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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

kentuck

(112,868 posts)
Mon May 20, 2019, 08:39 AM May 2019

Where Joe Biden has the right message?


When he talks about unifying the country.

Most people, Democrats and Republicans, understand that Donald Trump is a divider. That is a negative that he carries. Division with every group or class, depending on which support him and which oppose him. He has managed to divide the nation strongly along Party lines.

In my opinion, Joe Biden is on the right track when talking about uniting America. But, how difficult is it going to be to unite this country?

How different will we be after the next election?

I wonder.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Where Joe Biden has the right message? (Original Post) kentuck May 2019 OP
If Biden wins there will be a universal sigh of relief ucrdem May 2019 #1
Thank you, ucrdem! kentuck May 2019 #3
Once a Democrat is President again, ginnyinWI May 2019 #2
The hard cores have always been out there. LakeArenal May 2019 #7
People have a lot of different ideas about what "unifying the country" looks like, and I don't WhiskeyGrinder May 2019 #4
Unity? Forget it. BeyondGeography May 2019 #5
I agree. abqtommy May 2019 #6
We need to unify the country and stop trump Gothmog May 2019 #8
Obama - 2004 loyalsister May 2019 #9
 

ucrdem

(15,720 posts)
1. If Biden wins there will be a universal sigh of relief
Mon May 20, 2019, 08:45 AM
May 2019

and then the world will get back to getting back to work. If Biden loses we'll probably wind up in some kind of war with Iran and we'll probably manage to lose that , too. So I hope he doesn't. p.s. kentuck your posts rock.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

kentuck

(112,868 posts)
3. Thank you, ucrdem!
Mon May 20, 2019, 08:53 AM
May 2019


I try.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
2. Once a Democrat is President again,
Mon May 20, 2019, 08:47 AM
May 2019

and we don't have a blow-hard tweeting night and day stirring up hate, we can begin to heal. Yes there will still be that minority of right wing haters and their media outlets. But at least not in the White House.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(29,838 posts)
7. The hard cores have always been out there.
Mon May 20, 2019, 11:03 AM
May 2019

I doubt they really vote anyway.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

WhiskeyGrinder

(23,932 posts)
4. People have a lot of different ideas about what "unifying the country" looks like, and I don't
Mon May 20, 2019, 09:29 AM
May 2019

think Biden is aware of that -- or cares. I also think that electing any Democrat as president will not be a reset button the way Biden sells it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

BeyondGeography

(40,026 posts)
5. Unity? Forget it.
Mon May 20, 2019, 09:30 AM
May 2019

Last edited Mon May 20, 2019, 10:06 AM - Edit history (1)

A return to what passed for sanity is what Biden offers. You know, the deal where most people keep their heads down and their politics to themselves because the top guy is no longer a profoundly deformed hater-in-chief winding up fully 1/3 of the country with his half-baked riffs on victimhood. But the victims, real and imagined, will remain unappeasable, with profit- and power-motivated giant communications platforms stoking and merchandising their inchoate rage. Until Democrats realize the best way forward is to stop avoiding this reality and confront it with a credible policy-grounded soundtrack of their own that’s a lot heavier on economics and a little lighter on identity, one that drives that 1/3 number down to, say, less than a quarter, absolutely nothing will change on the “unity” front. But Biden isn’t the guy for all that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
6. I agree.
Mon May 20, 2019, 10:30 AM
May 2019

Unity has never existed in this country. All we need is a fair vote to enable the majority that are not corrupt to assume power and lead/drag the willing and unwilling into a better future for everyone.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(154,840 posts)
8. We need to unify the country and stop trump
Mon May 20, 2019, 11:16 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
9. Obama - 2004
Mon May 20, 2019, 12:15 PM
May 2019

"There is not a red America or a blue America. There is the United States of America."

I could get excited about the idealism then. But now I think I was naive. As a white person, I had no clue about the current racism in this country. I didn't understand my privilege and contribution and I don't want to pretend we can be unified without deep structural change. We have candidates who have put forth plans to take concrete steps towards fixing what the front runner formally helped exacerbate. Sincere work towards eradicating the depth and pervasiveness of racism demands that we look at ourselves and our own contributions. Not the usual defense and dismissals.

If unity means going back to pretending we have come a long way since the founding and slavery, I want none of it. People are treated differently and the systemic manifestations should not be ignored.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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