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Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:36 PM

 

I like Joe Biden but

He really needs to made some amends regarding the drug war and his role in it. He also needs to call for an immediate end to federal marijuana prohibition.

https://www.freedomleaf.com/joe-biden-drug-war-apology/
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Reply I like Joe Biden but (Original post)
cannabis_flower Mar 2019 OP
RKP5637 Mar 2019 #1
roody Mar 2019 #2
cannabis_flower Mar 2019 #3
elleng Mar 2019 #8
Joe Biden Mar 2019 #4
elleng Mar 2019 #5
CentralMass Mar 2019 #7
True Dough Mar 2019 #26
we can do it Mar 2019 #6
CentralMass Mar 2019 #9
workinclasszero Mar 2019 #25
CentralMass Mar 2019 #27
awesomerwb1 Mar 2019 #12
Blue_true Mar 2019 #22
LakeArenal Mar 2019 #10
SWBTATTReg Mar 2019 #11
cannabis_flower Mar 2019 #14
AlexSFCA Mar 2019 #13
cannabis_flower Mar 2019 #16
AlexSFCA Mar 2019 #18
cannabis_flower Mar 2019 #21
Pisces Mar 2019 #15
cannabis_flower Mar 2019 #17
marylandblue Mar 2019 #19
Gothmog Mar 2019 #20
Blue_true Mar 2019 #23
aikoaiko Mar 2019 #24

Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:39 PM

1. Yep!!! Definitely agree!!! This prohibition on marijuana is among one of the more stupid things

 

the US has done ... and it was all based on politics by Nixon to punish certain people in his mind.
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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:42 PM

2. Biden campaigned for Repug Upton

 

In Michigan.
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Response to roody (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:46 PM

3. Really? Unbelievable!

 

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Response to cannabis_flower (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:54 PM

8. No, he didn't campaign for him,

 

he was polite about him.
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Response to roody (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:48 PM

4. He complimented Upton

 

That's all.
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Response to Joe Biden (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:53 PM

5. Right, was polite.

 

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Response to Joe Biden (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:54 PM

7. It seens to have involved a $200k spesking fee.

 

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Response to Joe Biden (Reply #4)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 10:24 AM

26. Wait a second!

 

You're Joe Biden, but you're supporting Pete Buttigieg?

MIND BLOWN!!!


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Response to roody (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:54 PM

6. BS

 

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Response to we can do it (Reply #6)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:56 PM

9. For the discussion... (I like Joe Biden)

 

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https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/01/joe-biden-fred-upton-paid-speech-2020-bipartisanship.html
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Response to CentralMass (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 10:18 AM

25. Damn! Imagine the bloody OUTRAGE on DU if Bernie had done this!

 

From your link:

Joe Biden gave a paid speech to a Republican-friendly crowd in Michigan, where the former vice president praised the work of a GOP congressman who was locked in a tight battle for reelection, calling Rep. Fred Upton “one of the finest guys I’ve ever worked with.” Upton— who touted Biden’s de facto endorsement at a debate the very next day—went on to defeat his Democratic challenger Matt Longjohn by 4.5 points in the battleground district.
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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #25)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 11:17 PM

27. +1

 

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Response to roody (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 07:12 PM

12. Cool story bro

 

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Response to roody (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 01:25 AM

22. He DID NOT do that. If Joe could not fully support the Dem choice,

 

he usually said nothing. He didn't announce that he could not support the Dem like Bernie did with Beto and a couple of other Dems.
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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:57 PM

10. Joe will be ready to respond.

 

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 07:11 PM

11. I think that there were a lot of people involved in this drug war mess which truly didn't solve ...

 

anything anyways so a lot more people than Biden needs to be blamed too.

I'm not defending Biden but there were a lot more people involved in this whole mess in the 'war on drugs'.

Perhaps move on and do it right this time around, which seems to be happening now? E.g., legalized medical M, legalized M in lots of states. Concentrate limited resources on interdiction of 'hard' drugs and spend more on rehab processes (which obviously needs a lot more money too). We keep seeing these desired outcomes but results are sometimes lacking or scrawny.

One note...when drug money/shipments were seized by the police and/or other entities, they seized the assets supposed supplied by illegal drug money, and spent oftentimes the seized funds on themselves, equipment etc. In many cases this was excessive.

I didn't hear of any of these seized funds going to support rehab programs but I may be wrong here in this assumption. The court recently ruled on these types of seizures just recently too, putting an end to excessive asset seizures:

Last week's U.S. Supreme Court decision on the practice of civil asset forfeiture means that the Eighth Amendment's constitutional ban on excessive fines also applies to states (Feb 24, 19)
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Response to SWBTATTReg (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 07:26 PM

14. Yes, there are a lot of other people to blame but...

 

most of them aren't running or considering running for President.

Bernie Sanders got elected to the U.S. House of Representatives in 1990. He served as a U.S. Representative for 16 years before being elected to the U.S. Senate in 2006. Here's an article about his vote for a the 1994 tough-on-crime law but he did as a compromise (https://www.vox.com/2016/2/26/11116412/bernie-sanders-mass-incarceration) and has talked extensively about how this needs to change.
Everyone else running for President wasn't around back then.
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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 07:26 PM

13. I thought he opposes marijuana legalization

 

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Response to AlexSFCA (Reply #13)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 07:49 PM

16. So what?

 

A lot of politicians change their positions over the years. A lot of people didn't support gay rights a few years ago. Now they do - at least on the Democratic Party side.

Even quite a few Republicans have changed their views on marijuana legalization - I'm thinking John Boehner, Bob Barr and others.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Reply #16)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 08:14 PM

18. I don't know if he changed his position on that

 

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Response to AlexSFCA (Reply #18)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 12:17 AM

21. Someone can always..

 

change their position on something, they just need to be convinced.
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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 07:49 PM

15. He needs to win and fix the mess Trump has made.

 

That’s all.
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Response to Pisces (Reply #15)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 07:50 PM

17. That's all he needs to do if..

 

he wins the primaries. I'd vote for him in the general, but if he wants my vote in the primaries he has some work to do.
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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 08:17 PM

19. The problem with a career as long as Biden's

 

is that you end up having a hand in everything both good and bad, but the bad stuff will be used against you.
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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Mon Mar 4, 2019, 08:18 PM

20. I like Joe Biden and would support him if he runs

 

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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 01:35 AM

23. Since 2010.

 

We have had Sandy Hook, San Bernardino, Orlando, Las Vegas, Pittsburgh. Yet Bernie has remained staunch progun. Bernie must also answer questions about equal pay for women and sexual harrassment since he had issues with both in 2016. The point is that ALL of the candidate standing on stage will have to explain why they chose a particular path. I support Hickenloooer, he should be asked and must answer why he supported fracking in his state and what his position on climate change is. How those questions get answered will determine who I vote for when the primary reaches my state on SEC Tuesday.
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Response to cannabis_flower (Original post)

Tue Mar 5, 2019, 01:55 AM

24. And admit that extra bankruptcy protections for credit card companies was evil.

 

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