Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumThe Politico story on BS's millions is recommended on Jewish Journal's "Best of the Web"
They excerpt and then link directly to Politico.
https://jewishjournal.com/newsroom/money/how-does-a-socialist-get-so-rich/
****************************************************************
From Wiki:
snip==============================
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)but they do call it out when they see it.
https://jewishjournal.com/?s=antisemitic
https://jewishjournal.com/?s=Antisemitism
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Me.
(35,454 posts)considering that some regard it as anti-semitic
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)Let's have a beer instead.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)given her expertise on the topic.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Vidal
(642 posts)Thank you for sharing this information.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)No donuts for you.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FreeBe
(104 posts)it cannot be discussed because $ + Jewish = antisemitic is wrong.
The antisemitic of the $ + Jewish, is they are taking over the world with their money, and there is none of that at all, what so ever in the intent or content of the article.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Mosby
(16,299 posts)It sort of makes me like BS more.
You know a net worth of 2M at 77 is really not that unusual, anyone who is saving in a 401K knows that they will need more than a million when they retire. That doesn't make them rich.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FreeBe
(104 posts)One of the issues I really had with Sanders in 2015 was the fact he had so little. His history with personal finance was never stellar or even good. Then at his age, with a two working adult family, he only had like 300K. That made no sense to me unless he just handled his money really poorly. That is not inspiring to me when hiring a President.
So, point taken. But, I think the discussion is how he made that money, and just all at once, in 2016 off a campaign attacking the very millionaire and billionaires he became. Setting himself separate of Democrats and using it as a weapon to create the image of " both parties the same", "corporate". Really hurting us Democrats in 2016. Sanders really hurt us in 2016.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)https://www.creditdonkey.com/average-net-worth-by-age.html
https://wallethacks.com/average-net-worth-by-age-americans/
Not everyone is privileged enough to have $1,000,000 in a 401K. As a matter of fact, 35% of all American workers don't even have access to a 401K.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/12/how-many-americans-dont-have-access-to-a-401k.html
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mosby
(16,299 posts)And the Obamas 80 million.
That's rich.
Oh and Warren is worth what, 8 million?
Too bad Sanders didn't get a law degree.
He would have it made.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)As a matter of fact, nobody is even talking about them except you. "BS is not as rich as some other rich people, so he's not really rich" hardly sounds like a winning argument.
Law school involves a lot of hard work. It is not the right choice for everyone.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mosby
(16,299 posts)But I just don't think his assets at his age makes him all that wealthy and, as such, doesn't deserve the attention it's getting.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...a net worth of between $350K and $800K (the form has huge ranges for each category), that's quite an increase in a mere 2-3 years.
He and Jane had combined earnings of about $6M since he's been in Congress. To have a net worth less than $1 million is surprising.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(10,828 posts)because Bernie Sanders has spent his lifetime ranting and raving against 'rich' millionaires and billionaires. Take from the rich, give to the poor and everything will be hunky-dory. Except,
now he's a millionaire+ and the tune has changed to 'multi-millionaires and billionaires.'
I don't think anyone begrudges a 77-year old man his nest-egg. But it does undercut the notion that everyone with a $ million+ in the bank are automatic greed-heads, despicable and the source of all woe. This by virtue of their bottom line, this by being a generalized boogie-man for political purposes.
Sometimes a message comes back to bite you. This is one of those times.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)"A fat bank account for me, but not for thee" is not going to cut it as a lecture topic on the evils of the wealthy delivered by someone's favorite socialist.
BS should retire so he can relax and enjoy his wealth.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)that his hypocrisy would be exposed and he was right...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(10,828 posts)Exactly, Skya. The tax receipts were an issue because he boxed himself in with years of ranting and raving against anyone who broke the millionaire threshold. Suddenly, that included him and his wife. So, the messaging was switched to 'multi-millionaires.' LOL.
It's the vulnerability of hardline positions, messaging that lacks any flexibility and relies on demonizing your opponents. On the hard Left or the hard Right. The Senator from Vermont was caught in his own net.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FreeBe
(104 posts)That is what really is offensive, for me.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Try measuring Bernie to his own standards, rather than measuring Obama to yours.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Voltaire2
(13,012 posts)Ill go with the ADL.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Voltaire2
(13,012 posts)an anti-semitic piece of crap.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)It was the tweet that was the problem.
Politico accused of anti-Semitism over Bernie Sanders illustration, tweet
Politico later changed the tweet of the article to read: Bernie Sanders has three homes and a net worth approaching at least $2 million. In a strict, bottom-line sense, he has become one of those rich people against whom he has so unrelentingly railed.
The tweet included the explanation that: For the record: This replaces a deleted tweet that needed more context. Our apologies.
snip===============================
https://www.timesofisrael.com/politico-accused-of-anti-semitism-over-bernie-sanders-illustration-tweet/
The story itself is still on Politico and the Jewish Journal has not removed its recommendation.
Now that the distraction is gone, voters will be better able to focus on the content of the article
How did he amass three houses and a net worth approaching at least $2 million? The surprisingly conventional middle-class climbing of a radical-sounding socialist.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Voltaire2
(13,012 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)through the process of mindreading and then reframing it in extreme and vulgar language.
I prefer quotes.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Voltaire2
(13,012 posts)Link to tweet
?s=21
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)The point as articulated by the ADL is well-considered, nuanced, and deliberative.
I would never presume to substitute that statement with inaccurate spin and profanity.
What degree of entitlement does it take to misquote an organization and insist "this is what they really meant"?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)It says media organizations have a responsibility to be careful, nowhere do they criticize the article or, in fact, the accompanying graphic.
The ADL does not say the article is anti-Semitic.
The ADL does not say the graphic is anti-Semitic.
Seems quite cut and dry to me.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Voltaire2
(13,012 posts)In the tweet?
Thats your explanation?
Series?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Link to tweet
?s=21
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)as I was thinking of my deceased grandmother, Una.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,154 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,252 posts)I'm glad Politico apologized for the tweet and changed it, but is standing by their story.
Now the focus is back where it belongs:
How did he amass three houses and a net worth approaching at least $2 million? The surprisingly conventional middle-class climbing of a radical-sounding socialist.
snip=================================
The champion of the underclass and castigator of the 1 percent has found himself in the socioeconomic penthouse of his rhetorical boogeymen. This development, seen mostly as the result of big bucks brought in by the slate of books hes put out in the past few years, predictably has elicited snarky pokes, partisan jabs and charges of hypocrisy. The millionaire socialist!
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/05/24/bernie-sanders-millionaires-226982
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden