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Thu Jun 6, 2019, 02:55 PM

 

I want to live in Elizabeth Warren's America

I absolutely love this op-ed from the New York Times!

I Want to Live in Elizabeth Warrenís America

By Farhad Manjoo

tís early, but this much is true: Elizabeth Warren is running the most impressive presidential campaign in ages, certainly the most impressive campaign within my lifetime.

I donít mean that the Massachusetts senator is a better speaker than anyone who has ever run, nor a more strident revolutionary, nor as charismatic a shaper of her public image. Itís not even that she has better ideas than her opponents, though on a range of issues she certainly does.

Iím impressed instead by something more simple and elemental: Warren actually has ideas. She has grand, detailed and daring ideas, and through these ideas she is single-handedly elevating the already endless slog of the 2020 presidential campaign into something weightier and more interesting than what it might otherwise have been: a frivolous contest about who hates Donald Trump most.

Warrenís approach is ambitious and unconventional. She is betting on depth in a shallow, tweet-driven world. By offering so much honest detail so early, she risks turning off key constituencies, alienating donors and muddying the gauzy visionary branding that is the fuel for so much early horse-race coverage. Itís worth noting that it took Warren months of campaigning and reams of policy proposals to earn her a spot on the cover of Time Magazine. Meanwhile, because they match the cultureís Aaron Sorkinian picture of what a smart progressive looks like, Beto and Buttigieg ó whose policy depth can be measured in tossed-off paragraphs ó are awarded fawning coverage just for showing up male.

Continue reading at The New York Times . . .
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Bernie Sanders

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Reply I want to live in Elizabeth Warren's America (Original post)
markpkessinger Jun 2019 OP
BlueMTexpat Jun 2019 #1
backtoblue Jun 2019 #2
Progressive2020 Jun 2019 #3
lunatica Jun 2019 #18
Volaris Jun 2019 #19
zentrum Jun 2019 #4
dchill Jun 2019 #5
shanny Jun 2019 #6
empedocles Jun 2019 #7
SunSeeker Jun 2019 #8
Kurt V. Jun 2019 #9
Politicub Jun 2019 #10
RustyWheels Jun 2019 #11
Ferrets are Cool Jun 2019 #12
Bradshaw3 Jun 2019 #13
rurallib Jun 2019 #14
AllaN01Bear Jun 2019 #15
Hoyt Jun 2019 #16
TexasBushwhacker Jun 2019 #17
appalachiablue Jun 2019 #20
Blue_true Jun 2019 #21
appalachiablue Jun 2019 #22
Blue_true Jun 2019 #25
appalachiablue Jun 2019 #30
Blue_true Jun 2019 #31
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tblue37 Jun 2019 #26
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Capt. America Jun 2019 #29

Response to markpkessinger (Original post)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 03:05 PM

1. So do I! eom

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Elizabeth Warren

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Response to markpkessinger (Original post)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 03:18 PM

2. Count me in!

 



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Elizabeth Warren

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Response to markpkessinger (Original post)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 03:26 PM

3. I Want To Live In Elizabeth Warren's America Too

 

I am still Undecided, but Warren would probably be my choice if I had to vote today. She is smart, thorough, studied, and articulate. I know that some do not like that she comes off as a Teacher, a Professor who lectures, but I view this as a positive. We are ready for a smart candidate. Anyway, Elizabeth Warren is great.
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Response to Progressive2020 (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 04:43 PM

18. She strikes me as a teacher who teaches to her student's strengths

 

She is understandable and doesnít talk down to people. On the contrary, she puts them on her level, and she puts herself on theirs. Itís a win win.

Not an easy feat!

If she were talking to intellectuals she would sound like them. That is brilliant.
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Response to Progressive2020 (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 05:58 PM

19. Ya I agree and I for one appreciate that she's professorial-levels SMARTER than I am.

 

On edit- my concerns are twofold:
Foreign policy exp seems somewhat lacking...

Does she have the moxy to throw down with a Democratic Congressional Majority much more concerned with re-election prospects, than voting the right way on big ideas that might not be fully understood by the Locals?,...Obama DID, and made it known to congress that by hell or high water , health care WAS GONNA GET DONE, and if you can't manage to get yourself re elected on that AS A DEMOCRAT, well...then on your own head be it.

Because we're talking about a democratic presidency, let's not let it be lost on us that one of the necessary (if unfortunate) skills required, IS the ability to herd fucking Cats.

