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Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:25 PM

 

MSNBC actually hostile to Biden. Matthews, Kornacki, and Reid definitely. NT

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Reply MSNBC actually hostile to Biden. Matthews, Kornacki, and Reid definitely. NT (Original post)
emmaverybo Jun 2019 OP
ancianita Jun 2019 #1
BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #2
ucrdem Jun 2019 #3
highplainsdem Jun 2019 #4
Raven123 Jun 2019 #7
highplainsdem Jun 2019 #9
Hoyt Jun 2019 #31
Cha Jun 2019 #13
emmaverybo Jun 2019 #8
PatSeg Jun 2019 #25
Raine Jun 2019 #5
emmaverybo Jun 2019 #11
BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #30
emmaverybo Jun 2019 #43
onetexan Jun 2019 #16
Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #27
ecstatic Jun 2019 #6
emmaverybo Jun 2019 #10
Bradical79 Jun 2019 #12
Cha Jun 2019 #14
Bradical79 Jun 2019 #18
emmaverybo Jun 2019 #21
Cha Jun 2019 #23
Bradical79 Jun 2019 #33
Cha Jun 2019 #35
emmaverybo Jun 2019 #36
Cha Jun 2019 #39
emmaverybo Jun 2019 #41
Cha Jun 2019 #42
Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #29
emmaverybo Jun 2019 #37
emulatorloo Jun 2019 #32
emmaverybo Jun 2019 #38
LovingA2andMI Jun 2019 #28
onetexan Jun 2019 #15
Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #22
brooklynite Jun 2019 #17
cbelle1039 Jun 2019 #19
Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #20
emmaverybo Jun 2019 #24
The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #26
emmaverybo Jun 2019 #40
Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #44
JI7 Jun 2019 #34
wyldwolf Jul 2019 #45

Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:27 PM

1. Yes. I don't think they're playing fair with his answers. He was one of the top four.

 

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Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:27 PM

2. CNN is burying him too FYI

 

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Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:27 PM

3. Noticed that.

 

The you-tube commentary after was brutal.
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Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:28 PM

4. MSNBC has NOT been on Biden's side for months now.

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:35 PM

7. Interesting. I have had the opposite opinion

 

For months, even as many candidates announced they were running, MSNBC seemed to view them as second tier as they awaited the Biden announcement. I guess it depends on your point of view.
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Response to Raven123 (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:40 PM

9. Second tier in polls, as they were. But MSNBC, especially Hayes and Reid, have been very

 

critical of Biden, and Maddow's made it plain again and again she doesn't want people to think about electability, which is code for "don't choose Biden."

I went through MSNBC's Twitter feed one night after Chris Hayes was tweeting some anti-Biden crap, and the Twitter feed for the network had nothing positive on Biden. Nothing.
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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #9)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:40 AM

31. Eugene Robinson wasn't ugly, but he made it clear that opposition to busing

 

back them wasnít out of sympathy for Black kids.

Donít know what it was like in NJ, but where I grew up, opposition to busing was usually something very unliberal.

With that said, Biden has done so much good. If heís the nominee, Iíd be behind him enthusiastically.
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Response to Raven123 (Reply #7)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:05 AM

13. Reid and Hayes have always been

 

against Biden.. Reid had a nasty disingenuous tweet about Biden Supporters.
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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:36 PM

8. Right. You are right. NT

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:29 AM

25. That is how they tend to treat the

 

front runner. They were brutal to Hillary.

That said, I don't think the media has ever been good to Biden for most of his career.
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Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:33 PM

5. Definitely, they went after him

 

I thought Biden did a great job in the debate but they keep telling me he didn't, BS!
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Response to Raine (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:02 AM

11. He hit all his marks. No, he did not turn in a star-making performance, That was Harris, not as much

 

on substance, even argument, as on tactics (stand out by taking on the top dog), delivery,
personality, and coming-from-behind factor.

I was surprised that she claimed to be the only candidate to mention a failed Latin America policy
as influencing the current humanitarian crisis, since Bidenís most cogent article on this very topic had just been published, and I find the Biden-blame offensive, but yes, her personalizing
bussing was effective.

She is, though, only yet another rival trying to undercut Bidenís civil right creds and his long-established ties with, and support from, black American voters, by no means assured, and in fairness, stronger with older than younger people.

She might cut into his lead along with Warren and Sanders. She might win the primaries. Or she
might be a new political darling. She is already a powerful voice as earned. However, she can not
win the general election and does not have near Bidenís presidential qualifications.

What she did tonight was a win of sorts, for litigating the past, for herself most of all.

Not a win for the country.
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Response to emmaverybo (Reply #11)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:40 AM

30. If we're talking about busing we're losing

 

I agree with you there. But thatís what happens when you have a front runner with a record going back to the early 70s.

Harris is getting a lot of attention for her takedown but I think itís political junk food at the end of the day. Nothing sustainable in and of itself.
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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #30)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 08:16 AM

43. Seems to have traction now. But right, his record goes back and it is going to be rehashed no

 

matter by whom or how. Better now than later. He is responsible for it and has to give an accounting.
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Response to Raine (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:11 AM

16. Joe's performance reinforced my vote for him. Kamala was good until she tried to go after Joe.

 

she didn't get any points there IMO
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Response to onetexan (Reply #16)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:34 AM

27. Harris will come to regret it... or not. As has been b4 it seems only to increase Biden's poll no's

 

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Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:35 PM

6. They were unfair to DeBlasio as well.

 

I wish they had voter panels on so we could hear them instead. And not those stupid trumpkin panels. A panel of true blue democrats.
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Response to ecstatic (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:41 PM

10. A great idea. I don't think these on-parade debates, which demonstrate such a narrow

 

range of skills, qualifications, and knowledge should even be performance events. At this stage,
they are very limited auditions, with so many on stage, near cattle-calls.
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Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:04 AM

12. A lot of people thought he was pretty awful -nt

 

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Response to Bradical79 (Reply #12)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:08 AM

14. Yeah, those who were already

 

against him.. ready to pounce.
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Response to Cha (Reply #14)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:19 AM

18. Hardly

 

He gave a terrible response to Harris on his bussing stance, and his NRA comment were huge mistakes. He came across as bit of a mess, and extremely out of touch.
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Response to Bradical79 (Reply #18)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:22 AM

21. A practiced and presumptive assessment, that "out of touch." He was right about local decisions

 

regarding bussing.
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Response to Bradical79 (Reply #18)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:23 AM

23. Sez you.

 

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Response to Cha (Reply #23)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:44 AM

33. Yup sez me. And an awful lot of other people out there.

 

The guy will be a disaster as the candidate. I know you all have your favorite, but outside of this bubble, he's going to have some serious problems.
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Response to Bradical79 (Reply #33)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:47 AM

35. Outside of this "bubble" Biden

 

has been doing well.

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Response to Cha (Reply #35)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:50 AM

36. YES. Cha saves the day. Once more. NT

 

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Response to emmaverybo (Reply #36)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:52 AM

39. Mahalo, emmaverybo! Please see here..

 

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287173342

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Response to Cha (Reply #39)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:56 AM

41. K+R Mahalo, back to you. What the good senator said is important no matter the end result.

 

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Response to emmaverybo (Reply #41)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:02 AM

42. Yes, being so very true.

 

Thank You!
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Response to Bradical79 (Reply #18)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:37 AM

29. his response was measured and respectful treating her fairly which is more than I can say for her

 

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Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #29)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:51 AM

37. And here is where and how he shines. NT

 

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Response to Bradical79 (Reply #18)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:40 AM

32. I don't think you know that bussing was controversial with AA community and liberals once

 

it was implemented. A lot of unintended consequences. Love Harris, but she oversimplified and misrepresented Bidenís positions and history. If she wants to get out of single digit polling she needs to promote herself and not do misleading attacks on other Democrats

I hope she does so, because sheís on my short list and I want her to succeed.
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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #32)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:52 AM

38. +1

 

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Response to Bradical79 (Reply #12)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:36 AM

28. A Lot of People....

 

Plenty of Them.
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Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:09 AM

15. and the moderators guthrie & chuck todd? ughh

 

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Response to onetexan (Reply #15)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:23 AM

22. Todd at least has cred as a moderator. Guthrie? No way.

 

She was "promoted" from political reporting to being a zany host on the morning show...talking coffee and fashion.
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Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:14 AM

17. Yawn...

 

Biden had an uneven night. Pointing that out isn't "bashing".
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Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:20 AM

19. Sad.

 

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Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:21 AM

20. Matthews likes Biden, actually. I don't know Kornacki & Reid well enuf...

 

except Joy Reid is pushing Harris.
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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #20)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:25 AM

24. Joy Reid Twitter-bashed Biden supporters. Matthews today referred to age-appropriate vs, age

 

inappropriate candidates just before the debates.
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Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:33 AM

26. I noticed that, was a bit surprised at Matthews.

 

Reid didn't surprise me, and Kornacki is just a windbag. O'Donnell also seemed quite negative. But a lot of that is probably just the fun of trying to puncture the front-runner.
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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #26)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:53 AM

40. You are right. Yes, that is their job. Stir the pot. NT

 

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #26)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 08:23 AM

44. Others have complained that Matthews is all-in for Biden.

 

Matthews & Biden go way back, so they're pretty friendly. But even friends recognize each other's flaws.

Do you want media that offers reality, or just a rah-rah chorus, to protect you from what may happen in an election?

If one person doesn't like a candidate, for whatever reason, you can bet your boopy there are many others who feel the same way.
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Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:47 AM

34. MSNBC has been pretty hostile to Biden.

 

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Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 08:29 AM

45. Same with Hillary in '16. Pretty much the same in '08

 

MSNBC, like FOX, is packed with hyper-partisans who cut their teeth in online forums and blogs (remember the term 'netroots?')

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