Jul 2019 | #44 | |
lapucelle | Jul 2019 | #48 | |
jcgoldie | Jul 2019 | #50 | |
lapucelle | Jul 2019 | #59 | |
jcgoldie | Jul 2019 | #61 | |
lapucelle | Jul 2019 | #63 | |
Cha | Jul 2019 | #87 | |
True Blue American | Jul 2019 | #105 | |
Cha | Jul 2019 | #40 | |
Gothmog | Jul 2019 | #98 | |
Cha | Aug 2019 | #110 | |
LakeArenal | Jul 2019 | #20 | |
question everything | Jul 2019 | #22 | |
Vegas Roller | Jul 2019 | #24 | |
dem4decades | Jul 2019 | #45 | |
Skid Rogue | Jul 2019 | #27 | |
Ponietz | Jul 2019 | #32 | |
Cha | Jul 2019 | #36 | |
NYMinute | Jul 2019 | #39 | |
mtnsnake | Jul 2019 | #43 | |
Cha | Jul 2019 | #47 | |
watoos | Jul 2019 | #62 | |
Skid Rogue | Jul 2019 | #49 | |
silentEcho | Jul 2019 | #51 | |
maryallen | Jul 2019 | #55 | |
Gothmog | Jul 2019 | #99 | |
vercetti2021 | Jul 2019 | #58 | |
NYMinute | Jul 2019 | #60 | |
JI7 | Jul 2019 | #64 | |
onetexan | Jul 2019 | #65 | |
Hekate | Jul 2019 | #68 | |
Princetonian | Jul 2019 | #69 | |
Gothmog | Jul 2019 | #71 | |
myohmy2 | Jul 2019 | #76 | |
sheshe2 | Jul 2019 | #81 | |
Tiggeroshii | Jul 2019 | #80 | |
BootinUp | Jul 2019 | #82 | |
Gothmog | Jul 2019 | #84 | |
UniteFightBack | Jul 2019 | #85 | |
betsuni | Jul 2019 | #86 | |
Cha | Jul 2019 | #88 | |
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Cha | Jul 2019 | #92 | |
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Tarheel_Dem | Jul 2019 | #89 | |
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still_one | Jul 2019 | #94 | |
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Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:29 PM
Cha (269,194 posts)
1. KICK!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:30 PM
leftieNanner (9,257 posts)
2. Agree
BS is not my choice this time.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to leftieNanner (Reply #2)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:36 PM
Cha (269,194 posts)
8. Mahalo, leftieNanner!
![]() ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:31 PM
Thekaspervote (17,709 posts)
3. I for one will be happy to see him back in the senate
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #3)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:38 PM
Cha (269,194 posts)
9. It will be grand, thekaspervote!
![]() ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:32 PM
comradebillyboy (8,480 posts)
4. I get a little bit tired of Bernie bashing Democrats and the Democratic
Party.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #4)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:49 PM
Cha (269,194 posts)
17. Exactly what I was thinking, comradebillyboy!
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Reply #17)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:38 PM
comradebillyboy (8,480 posts)
54. Always nice to hear from you Cha.
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #54)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 03:42 PM
Cha (269,194 posts)
109. U2!
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Reply #17)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:13 AM
True Blue American (13,134 posts)
104. Or this.
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #4)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:28 PM
Gothmog (92,087 posts)
72. I am tired of sanders bashing real democrats
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden This is the DU member formerly known as Gothmog.
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Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:33 PM
flying_wahini (2,908 posts)
5. Me too. He said that after hearing 5 big ideas. He's not listening to the others.
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to flying_wahini (Reply #5)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:30 PM
Hekate (67,081 posts)
74. The only voice he hears is his own, which is too bad
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:33 PM
George II (60,647 posts)
6. I saw that, he violated "The Pledge" at a DNC debate! I'm tired of those who bash Democrats.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to George II (Reply #6)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:30 PM
Gothmog (92,087 posts)
73. sanders has violated the pledge repeatedly
sanders’ pledge is not to be trusted
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden This is the DU member formerly known as Gothmog.
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Response to George II (Reply #6)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 04:09 AM
Cha (269,194 posts)
93. What a soundbyte..
for repubs!
"I get a little bit tired of Democrats afraid of big ideas," Sanders began. "Republicans are not afraid of big ideas. They could give a trillion dollars in tax breaks to billionaires and profitable corporations."
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/democratic-debate-2019-live-updates-night-debates-underway/story?id=64629808 ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Reply #93)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 07:55 AM
George II (60,647 posts)
97. I was so shocked by the first part that I didn't even register that second part....
....that just doubled down on the first half.
Bashing the Democrats and praising the republicans. Unbelievable! ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to George II (Reply #97)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 02:41 PM
Cha (269,194 posts)
108. Where was he when..
ACA was passed, DADA was overturned, Gay marriage was implemented, Dems Keep Fighting for Roe, improved the quality of air and water and kids lunches. Oh. And put a man on the moon!
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:34 PM
lapucelle (11,846 posts)
7. Isn't he a Democrat now? N/T
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to lapucelle (Reply #7)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:38 PM
leftieNanner (9,257 posts)
11. Nope
He will always have an I after his name.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to lapucelle (Reply #7)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:04 PM
we can do it (9,404 posts)
30. Never was never will be. Sick of BS
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to we can do it (Reply #30)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:46 PM
Cha (269,194 posts)
57. +1!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to lapucelle (Reply #7)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:16 PM
silentEcho (424 posts)
67. No
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to lapucelle (Reply #7)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:40 PM
cab67 (1,721 posts)
77. only when he's running for president.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:38 PM
lapucelle (11,846 posts)
10. I can't believe he said that at the Democratic debate.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to lapucelle (Reply #10)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:42 PM
Cha (269,194 posts)
14. I know, lapucelle.. I was
shaking with fury when I read that.
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Reply #14)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:53 PM
lapucelle (11,846 posts)
21. "I get a little bit tired of Democrats afraid of big ideas. Republicans are not afraid of big ideas"
That's a great soundbite for the Republicans in the GE.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to lapucelle (Reply #21)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:00 PM
Cha (269,194 posts)
28. Really! What was he thinking?!
Thank You!
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to lapucelle (Reply #21)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:07 PM
sheshe2 (70,568 posts)
34. I was SMDH.
He not only trashed Democrats by calling them fearful of big ideas ...He praised Republicans for embracing big ideas. UFB!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:40 PM
radical noodle (7,409 posts)
12. He's wrong anyway
Republicans ARE afraid of big ideas... they just want to keep us mired in the past.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to radical noodle (Reply #12)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:43 PM
SergeStorms (10,330 posts)
78. That doesn't fit the BS narrative.
He only likes to bash democrats. He's not going to get the democratic nomination, but I'd bet he runs as an independent in 2020, ensuring that Trump gets another four years and finishes destroying the U.S. That's just who BS is.
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to SergeStorms (Reply #78)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:19 AM
radical noodle (7,409 posts)
83. That's my fear
although he doesn't have to run as an independent to screw things up (as we all learned in another time).
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:40 PM
JI7 (83,290 posts)
13. he has been in office for decades, why didn't he do anything
to get his so called big ideas passed.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to JI7 (Reply #13)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:58 PM
Vegas Roller (704 posts)
25. He did name two post offices
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Vegas Roller (Reply #25)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:32 PM
Gothmog (92,087 posts)
75. I was about to mentioned this
sanders has no legislative accomplishments in the real world
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden This is the DU member formerly known as Gothmog.
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Response to JI7 (Reply #13)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:57 PM
Go Vols (5,902 posts)
107. .
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:43 PM
UniteFightBack (8,231 posts)
15. Republicans 'are not afraid of big ideas' because they don't fucking have any! nt
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:48 PM
mcar (35,662 posts)
16. I got so sick of his shouting
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mcar (Reply #16)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:55 PM
Quackers (2,255 posts)
23. This!
And also constantly trying to talk over everyone.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mcar (Reply #16)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:04 PM
we can do it (9,404 posts)
31. And finger wagging
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:49 PM
jcgoldie (7,355 posts)
18. I am not any fan of Sanders but the context is important...
I feel the need to add context. Tapper and Bash repeatedly set up Ryan, Bullock, and especially Delaney to attack Sanders and Warren with Republican talking points on topics like raising middle class taxes for healthcare and giving healthcare and free college to undocumented immigrants and the green new deal. Sanders was responding to those attacks from the "center" which were actually from the right. When he said "Democrats afraid of big ideas" he was referring to those individuals on stage. That was my impression.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to jcgoldie (Reply #18)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:52 PM
JoeOtterbein (5,623 posts)
19. +1 nt
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to jcgoldie (Reply #18)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:59 PM
Cha (269,194 posts)
26. So BS wasn't calling all Dems
"afraid of big ideas"? Just the ones on stage?
Because there are a lot of Dems who do Not want his "big idea" of M4all. And, they're not "afraid". They want something that will help all people without getting rid of ACA. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Reply #26)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:03 PM
jcgoldie (7,355 posts)
29. Well we can disagree on medicare for all
... but if you watched the debate I think you would agree there were at least 2 or 3 democrats on the stage who made their entire case based on opposition to "big ideas" on almost every topic.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to jcgoldie (Reply #29)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:10 PM
sheshe2 (70,568 posts)
37. Well if you are talking about Delaney that is true.
However Delaney's, bs does not all Democrats make.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to jcgoldie (Reply #29)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:22 PM
Cha (269,194 posts)
46. I just hope this doesn't make it into an ad for the Fascists..
"I get a little bit tired of Democrats afraid of big ideas," Sanders began. "Republicans are not afraid of big ideas"
![]() Which repubs are afraid of Big Ideas.. they want to live in the past.. in the draconian age. ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to jcgoldie (Reply #29)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:37 PM
sharedvalues (6,916 posts)
52. Correct
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to jcgoldie (Reply #18)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:06 PM
lapucelle (11,846 posts)
33. Then why did he say "Democrats"? We didn't he say "Our party is known for big ideas
like The New Deal, the Space Program, the Voting Rights Act, The Great Society, Medicare, and the Affordable Care Act"?
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to lapucelle (Reply #33)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:08 PM
jcgoldie (7,355 posts)
35. I felt like he was calling them out
...for being democrats who were not acting like democrats... I don't know. I'm still so pissed at Bernie over 2016 I doubt I'll ever let it go... but I felt like he was passionate and genuine tonight.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to jcgoldie (Reply #35)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:11 PM
sheshe2 (70,568 posts)
38. He said nothing new tonight. nt
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to sheshe2 (Reply #38)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:15 PM
jcgoldie (7,355 posts)
42. I get it
I mean whats he going to say new? And he's pretty much a broken record in a lot of cases... but when Jake Tapper is talking about raising taxes and Dana Bash is talking about border decriminalization... framing the debate for the right... Bernie's righteous indignation was warranted thats all I'm saying.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to jcgoldie (Reply #42)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:37 PM
lapucelle (11,846 posts)
53. There is nothing righteous about indignation at debate moderators for asking tough questions
that voters want answered.
Righteous indignation is typically a reactive emotion of anger over mistreatment, insult, or malice of another. It is akin to what is called the sense of injustice. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to lapucelle (Reply #53)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:45 PM
jcgoldie (7,355 posts)
56. baloney
Tough questions that voters want answered? Is that how you would characterize what Jake Tapper was doing tonight? I would call it sensationalizing politics in order to make it sport and provoke candidates to make soundbites. Do you think most voters want to know if undocumented immigrants should get healthcare? Is that what is somehow central to that debate? Come on.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to jcgoldie (Reply #56)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:27 PM
lapucelle (11,846 posts)
70. Middle class voters want to know whether programs will be funded with middle class tax hikes.
That is tough (but obvious) question that the candidates should have been prepared for.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to lapucelle (Reply #70)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:51 PM
sheshe2 (70,568 posts)
79. Of course we need to know this.
![]() We have questions that need to be answered not a brush off. Indignant that they were asked. ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to lapucelle (Reply #53)
Doitnow This message was self-deleted by its author.
Response to jcgoldie (Reply #35)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:14 PM
lapucelle (11,846 posts)
41. He said "Democrats". He didn't say "some Democrats". He didn't say "John Delaney and Tim Ryan".
Last edited Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:50 PM - Edit history (1) He said:
"I get a little bit tired of Democrats afraid of big ideas. Republicans are not afraid of big ideas." He was talking about the parties. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to lapucelle (Reply #41)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:18 PM
jcgoldie (7,355 posts)
44. I don't think thats what he said
I need to rewatch I guess. If thats what he said then I take back my defense.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to jcgoldie (Reply #44)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:25 PM
lapucelle (11,846 posts)
48. It's a direct quote at 9:33 on the ABC News live updates in the OP link. N/T
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to lapucelle (Reply #48)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:30 PM
jcgoldie (7,355 posts)
50. You added "are"
That implies an essential quality that rather changes the meaning of the statement.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to jcgoldie (Reply #50)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:57 PM
lapucelle (11,846 posts)
59. Not in my original headlline: "I get a little bit tired of Democrats afraid of big ideas.
Republicans are not afraid of big ideas."
So your argument is that BS only meant that some Democrats are afraid of big ideas, but because BS added "are" when he mentioned Republicans, he was actually saying that "not being afraid of big ideas" is an essential quality of Republicans? ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to lapucelle (Reply #59)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:03 PM
jcgoldie (7,355 posts)
61. Well
Democrats, afraid of big ideas...
Democrats ARE afraid of big ideas... mean different things... or they can depending on context. As I originally responded I felt the context in this case was that Bernie was responding to specific democrats on that stage. Maybe he still shouldn't have said it. Whatever, I can't believe I spent an hour defending Bernie fucking Sanders... but I still feel like if I have to pick a candidate from that stage tonight he would be in my top 5 but that isn't saying much I suppose given the bottom half. ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to jcgoldie (Reply #61)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:12 PM
lapucelle (11,846 posts)
63. Yet he still found somethong nice to say about Republicans in general as opposed to Democrats.
He shouldn't have said it.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to lapucelle (Reply #63)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:45 AM
Cha (269,194 posts)
87. Darn Straight! Yeah, like you say.. Horrible soundbyte for the repubs..
Or something like that!
![]() ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to lapucelle (Reply #41)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:57 AM
True Blue American (13,134 posts)
105. Epublicans do not have
Any big ideas,except tax cuts and killing regulations that keep us safe.
We all knew know big ideas seldom happen. The last one was the ACA and it killed Democrats until people found out Republicans were hell bent on taking it away! ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to lapucelle (Reply #33)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:14 PM
Cha (269,194 posts)
40. Thank You, lapucelle.. That would be putting
a positive look on the Democratic Party!
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to jcgoldie (Reply #18)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:51 AM
Gothmog (92,087 posts)
98. If the choice is between being woke and winning, I want to win
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden This is the DU member formerly known as Gothmog.
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Response to Gothmog (Reply #98)
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 01:38 AM
Cha (269,194 posts)
110. Thanks.. First BEAT trump then
go about getting things DONE!
I like Biden! ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:52 PM
LakeArenal (16,525 posts)
20. Big ideas, small ideas.
Any ideas that work would be nice.
B.S. in so many ways. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:53 PM
question everything (40,466 posts)
22. Right. If you are "tired" of the Demcorats, why, then are you running as one
without the decency of being one?
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:56 PM
Vegas Roller (704 posts)
24. Not shocking at all
He doesn't care about the Democratic party. He is a classic "user" like a guest who insists on sleeping in the master bedroom and then complains about the mattress, pillows and food.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Vegas Roller (Reply #24)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:22 PM
dem4decades (7,479 posts)
45. Nice.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:59 PM
Skid Rogue (711 posts)
27. This is my problem with Sanders in a nutshell!!!
If he's going to be so holier than thou, then just back away. Start your own party!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:05 PM
Ponietz (1,848 posts)
32. This:
[link:http://
Link to tweet ?s=21| ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Ponietz (Reply #32)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:09 PM
Cha (269,194 posts)
36. That twitterfeed isn't
happy with him, either.
Thank You! ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:14 PM
NYMinute (3,256 posts)
39. This is what the world calls
a "snake."