Obama had it, and I think Biden does as well (and to be fair, Biden might be the reason Barrack was as good at it as he was). It's about expierence, yes, but also about attitude and the arrogance to believe that 'well, of COURSE the cats will go where I want (because theyre smart enough to know what will happen to them if they damnwell DONT.).
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Response to markpkessinger (Original post)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 03:40 PM

4. Me too!

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Elizabeth Warren

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Response to markpkessinger (Original post)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 03:47 PM

5. Me, too.

 

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Response to markpkessinger (Original post)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 03:51 PM

6. I do too.

 

I'm working to make that happen.
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Response to markpkessinger (Original post)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 03:52 PM

7. I like Warren. The most intellectual in the group. However, we need long coattails

 

across the centrist voting blocs. Maximum, maximum Dems in House and Senate, to have best chance to get the most done.
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Response to markpkessinger (Original post)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 03:54 PM

8. K & R

 

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Response to markpkessinger (Original post)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 03:55 PM

9. K&R

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Elizabeth Warren

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Response to markpkessinger (Original post)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 04:05 PM

10. Yes, please!

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Pete Buttigieg

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Response to markpkessinger (Original post)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 04:07 PM

11. K & R

 

Agreed... 100%

Undecided, but Warren is in my top 3-4, I was hoping she would have run in 2016 as well.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Amy Klobuchar

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Response to markpkessinger (Original post)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 04:10 PM

12. Add me to that list.

 

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Response to markpkessinger (Original post)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 04:14 PM

13. K&R

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Elizabeth Warren

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Response to markpkessinger (Original post)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 04:17 PM

14. Finally decided to follow my heart and fully support Warren

 

had been split between Warren and Harris, but Warren has really impressed me as someone who thinks things through thoroughly and chooses a path that makes good sense.

She will make a great president.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Response to markpkessinger (Original post)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 04:24 PM

15. me 3

 

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Response to markpkessinger (Original post)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 04:29 PM

16. Agree with much of that, but adamantly opposed to her "Economic Patriotism"

 

junk that is the same Nationalist, America First ideology that helped give us trump. You know when Tucker Carlson says he likes Warrenís ďEconomic Patriotism,Ē itís time to reconsider.
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Response to Hoyt (Reply #16)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 04:42 PM

17. I do question the continued emphasis on manufacturing jobs

 

when half of them will be lost to automation in the next 20 years, whether those jobs are here or overseas. It's just a matter of time.
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Response to markpkessinger (Original post)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 09:07 PM

20. Agree, she's the best and has tremendous ideas for this country.

 

Re manufacturing, Warren's aware of AI and must be factoring in its impact on the jobs front and the economy.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Response to appalachiablue (Reply #20)

Thu Jun 6, 2019, 09:48 PM

21. I believe that only 10-15% of people will have jobs once robots and AI reach a high level of

 

advancement.

Some people say that there will be jobs designing robots and writing intelligent code. Those people have not seen the "smart" machine effort that is taking place as I write. The "smart machine" concept has machines design, build, repair and operate other machines, sort of like Terminator but not remotely as scary. There will be for a while 10-15% of well trained workers that will still have jobs, but that will eventually and permanently drop to 3-4%, if not a lot less than that. That small group will be "machine masters", people capable of thoughts and actions that even the smartest machines can't duplicate.
What politicians need to start doing in envisioning jobless societies and how they work in an equitable fashion.
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Response to Blue_true (Reply #21)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 08:51 AM

22. What a grim forecast for humans indeed. I've seen articles and comments

 

with similar projections in the last several years and can only hope the march to oblivion is decades or centuries away.
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Response to appalachiablue (Reply #22)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 07:38 PM

25. Contrary. The pace is vastly accelerating.

 

The problem that I see is that no political body is planning for what is to come. It won't take a century. Look at cellphones and cars for example. 15 years ago cellphones were pretty primitive, today they are supplanting some of the decisionmaking we used to have to do on a daily basis. Fifteen years ago, driverless cars were a science lab fantasy, today we have them and within ten years, they will supplant our daily driving decision-making. Just five years ago Banks and grocery stores had two times the employees they have today.
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Response to Blue_true (Reply #25)

Sat Jun 8, 2019, 11:31 AM

30. Years ago when there were news articles about recent breakthroughs

 

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in AI (supercomputer 'Watson' on Jeopardy in 2011 and more) and I wondered why liberal media, advocates and online forums weren't discussing the impact on jobs and society all that much. After a couple years posting articles and receiving mediocre response I dropped the idea. I don't know what it will take for governments to seriously address this enormous disruption.

So far candidate Andrew Yang is the most visible person focused on the issue, especially the imminent decline of employment for humans, UBI and what can be done about the future. The entire subject is overwhelming and can be detrimental to life and health if you let it.
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Response to appalachiablue (Reply #30)

Sat Jun 8, 2019, 02:36 PM

31. Yep. You fully understand the coming risks.

 

And yes, Yang is the only candidate talking about it. This issue may not be as destructive to life on earth as climate change if we don't get the right solutions, but it is very, very close in potential severity.
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Response to markpkessinger (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 10:44 AM

23. K & R ... + 1,000,000

 

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Response to markpkessinger (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 03:16 PM

24. Great OP!

 

Sen. Warren has given me hope for our future.
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Response to markpkessinger (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 07:39 PM

26. "I Want to Live in Elizabeth Warren's America " would be a great campaign slogan! nt

 

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Response to markpkessinger (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 10:48 PM

28. Me too.

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Response to markpkessinger (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2019, 12:21 AM

29. Count me in. She's the bomb. She will need a D Senate as well to get her stuff passed.

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Pete Buttigieg

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