Even with Google it's hard to find the offending Biden quote itself

[Rustynaerduwell]

but it's real easy to find what other Democrats are saying about how offensive it was. Biden was speaking about maintaining civility with people who he "didn't agree (with) on much of anything" but all I would know without reading the quote myself is that he was "waxing nostalgic about segregationists". I truly hope the Democrats don't do to each other what the Republicans are so good at doing to the Democrats.

[SouthernProgressive]

1. There is no offence outside of the way it is being used to attack him. NT

[rogue emissary]

2. For the record Biden agreed with Eastland on segregated busing.

[still_one]

3. Biden didn't support busing period. Did busing do what it was intended to do? Was it successful ?

[rogue emissary]

5. So he purposed all kids walk to school no matter the distance?

Honestly ask, as I've read about the white backlash to bussing and why he fought it. Never read he was against busing completely.

Can't say how successful it was since he fought implementation of the program for at least four years.

[Voltaire2]

8. Yes it was the most effective tool for

urban desegregation and it measurably improves educational equity.

But that was back before our party gave up on desegregation because of the political cost.

[still_one]

9. I believe if you examine what happened you will find it was a failure

[TwilightZone]

10. Many assert that it failed, particularly in Boston.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/the-boston-busing-crisis-was-never-intended-to-work/474264/

https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2016/10/06/496411024/why-busing-didnt-end-school-segregation

https://searchworks.stanford.edu/view/11691418

Etc.

[Rustynaerduwell]

7. Not quite.

Eastland- a foe of all desegregation busing- wanted segregation to remain as the status quo. Biden specifically argued against forced busing in cases where there was no racial discriminatory practice to be remedied, as unconstitutional. He wanted existing desegregation busing law to recognize this. The Supreme Court agreed with him.

[LAS14]

4. I can't swear that this was a verifiable "quote" in quotation marks, but what...

... I heard, in part, was that he could work with people that he disagreed with "profoundly." What do you have to do to make it clear that you abhor the other person's positions on lots of things?

And, for crying out loud, things WERE more civil and they DID get more things done back in the 70's. I thought we all agreed that we are in an age of unprecedented incivility and grid lock and that we would all like that to stop. Right?

So what I don't get is dumping on Biden. We shouldn't dump on people just for saying the truth.

BTW - I'm not a Biden for nominee person. I'm just for truth and civility.

[ucrdem]

6. I suspect it was in the can and ready to launch before he said it.

Too bad Joe stepped in it but I'm really disappointed in his colleagues for climbing on board such a shabby RW hit job.

[Celerity]

11. your Google skills need work, was the number one result from a simple search

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/19/us/politics/biden-segregationists.html

Mr. Biden, speaking at a fund-raiser at the Carlyle Hotel in New York City on Tuesday night, stressed the need to “be able to reach consensus under our system,” and cast his decades in the Senate as a time of relative comity. His remarks come as some in his party say that Mr. Biden, the former vice president, is too focused on overtures to the right as he seeks the Democratic presidential nomination.

[Mr. Biden lashed out at his rivals and declined to apologize on Wednesday.]

At the event, Mr. Biden noted that he served with the late Senators James O. Eastland of Mississippi and Herman Talmadge of Georgia, both Democrats who were staunch opponents of desegregation. Mr. Eastland was the powerful chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee when Mr. Biden entered the chamber in 1973.

“I was in a caucus with James O. Eastland,” said Mr. Biden, 76, slipping briefly into a Southern accent, according to a pool report from the fund-raiser. “He never called me ‘boy,’ he always called me ‘son.’”

He called Mr. Talmadge “one of the meanest guys I ever knew, you go down the list of all these guys.”

“Well guess what?” Mr. Biden continued. “At least there was some civility. We got things done. We didn’t agree on much of anything. We got things done. We got it finished. But today you look at the other side and you’re the enemy. Not the opposition, the enemy. We don’t talk to each other anymore.”

On Wednesday, Senator Cory Booker of New Jersey, one of two black candidates running for president, said Mr. Biden was “wrong” to use segregationists as examples for bringing the country together.

“You don’t joke about calling black men ‘boys,’” Mr. Booker said in a statement. “I’m disappointed that he hasn’t issued an immediate apology for the pain his words are dredging up for many Americans. He should.”

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“Folks, I believe one of the things I’m pretty good at is bringing people together,” Mr. Biden said. “Every time we had a trouble in the administration, who got sent to the Hill to settle it? Me. No, not a joke. Because I demonstrate respect for them.”

snip

Mr. Biden made the comments about Mr. Eastland and Mr. Talmadge on the eve of Juneteenth, the day that commemorates the end of slavery. His remarks came as he spoke about the need for unity, including a call for bipartisanship that has drawn derision from some liberals who don’t see room for compromise in today’s polarized Washington.

“I know the new New Left tells me that I’m — this is old-fashioned,” he said. “Well guess what? If we can’t reach a consensus in our system, what happens? It encourages and demands the abuse of power by a president.”

snip

This is what Booker said





then (and this is what I, as a PoC, had the most issue with) Biden upped the game, and turned the situation into the very problematic optics of a white man demanding a black man (Booker) apologise to HIM (Biden) for what the black man found to be racially insensitive remarks:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/06/20/joe-biden-refuses-apologise-amid-democrat-anger-remarks-segregationist/


Speaking to reporters on Wednesday evening, Mr Biden was asked about Mr Booker's demand that he apologise. "Apologise for what? Cory should apologise. He knows better. Not a racist bone in my body. I’ve been involved in civil rights my whole career," Mr Biden said.

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