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Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 12:49 AM Jul 2019

No, Biden never claimed, as Jess McIntosh suggested, that seniors would be left with nothing.

This is a lie. Biden has never insinuated Bernie's plan would leave seniors with nothing.

Biden did mention a hiatus period, but later clarified the remarks:

What Biden was saying, Bates said, was that Sanders' plan for a sweeping overhaul of the health care system would take much longer than Biden's own plan to be approved by Congress -- so, under Sanders, there would be a hiatus between the status quo and the possible future arrival of an improved system.


https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/18/politics/biden-sanders-medicare-for-all-fact-check/index.html

Bernie's campaign is taking Biden's comments completely out of context. Biden also said this, which has conspicuously been left out:

"I don't want to start over. Because look, you know, how many of you out there have had someone you've lost to cancer? Or cancer yourself? No time, man. We cannot have a hiatus of six months, a year, two, three to get something done. People desperately need help now," Biden said Friday.


https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/18/politics/biden-sanders-medicare-for-all-fact-check/index.html

It's clear what Biden was referencing: the time it would take to expand the healthcare system under Bernie's plan could take significantly longer than, say, expanding the ACA with a public option since it already exists. This is a valid point since, likely, the next president is going to enter office with a Republican-controlled Senate.

It sounds like Bernie's campaign, and those associated with it, are being disingenuous which is funny considering that's something Trump does very well - and they're claiming Biden is sounding dangerously like him?
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No, Biden never claimed, as Jess McIntosh suggested, that seniors would be left with nothing. (Original Post) Drunken Irishman Jul 2019 OP
Thank you for the post and clarification! Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #1
Dawg.. Thank You! Cha Jul 2019 #2
The worst of it is Control-Z Jul 2019 #3
Exactly, Control-Z.. that's one Reason why Cha Jul 2019 #4
And I want to add Control-Z Jul 2019 #5
Yeah, this is a life and death Cha Jul 2019 #7
K&R betsuni Jul 2019 #6
The sanders campaign is pushing a false talking point Gothmog Jul 2019 #8
 

Thekaspervote

(35,546 posts)
1. Thank you for the post and clarification!
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 01:06 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(309,738 posts)
2. Dawg.. Thank You!
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 01:16 AM
Jul 2019

I just saw this earlier.. I see you saw it, too.. So Mahalo, again!

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=205573

I hate these people twisting Biden's word's every which way but Straight UP.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Control-Z

(15,686 posts)
3. The worst of it is
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 01:35 AM
Jul 2019

when/if Biden becomes our nominee the maggot will quote the same negative words (that other candidates have used against him during our primary) as proof that they are true (even though they're not).

We know this because most of us have seen it before - but really can't talk about it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(309,738 posts)
4. Exactly, Control-Z.. that's one Reason why
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 01:39 AM
Jul 2019

I'm so pissed!

And, Exactly Again!

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primary today, I would vote for:
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Control-Z

(15,686 posts)
5. And I want to add
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 01:48 AM
Jul 2019

I'm also tired of hearing the excuse that the leader in the race must get beat up, punched, battle tested by the left in order to prove him or herself.

Such a giant crock of crap.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(309,738 posts)
7. Yeah, this is a life and death
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 02:09 AM
Jul 2019

GE coming up in 2020.

Maybe leave the disingenuous Smears of Biden or anyone else sounding like trump.. " on the cutting room floor.

I think there will be karma for trying to smear Biden with trump.. I see so many Non-Biden supporters being Disgusted by it.

"I'm not even a Biden fan, but this is straight up bull sh*t. To state this is irresponsible & a bold faced lie. Like Trump/GOP want to save ACA"
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(161,739 posts)
8. The sanders campaign is pushing a false talking point
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 10:09 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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