"Let's make America America again."

[mtnsnake]

I think that was the highlight of Biden's speech. Great line that could become his campaign slogan.

I thought his speech was excellent but not quite as good as his speech in Philadelphia when he first announced he was running. Joe looked more serious and concerned today than I've ever seen him before, probably just a reflection of how concerned he is for future of the country. I hope he was feeling okay.

[msongs]

1. IMO weak as water. references trump and lots of ambiguity about what is america to him

vs people who are brutally oppressed by american society on the whole, ie POC, lgbt etc

[mtnsnake]

2. Yeah, maybe it wouldn't be a great slogan for him, but it was definitely a good line today

and it's a line that is sure to get under Trump's skin. Anyway, you're right about it being a reference to Trump.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

3. America has never truly been America, and I feel like the idea of "going back" to something

really ignores the fact that there was still a lot of work to be done even in years we remember as "better." Biden would do well to consider language that implies "getting back on track toward something" rather than "reverting" or "going back" to something.

[mtnsnake]

4. Good point, although I don't think that that one line will define his campaign

I think Biden just wanted show that there is a great contrast between what Trump believes and what he believes.

[loyalsister]

5. I dislike that tradition of using "America" as if

The US is the only American nation.
There are millions of Americans who are from Central America and South America.
I think it started with Teddy Roosevelt when he gave a xenophobic, racist speech proclaiming US citizens are the only real Americans.
It's an ugly point of view couched in the white supremacy that defined and continues to prevail in the US.

[JI7]

6. people from those other America nations also refer to the US as America

they prefer to be called by their country name.

[loyalsister]

8. That may be for some

I have talked with people who would like the language reflecting their continental origin to be part of the lexicon. It's a tradition I wish politicians would abandon because it has the narcissistic, nationalistic ring of American exceptionalism.

[Gothmog]

7. I like this slogan

[Hortensis]

9. Me too. "If you had to choose one moment in history in which to be born,

and you didn't know in advance whether you were going to be male or female, which country you were going to be from, what your status was, you'd choose right now. ... The world has never been healthier, or wealthier, or better educated, or in many ways more tolerant, or less violent, than it is today." ~ Barack Obama

SO true. Of course, we'd want the relatively healthy government of pre-reaganism America tweaked for today. To make that happen is OUR job, of course.