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:16 PM
mtnsnake (22,236 posts)
43. What about Williamson, Ryan, and Delaney who dissed Dems? Why nothing about them?
At least Sanders is telling the truth, and by telling the truth, maybe Dems will listen and learn to be as tough as he is when it comes to taking on the establishment.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Reply #43)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:25 PM
Cha (269,194 posts)
47. No, he isn't. And, I'll post what
I want to post.
You can post about who you want to. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Reply #47)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:11 PM
watoos (7,142 posts)
62. Didn't Warren say,
why are Democrats on this stage using Republican talking points when discussing Medicare for All?
It was a debate, it can get heated. IMO, the debate was set up to bring down Bernie and Warren. I mean the moderator asked the panel, are Bernies's ideas too radical to beat Trump? Who else got attacked like that? ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to mtnsnake (Reply #43)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:28 PM
Skid Rogue (711 posts)
49. You were here...
4 years ago. Do you think he helped get our Democratic candidate elected?
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:31 PM
silentEcho (424 posts)
51. Sanders is not a Democrat. Running in a Democratic primary.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:41 PM
maryallen (2,170 posts)
55. I didn't find what Bernie said insulting.
I found that he was well-informed and very capable of making his points clear.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to maryallen (Reply #55)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:55 AM
Gothmog (92,087 posts)
99. If sanders is the nominee, trump will win 45+ states
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden This is the DU member formerly known as Gothmog.
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Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:51 PM
vercetti2021 (5,178 posts)
58. I'm so over him
2016 was a different thing. We have much better candidates now and he can't stand the limelight being on others instead of him. The great divider of course.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:59 PM
NYMinute (3,256 posts)
60. Kick! nt
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:14 PM
JI7 (83,290 posts)
64. He Said Republicans have Big Ideas. no, THey have HATEFUL bigoted shitty ideas
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:14 PM
onetexan (9,051 posts)
65. This is why i said DNC shld not have allowed him to run on Dem ticket
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:26 PM
Hekate (67,081 posts)
68. Kick
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:27 PM
Princetonian (1,501 posts)
69. I get what Bernie is saying. He is not complimenting GOP ideas just their willingness to go for it.
For example, how many times do people here complain about Congressional Democrats not going for impeachment? You know if the shoe was on the other foot Republicans would have gone to impeachment a long time ago.
Democrats are far more individualistic and independent ("herding cats" ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:27 PM
Gothmog (92,087 posts)
71. If sanders is the nominee, trump will win 45+ states
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden This is the DU member formerly known as Gothmog.
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Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:38 PM
myohmy2 (2,047 posts)
76. what I heard...
...Bernie saying was republicans are willing to roll the dice on big shit they want while us Dems are all too often busy taking the high road, keeping our powder dry, playing our vest close to our cards...
...and I think many would agree that's the truth... ...I do... ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to myohmy2 (Reply #76)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:08 AM
sheshe2 (70,568 posts)
81. Zippitty do da.
Fact is we KNOW that the Russians have infiltrated the Republican party... Top down. Of course they can roll the dice as they please. Putin has their back. The Mueller report made it clear the others that were helped to take out our true President.
myohmy2
76. what I heard... ...Bernie saying was republicans are willing to roll the dice on big shit they want while us Dems are all too often busy taking the high road, keeping our powder dry, playing our vest close to our cards... ...and I think many would agree that's the truth... ...I do... I would prefer our Democrats take the high road over a foreign enemy. I am sure you do too. They are actually doing something about it. The investigations are real. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:56 PM
Tiggeroshii (11,088 posts)
80. Ever see a prime example of obfuscation?
This could be it
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Response to Cha (Original post)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:17 AM
BootinUp (40,260 posts)
82. This is banishment bait! Lol.
Because I feel constrained in giving my full opinion.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:21 AM
Gothmog (92,087 posts)
84. Biden won tonight
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden This is the DU member formerly known as Gothmog.
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Response to Cha (Original post)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:33 AM
UniteFightBack (8,231 posts)
85. Pukes have big ideas? Like that can occur when the party suffers from INTELLECTUAL ROT. nt
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:44 AM
betsuni (15,756 posts)
86. Sanders says his plan includes transition for coal workers and others in the industry to
green-oriented economy jobs.
If Hillary Clinton were president, that would be happening. It was a big important issue for her: "When I launched my campaign for President in June 2015, I specifically mentioned Coal Country and the need to help distressed communities make the transition to a more sustainable economic future. It was a call I'd repeat in nearly every speech I gave, all over the country. I also got to work developing the detailed plan to invest $30 billion in revitalizing coal communities that I mentioned earlier. Consulting with national experts and local leaders, my team came up with great ideas for new incentives to attract jobs and industries to Apppalachia, improving infrastructure and broadband internet, training programs that would lead to real jobs instead of worthless certificates, and more support for schools and students. We also worked with the United Mine Workers of America union on steps to hold the coal companies accountable and guarantee health care and a secure retirement for miners and their families. ... In the end, Peabody Energy, one of the biggest coal companies, agreed to extend benefits for more than twelve thousand retired miners and their families. If I had won the election, I would have used the full power of the federal government to do even more." Important point she makes: "Being part of a union is an important part of someone's personal identity. It helps shape the way you view the world and think about politics. When that's gone, it means a lot of people stop identifying primarily as workers -- and voting accordingly -- and start identifying and voting more as white, male, rural, or all of the above." Makes my blood boil when Democrats are accused of ignoring the working class and hating unions. Talking points that help Republicans destroy America. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to betsuni (Reply #86)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:57 AM
Cha (269,194 posts)
88. Thank You so much for Pointing Out this Important
History of the Dem Party, betsuni!
Specifically Hillary's Plans and Issues! I'm right there with you. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Reply #88)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:55 AM
betsuni (15,756 posts)
91. It was such an important issue for her, but she said people wanted anger, not plans.
I think this time people are tired of angry shouting and ready for plans.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to betsuni (Reply #91)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:59 AM
Cha (269,194 posts)
92. Yes.. definitely.. they see where
the "anger" got them.
I saw one tweet.. said Warren differentiated herself from BS by being Presidential.. he was just "angry". ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Reply #92)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 06:31 AM
betsuni (15,756 posts)
96. I have no idea what he means when he says he going to "take on" the fossil fuel industry.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to betsuni (Reply #86)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:27 AM
Tarheel_Dem (30,908 posts)
89. +1000
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:43 AM
emmaverybo (7,929 posts)
90. Bitterness does not become him. He is still not over 2016. NT
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 04:45 AM
still_one (76,802 posts)
94. All I know is this person hired people to high position in his campaign who hated Hillary, and
still do.
Some of those same people not only voted for Jill Stein, but encouraged others to do likewise in the general election. Why would I trust anything that this candidate says when he does something like that? ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to still_one (Reply #94)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 06:23 AM
betsuni (15,756 posts)
95. +1
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:55 AM
elocs (21,628 posts)
100. In my Wisconsin primary I will only vote for a Democrat.
Clearly, from his own mouth, Sanders does not consider himself a Democrat but he is not above using the party to seek the presidency.
Well even though the BoBs may pout again and withhold their votes in the general, I am sure the Democratic Party is too smart to nominate Sanders and there are plenty of other choices. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:56 AM
Gothmog (92,087 posts)
101. 'Joe Biden Won This Debate'
I agree with this analysis https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/07/31/dem-debate-gop-strategists-roundup-227491?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Joe Biden won this debate. The candidates on stage really went after each other tonight and in ways that highlighted how extreme some of their views are. The moderates on stage, who have no chance of winning, spent their time highlighting how far left and unelectable Warren and Sanders are. They were doing Biden’s work for him and he didn’t even get his hands dirty. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden This is the DU member formerly known as Gothmog.
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Response to Cha (Original post)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:01 AM
NurseJackie (37,568 posts)
102. I'm sick of these BS lies and smears against Democrats! And I'm not the only one who feels this way.
Has he read the DNC Platform and has he bothered to hear what the other 2020 Candidates are proposing!? Did he forget about the ACA that Passed! And, the Fascists have been trying for years to Delete from History?! Exactly right. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:01 AM
stonecutter357 (12,119 posts)
103. K&R
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Original post)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:41 PM
redstatebluegirl (11,263 posts)
106. No surprise here.
I got so tired of the finger pointing, yelling etc. He looked like an old uncle yelling at kids to get off his porch.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |