Democratic Primaries

Cha

(297,123 posts) Thu Jun 20, 2019, 09:34 PM Jun 2019

lol@Ryan Grim.. "That Sanders is such a threat to the Establishment that they're warming to Warren..

So it's the tired, stale word "Establishment" that's "warming to Elizabeth"..

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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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lol@Ryan Grim.. "That Sanders is such a threat to the Establishment that they're warming to Warren.. (Original Post) Cha Jun 2019 OP

Maybe if we get my wish and actually recruit the reincarnation of Marx Tiggeroshii Jun 2019 #1

Nah.. Cha Jun 2019 #3

Yes Tiggeroshii Jun 2019 #9

No thank you! Cha Jun 2019 #13

Yes Tiggeroshii Jun 2019 #14

No. Cha Jun 2019 #32

No. Tiggeroshii Jun 2019 #34

Bzzt. Thanks for playing. shenmue Jun 2019 #6

... Tiggeroshii Jun 2019 #8

Mao. crazytown Jun 2019 #11

... Tiggeroshii Jun 2019 #12

Aloha, shenmue! Cha Jun 2019 #16

Would somebody please define "The Establishment," and then The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #2

That's their buzzword and they're sticking Cha Jun 2019 #5

Establishment means anti-progressive. betsuni Jun 2019 #10

"Establishment" is anyone who Cha Jun 2019 #15

Yes, they don't support him because they are anti-progressive corporatists. betsuni Jun 2019 #17

Fear the "plotting" Canapes! Cha Jun 2019 #18

He's always talking about everybody out to get him, that old cat hasn't been near a bag in years. betsuni Jun 2019 #20

Right.. Cats don't stay Cha Jun 2019 #23

The cats will eat the canapes. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #35

bwahahahahaha!!!! George II Jun 2019 #19

Yeah, Planned Parenthood is real corporatist tishaLA Jun 2019 #21

Ah, hah hah. 😆 emmaverybo Jun 2019 #27

"The establishment" prolly refers to "New Democrats" Go Vols Jun 2019 #25

I'm not establishment, you're establishment! mcar Jun 2019 #33

REAL reason: Warren's PLANS for addressing economic issues are well-explained blm Jun 2019 #4

I agree.. they don't want to Cha Jun 2019 #7

Even though their plans are similar, Warren inspires hope, while Sanders creates anger sop Jun 2019 #26

Quite correct. Maru Kitteh Jun 2019 #30

+1000! BlueMTexpat Jun 2019 #28

Had to google "the cat is out of the bag". Must be a generational thing. oasis Jun 2019 #22

I love that idiom, didn't occur to me that everyone doesn't know it. betsuni Jun 2019 #24

"Sweet Smell of Success" Celerity Jun 2019 #31

... BlueMTexpat Jun 2019 #29

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)

1. Maybe if we get my wish and actually recruit the reincarnation of Marx

Reply to Cha (Original post)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 09:37 PM

Jun 2019

...DLC and moderates will warm to Sanders too!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Cha

(297,123 posts)

3. Nah..

Reply to Tiggeroshii (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 09:41 PM

Jun 2019

Link to tweet

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)

9. Yes

Reply to Cha (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 09:53 PM

Jun 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Cha

(297,123 posts)

13. No thank you!

Reply to Tiggeroshii (Reply #9)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 10:04 PM

Jun 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)

14. Yes

Reply to Cha (Reply #13)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 10:05 PM

Jun 2019

👍

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Cha

(297,123 posts)

32. No.

Reply to Tiggeroshii (Reply #14)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:38 PM

Jun 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)

34. No.

Reply to Cha (Reply #32)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:45 PM

Jun 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

shenmue

(38,506 posts)

6. Bzzt. Thanks for playing.

Reply to Tiggeroshii (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 09:48 PM

Jun 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)

8. ...

Reply to shenmue (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 09:53 PM

Jun 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

crazytown

(7,277 posts)

11. Mao.

Reply to Tiggeroshii (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 10:00 PM

Jun 2019

I’d prefer an animatronic Mao campaigning on a Great Leap Forward.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)

12. ...

Reply to crazytown (Reply #11)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 10:01 PM

Jun 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Cha

(297,123 posts)

16. Aloha, shenmue!

Reply to shenmue (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 10:07 PM

Jun 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,661 posts)

2. Would somebody please define "The Establishment," and then

Reply to Cha (Original post)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 09:38 PM

Jun 2019

explain why someone who has been a career politician since the '70s isn't a member of it?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,123 posts)

5. That's their buzzword and they're sticking

Reply to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 09:47 PM

Jun 2019

to it.. even though it's way past its due date.

I don't know how a career politician thinks he's not.

John Lewis, our national treasure. is.. so I rather like our Establishment on the whole.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

betsuni

(25,456 posts)

10. Establishment means anti-progressive.

Reply to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 09:58 PM

Jun 2019

Progressive means anti-Establishment. Sanders isn't Establishment because he is a true progressive.

