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Wed Jun 26, 2019, 11:28 PM

 

So why did candidates in tonight's debate not "lay a glove on Biden" as Brian Williams noted, as

had been expected? Not even in a veiled way.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Reply So why did candidates in tonight's debate not "lay a glove on Biden" as Brian Williams noted, as (Original post)
emmaverybo Jun 2019 OP
True Dough Jun 2019 #1
EveHammond13 Jun 2019 #2
marylandblue Jun 2019 #17
EveHammond13 Jun 2019 #20
customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #3
BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #4
Zambero Jun 2019 #5
emmaverybo Jun 2019 #6
blogslut Jun 2019 #7
emmaverybo Jun 2019 #8
BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #9
ecstatic Jun 2019 #10
AJT Jun 2019 #11
JI7 Jun 2019 #12
tirebiter Jun 2019 #13
Hekate Jun 2019 #14
Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #15
SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #16
loyalsister Jun 2019 #18
Recursion Jun 2019 #19
thesquanderer Jun 2019 #21

Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Wed Jun 26, 2019, 11:32 PM

1. He wasn't on the stage

 

and there will be plenty of time for that down the road.
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Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Wed Jun 26, 2019, 11:33 PM

2. I think you "lay a glove on Biden" by a strong performance that pushes up your numbers

 

you don't have to directly invoke him to do that
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Response to EveHammond13 (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 09:15 AM

17. This. All they needed to do was show that they are credible candidates

 

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And they all did that. They raised the bar for Biden to move from "electable" to "best."
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Response to marylandblue (Reply #17)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 12:17 PM

20. agree

 

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Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Wed Jun 26, 2019, 11:33 PM

3. Good question

 

Maybe they think they can advance to a debate with him, and do it then. They didn't try to take down Warren, either.

But, if the same thing happens tomorrow, then we probably won't see that kind of behavior until late in the debates.
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Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Wed Jun 26, 2019, 11:35 PM

4. Because Biden wasn't there?

 

Also, believe it or not, Biden isnít a very imposing front runner. Certainly not to the point where you would want to sacrifice your very limited airtime to take on a guy who wasnít on stage with you.
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Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Wed Jun 26, 2019, 11:43 PM

5. Debate time is too short if one intends to outline their own vision

 

Proclaiming not being Joe Biden isn't going to persuade very many primary voters. Trump is the common target, and even he was not mentioned as much as would be expected.
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Response to Zambero (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 26, 2019, 11:44 PM

6. Ah. Nt

 

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Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Wed Jun 26, 2019, 11:45 PM

7. The media wants mudslinging

 

Normally I'm cool with Brian but tonight, he and that whole panel + Tweety, are pissing me off. I think they're completely out of touch.
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Response to blogslut (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 26, 2019, 11:57 PM

8. Agree. NT

 

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Response to blogslut (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 26, 2019, 11:58 PM

9. They are indeed completely out of touch

 

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Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Wed Jun 26, 2019, 11:59 PM

10. Unless it's trump, why attack someone who's not there to defend him/herself?

 

I think that's the reason. Also, the questions weren't about Biden.
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Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 12:12 AM

11. There was no question where bringing in Biden would have been fitting.

 

As the herd gets culled thete will be more time spent on their competitors.
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Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 12:15 AM

12. mostly because he wasn't there

 

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Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 02:25 AM

13. Irrelavent

 

Trump was the target.
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Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 03:07 AM

14. Because Dems are not doing this for Brian's personal entertainment...

 

I think the aforementioned gentleman from MSNBC Brian Williams is sententious and too in love with the sound of his own voice at the best of times -- but that comment was truly disgusting.
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Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 04:45 AM

15. They focused on issues that matter.

 

So sorry it wasnít nt all about The Great Gaffesby.
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Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 08:53 AM

16. Because Biden is extremely well liked and respected by the party as a whole.

 

Attacks on him seem to have a negative impact on the attacker, not Biden. Warren seems to know how to do it when she wants. She critiques him on policy in a respectful yet forceful manner.
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Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 09:44 AM

18. Currently the campaigns are affirmative

 

I'm sure the commentators would have more fun with an ugly competition, but the candidates were more focused on making their opening arguments. There is no reason to bring him into the room.
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Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:30 AM

19. If you're polling at 1% you need to stomp the other also-rans

 

And if you're polling in the teens you don't want to burn your bridges.

Once the back end of the pack consolidates you'll see more of them taking potshots at Biden. Yang already picked a pretty effective fight with him last week.
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Response to emmaverybo (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2019, 12:45 PM

21. To criticize someone not even there is to acknowledge that you are an also-ran next to him.

 

At this point, it is more in a candidate's interest to come across as "we're all in this thing" than "I'm at the back of the pack."
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