Remember President Obama's first debate performance

[Control-Z]

for 2012 against Romney? We were all so disappointed. Then he came back and mopped the floor with him.

That is how I see Biden's performance Thursday night. The man spent 8 years governing and then went through personal tragedy and a very low period. So he's back but clearly out of practice. I expect he'll perform much better at the next debate.

[PoliticAverse]

1. Remember Biden's performance in the 2 prior Democratic Presidential primaries he was in ? n/t

[wyldwolf]

7. yes, he did well.

[Honeycombe8]

23. No. How did he do?

I'm guessing he made some gaffes, as he often does. But I don't remember that debate.

[JI7]

2. he doesn't practice . he didn't need to practice when it was the idiot Paul Ryan

but he has no interest in changing things. he hates campaigning.

[Blue_true]

4. Joe Biden isn't Barack Obama. Joe has a history of shooting himself in the foot in primaries.

The candidate whose chances I like best to take the nomination now is Warren. Harris is in a unique spot, her age makes her an ideal VP choice for a lot of candidates, assuming that she does not win the top spot.

[Control-Z]

5. Does Warren have any foreign policy experience

or has she offered any opinions on foreign affairs? This is probably the 6th time that I've asked the same question but I have yet to get an answer.

I would also like to know the same about Harris and a few others.

[Blue_true]

6. President Obama had no foreign policy experience to speak of.

There are people called advisors. I could be wrong, but most are selected for their expertise in a particular area. I assume Warren has heard about selecting advisors to advise her.

[Peacetrain]

8. President Obama had Joe Biden.. hey we can have Joe Biden too..

[bluewater]

9. Yes! Biden for Vice President, Again!

If President Obama thought Biden should be Vice President, well, that's good enough for me... I think Biden should be Vice President too!

When President Obama endorses Biden for President, I promise I will too.

until then... Biden for Vice President!

[Peacetrain]

11. Oh he is going to be a great President.. not to worry..

[Cha]

14. Please keep up.. Biden is running for POTUS 2020.

[Cha]

13. Well Done, Peacetrain! FTW!!!!!!!!!

[Blue_true]

15. Biden was not candidate Obama's principle foreign policy advisors.

Susan Rice and the woman (until she had to be let go for the Hillary attack) were.

[Cha]

16. Of course President Obama had help

from more than one person in his Admin.. including Joe Biden.

[Blue_true]

18. Why is it that Warren can't make similar choices?

The point that I made is her lack of foreign policy experience is not a large roadblock, there are plenty of people available to advise her in that area.

[Cha]

20. Didn't say she couldn't..and if she

gets the nom she will.

[Blue_true]

21. I really feel that our biggest problems are domestic right now.

But I am sure that she would not back out of important international agreements like Trump has, to our detriment.

[Cha]

25. Yes, big domestic problems but

also big worldly Planetary Problems, imv.

[Blue_true]

27. The two are interlinked. nt

[Blue_true]

17. Joe Biden was not his foreign policy advisors.

There were a number of people. He chose Biden to give him credibility there, but Warren can do the same. Why can't she? Is it because she is a woman? I see no logical reason why she can't do the very same things that President Obama did in that particular area.

[Peacetrain]

19. That is the great thing about VP Biden.. he was just not foreign policy. but everywhere

He has the experience of being that person who was 2nd in command.. he knows where the pitfalls and potholes are.. he also has his fingers on the redial of the best people in the nation to advise him.. that is not taking anything away from Sen Warren.. she is the choice of my husband.. first time ever we have picked different people.. and since both are 70 and over they are too old to be on the ticket together.. which is a damn shame.. but ageism is a real factor.. he will be a great President.. for one term.. and then the VP can take the next 8 and we will have a Rooseveltian revolution to set this country back on track.. 12 good solid years in the Exec. and if we can get some of our better people to back out of here and run for the senate and state houses.. oh that is my dream..

[Cha]

12. Said no one ever.

[LibFarmer]

22. Biden will sweep the South

There is no way Warren can win.

[Blue_true]

26. We will see.

In 2008 the early prediction was that Hillary would sweep the South. That changed fast. I have friends that I really trust for analysis. They have watched Warren up close, she is a dynamic campaigner who changes minds. Biden can't afford to keep making unforced errors because if he does, Warren is going to be even with him, my friends say in that situation, she would be the favorite because of how hard she works to change votes.

[Peacetrain]

10. I have listened to VP Biden for years.. and he is so good at promoting other people

and more hesitant about promoting himself.. he is more comfortable celebrating the accomplishments of others and tends to be too humble about himself.. but that is who he is.. and I have total respect for the man..

[Honeycombe8]

24. I remember one where he messed up big time. Even HE made fun of his performance.

It was pretty funny (it was funny because he was usu. great at debating, and of course, he won the election).