This is the best I can come up with.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,123 posts)

15. "Establishment" is anyone who

Reply to betsuni (Reply #10)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 10:05 PM

Jun 2019

doesn't vote for BS.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

betsuni

(25,456 posts)

17. Yes, they don't support him because they are anti-progressive corporatists.

Reply to Cha (Reply #15)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 10:16 PM

Jun 2019

They are TERRIFIED of Bernie's progressive policies and will STOP AT NOTHING behind closed doors to defeat him with CANAPES.

THE CAT IS OUT OF THE BAG.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,123 posts)

18. Fear the "plotting" Canapes!

Reply to betsuni (Reply #17)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 10:30 PM

Jun 2019

Link to tweet

And, just who is "nervous"?

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And, yes.. let's talk about that "..cat out of the bag..".. what's up with that?! What does that even mean?! lol

THE CAT IS OUT OF THE BAG.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

betsuni

(25,456 posts)

20. He's always talking about everybody out to get him, that old cat hasn't been near a bag in years.

Reply to Cha (Reply #18)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 11:03 PM

Jun 2019

I guess there's a CT out there about a signed pact, saw this nutty comment: "But for candidates to sign an anti-Bernie pact as Mayor Pete, Biden and others have done." Have to create "evidence" for the RIGGED! hysteria to come.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,123 posts)

23. Right.. Cats don't stay

Reply to betsuni (Reply #20)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 01:41 AM

Jun 2019

in bags.. cats are safe and fed in the care of the owners.. roaming freely around the house, or outside in the big ol world.

Only in CTs' minds is anyone going to sign a stupid made-up pledge like that. They can save their "hysteria".

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,661 posts)

35. The cats will eat the canapes.

Reply to Cha (Reply #23)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:44 PM

Jun 2019

Especially the ones with caviar or smoked salmon.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

George II

(67,782 posts)

19. bwahahahahaha!!!!

Reply to betsuni (Reply #17)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 10:38 PM

Jun 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)

21. Yeah, Planned Parenthood is real corporatist

Reply to betsuni (Reply #17)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 11:20 PM

Jun 2019

And anti-progressive.

They were derided as establishment by some short sighted people looking for a boogeyman just 3 years ago during the Democratic primaries

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)

27. Ah, hah hah. 😆

Reply to Cha (Reply #15)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 04:45 AM

Jun 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Go Vols

(5,902 posts)

25. "The establishment" prolly refers to "New Democrats"

Reply to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #2)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 02:39 AM

Jun 2019

The landslide 1984 Presidential election defeat spurred centrist Democrats to action, and the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) was formed. The DLC, an unofficial party organization, played a critical role in moving the Democratic Party's policies to the center of the American political spectrum. Prominent Democratic politicians such as: Senators Al Gore and Joe Biden (both future Vice Presidents) participated in DLC affairs prior to their candidacy for the 1988 Democratic Party nomination.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Democrats

Obama says he'd be seen as moderate Republican in 1980s
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/272957-obama-says-his-economic-policies-so-mainstream-hed-be-seen-as-moderate-republican-in-1980s

I didn't care for moderate Republicans in the '80s.I don't think emulating them today puts us back to left of center.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

mcar

(42,298 posts)

33. I'm not establishment, you're establishment!

Reply to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #2)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:44 PM

Jun 2019

And no backsies. So there!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

blm

(113,040 posts)

4. REAL reason: Warren's PLANS for addressing economic issues are well-explained

Reply to Cha (Original post)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 09:44 PM

Jun 2019

by her. She provides detailed plans that even many centrist Dems can plainly see as good, sound policy. She IS an educator. She is EDUCATING all sides in our party from one side of the spectrum to the other. She just needed the platform to be heard.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,123 posts)

7. I agree.. they don't want to

Reply to blm (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 09:50 PM

Jun 2019

talk about the real reasons.

It's not just so called "centrists", either. How about all the former BS supporters who have switched to Elizabeth?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

sop

(10,146 posts)

26. Even though their plans are similar, Warren inspires hope, while Sanders creates anger

Reply to blm (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 03:54 AM

Jun 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Maru Kitteh

(28,333 posts)

30. Quite correct.

Reply to sop (Reply #26)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 05:03 AM

Jun 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

BlueMTexpat

(15,366 posts)

28. +1000!

Reply to blm (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 04:53 AM

Jun 2019

She not only provides plans; she has already introduced legislation in the Senate for health care. Of course, it will die there, under McConnell.

But to credit her rise to BS, is indeed BS.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

oasis

(49,370 posts)

22. Had to google "the cat is out of the bag". Must be a generational thing.

Reply to Cha (Original post)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 12:24 AM

Jun 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

betsuni

(25,456 posts)

24. I love that idiom, didn't occur to me that everyone doesn't know it.

Reply to oasis (Reply #22)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 01:58 AM

Jun 2019

I'm old so I do. One of my favorite lines from film noir movie "Sweet Smell of Success" is when the main character promises to keep a secret: "The cat's in the bag and the bag's in the river."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden