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Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:54 AM

 

African American South Carolinians weigh in on Biden's comments (Report by CNN's Martin Savidge)

Martin Savidge: "Everybody we talked to said that Joe Biden's words did not change their opinion of him..."



https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/06/21/biden-south-carolina-black-voters-martin-savidge-pkg-newday-vpx.cnn
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Skya Rhen Jun 2019 OP
Kahuna7 Jun 2019 #1
stonecutter357 Jun 2019 #2
NYMinute Jun 2019 #3
pangaia Jun 2019 #4
Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2019 #6
pangaia Jun 2019 #9
Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #15
pangaia Jun 2019 #23
LanternWaste Jun 2019 #12
True Blue American Jun 2019 #18
Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2019 #20
True Blue American Jun 2019 #21
Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #27
Cha Jun 2019 #26
Politicub Jun 2019 #5
Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #7
peggysue2 Jun 2019 #19
True Blue American Jun 2019 #22
PatrickforO Jun 2019 #8
mopinko Jun 2019 #13
Scurrilous Jun 2019 #10
oasis Jun 2019 #11
Kind of Blue Jun 2019 #14
Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #16
Kind of Blue Jun 2019 #24
ananda Jun 2019 #17
customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #25
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Cha Jun 2019 #28
Gothmog Feb 2020 #29

Response to Skya Rhen (Original post)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:56 AM

1. It appears "everybody" was being realistic. nt

 

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Response to Skya Rhen (Original post)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:58 AM

2. K&R

 

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Response to Skya Rhen (Original post)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:03 AM

3. I am with everybody

 

Most people understood the gist of what Biden was saying and that he was neither racist nor supportive of the vile senators.

The spin by David Sirota was wasted and took 2 days of potentially positive news coverage from all the candidates.
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Response to Skya Rhen (Original post)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:09 AM

4. I'm not expressing an opinion about anything "joe," but....

 

Those 'interview' setups are hysterical...




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Response to pangaia (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:12 AM

6. Yep. Really obvious

 

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #6)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:14 AM

9. This is how it is so often done.. everywhere and every situation...

 

and what dumb americans have come to see as reporting, or news, or..
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Response to pangaia (Reply #9)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:57 AM

15. I see - the opinions from Twitter posters (who are not "dumb americans") are valued more

 

than the opinions of the black "affected" people that these same Twitter posters claim that they are so concerned about.

The masks are falling off these Twitter posters fast...
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Response to Skya Rhen (Reply #15)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 01:00 PM

23. Jeeze..

 



Looks like you completely missed the point of my comment.

What does BLACK have to do with ANYTHING in what I said other than something you read into it.

Perhaps a subjective sensibility... ?
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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #6)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:36 AM

12. Almost as obvious as...

 

Prominent Black Academic: "Joe Biden Shouldn't Be President"

(but I get why the one is tolerated as a good point, while the other called out as a ploy...)
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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #6)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 12:15 PM

18. Did you see Bernie

 

Blow up at Stephany Rhule yesterday because she kept correcting his lie on Biden?
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Response to True Blue American (Reply #18)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 12:23 PM

20. Yep. Loved it.

 

She asked him a question then tried to interrupt him with her view. He shut her down and said you asked for my view and got it. That’s how you handle talking heads who ask a question and then try to cut you off.

You have a strange definition of “blow up”
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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #20)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 12:26 PM

21. She corrected his lie about Biden

 

You have a strange definition of what happened.
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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #20)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 09:16 PM

27. Perhaps Sanders should not have deliberately mislead viewers as to what Biden said.

 

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Response to pangaia (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 08:24 PM

26. "..interview setups.."? What's so damn funny?

 

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Response to Skya Rhen (Original post)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:10 AM

5. That's great for Biden. He is maintaining his strong African American support.

 

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Response to Skya Rhen (Original post)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:13 AM

7. What people need to understand is that, generally speaking, AA are not fickled. We tend to be very

 

pragmatic and are not easily swayed by obvious, politically-motivated hit jobs (even from our own Cory Booker).

We are focused on doing away with the racist occupying the White House and most of us are rooting for Joe to do just that...
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Response to Skya Rhen (Reply #7)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 12:21 PM

19. Well said, Skya

 

I don't think it's a coincidence that this latest attack on Joe Biden attempts to break his support within the AA community. Because without that support there is no path to the White House. Our other candidates know this and the Trump reelection campaign knows this. Yet Joe's poll numbers have remained strong, the strongest in the pack with minority voters, particularly African Americans.

The main objective is to rid ourselves of the Squatter-in-Chief who--by his own words and deeds--is racist. Trump has coddled White Supremacists, made excuses for Neo-Nazis and caged immigrant families including children as if they were animals. And if we're talking about past deeds, let's not forget Trump's involvement in public housing and the Central Park Five.

We need to have this SOB removed. I agree, btw. Joe can do just that. Which is why there is a huge target on his back.



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Response to Skya Rhen (Reply #7)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 12:27 PM

22. Booker and Kamala are down in the polls, Bernie is losing to Elizabeth.

 

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Response to Skya Rhen (Original post)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:13 AM

8. The problem here, of course is it plays into the media's corporate hands.

 

Nothing is more attractive to a talking head, even one ostensibly 'on our side,' than a sharp conflict between two candidates. Because then, hey, it's a horserace and the corporate owners of the stations can make the news about THAT rather than the issues.

They don't want to talk about the issues, or educate people about the issues because Democrats would take over, we'd have health care, there would be systematic year-over-year cuts in defense, we'd have a decent immigration policy and a fair tax code. Our kids wouldn't be prey to a predatory capitalistic student loan system.

But...we have to talk about the issues, not the intra-candidate conflict.
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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #8)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:37 AM

13. they have been chomping at the bit.

 

goading them, in every interview, to "distinguish" or "contrast" themselves from the other candidates.
our candidates have mostly done a good job of keeping their pledge to stay positive.
msm really wants that fratricide. we really need to resist it.

that doesnt mean not discussing those frictions, and how they might hurt/help.
i think we did a pretty good job here, really. there were long threads and difference of opinion, but i think it has been civil and well thought out.

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Response to Skya Rhen (Original post)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:29 AM

10. K&R

 

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Response to Skya Rhen (Original post)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:34 AM

11. Good to know, although the "controversy" was blown out of proportion

 

from day one. This nothingburger should be over with by Monday's early light.
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Response to Skya Rhen (Original post)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:54 AM

14. For completion... "a number did say that they didn't think it was the best analogy and

 

he should probably steer away from using it again in the future. There were some who suggested that he apologize and they say he do it right away, in order to get this matter quickly behind him."
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Response to Kind of Blue (Reply #14)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 12:06 PM

16. Yes, but none of their opinions toward Joe have been changed. Apparently they are providing

 

suggestions as to how those "concerned" Twitter posters can be calmed down so that real issues can be tackled, without the distracting tantrums.
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Response to Skya Rhen (Reply #16)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 01:51 PM

24. Yes, that he is now the most electable. But so are the others

 

in the top 5 hoping to beat 45 from the Quinnipiac poll seen earlier this month. I'm not sure right now so that may have changed. https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2627

I don't argue Biden's strong AA support but I don't believe it is permanent, riding I think on Pres. Obama's coattails. After all, he has tried for the presidency at least 3 times and lost every one in low numbers. This, imo, is more than distracting tantrums and shouldn't be swept under the rug as such. As BlackPAC Executive Director Adrianne Shropshire said in his latest poll results, "Name identification, which is driving support for candidates at this point, will be insufficient for decisively winning the Black electorate –and subsequently, securing the nomination. Candidates must use this critical window to define their campaigns around these concerns- an unyielding commitment to halting the rise of bigotry and curbing widening racial disparities in our economic, healthcare, and education systems." https://blackpac.com/new-poll-black-voters-are-highly-motivated-to-push-our-country-back-on-track/

As more of Biden's record in our community comes out that the other candidates may/will use in their bid for the nomination I think that it will certainly reduce favorability and turnout especially among not only older AAs but the young, as well, as was the case with HRC and this is fair to think about.

As for South Carolina, Biden's nice 45% has fallen to 37% as Warren jumped from just 8% to 18% from May 31st to June 14th, as per the latest 538 polling of June 16th and we're still early in the game. If Biden can pull it off and win, I'm all for it. But right now, I'm not about a candidate who can discourage with head-scratching utterances and depress turnout. I want the candidate, I think are all excellent except Biden, who will energize and turnout the vote in numbers never seen before. But now and the coming year, as far as I'm concerned, our vote is definitely Biden's to lose.





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Response to Skya Rhen (Original post)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 12:14 PM

17. I am not surprised. Biden is fundamentally decent ..

 

.. unlike any Reep I could name.
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Response to Skya Rhen (Original post)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 02:14 PM

25. Joe Biden

 

is not a racist. That said, the whole "boy...son" thing was irrelevant to his point, and came across very clumsily. We'll see in the debate if Joe is a gaffe machine or not.
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Response to Skya Rhen (Original post)

Sat Jun 22, 2019, 03:51 PM

28. K

 

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Response to Skya Rhen (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 10:47 AM

29. African Americans trust and support Joe Biden -- and Bernie Sanders' dirty tactics won't change that

 




For more than 30 years I have worked around the clock organizing and activating voters in South Carolina with my renowned “Reckoning Crew.”

We have hit the ground for local races, presidential races and everything in between — knocking on doors in rural communities and making phone calls into urban neighborhoods. We have had big wins and suffered some tough losses, but we are lucky to speak with so many voters in our communities.

It is safe to say that I know what South Carolina voters are looking for in 2020.....

Sanders’ divisive and baseless attacks won’t get him anywhere in the Palmetto State. And Sanders is proving to us —once again — that he just does not know or understand South Carolina voters.
By contrast former Vice President Joe Biden knows us like the back of his hand. And we know him.

Joe has more relationships in our communities than anyone else in this race.
He has more history with our communities than anyone else in this race.
And Joe is more comfortable in our communities than anyone else in this race.

Read more here: https://www.thestate.com/opinion/article239256523.html#storylink=cpy
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