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Sat May 18, 2019, 11:20 AM

 

How Bernie Sanders Got Rich Selling Books (just the facts)

OK, here is a chart from Forbes showing Sanders' income from book royalties.




Here's the link to Forbes:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chasewithorn/2019/04/12/how-bernie-sanders-the-socialist-senator-amassed-a-25-million-fortune/#42f0e94236bf

Also, here's the link to FEC filings showing: Bernie spent $444,937.50 of his campaign dollars on his book "Our Revolution".

https://www.reddit.com/r/Enough_Sanders_Spam/comments/bfsebt/bernie_spent_44493750_of_campaign_dollars_on_his/


Sanders' book royalties included a $505,000 advance on his book “Where We Go From Here,” which was published in 2018, Newsweek reported.

This is why he has so much income even though this book sold only 26,000 copies.

The publisher figured that since his book "Our Revolution" was a bestseller, then his new book would be one also.

But "Our Revolution" was a bestseller only because he sold the books to himself, using money donated to his campaign.

Somehow all of this doesn't seem quite kosher. But it does explain how Bernie got rich by running for president.
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Vidal May 2019 OP
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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sat May 18, 2019, 11:23 AM

1. Sweet!

 

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sat May 18, 2019, 11:31 AM

2. Hey! Maybe I can do that with my slow-moving book!

 

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sat May 18, 2019, 11:36 AM

3. Not Very Socialistic

 

But it is why $10 would gain you entrance to one of his town halls plus a free book.
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Response to Me. (Reply #3)

Sat May 18, 2019, 11:43 AM

5. Funny cause he isnt a socialist.

 

Regardless of what he or anybody else has called him. Nor are any of his policy proposals. He is a democratic socialist and fair market capitalist which is consistent with this profit.
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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #5)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:20 PM

29. He says he is.

 



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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #29)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:21 PM

30. Go ahead and reread my post

 

Thanks

Regardless of what he or anybody else has called him. Nor are any of his policy proposals.
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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #30)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:23 PM

31. Go ahead and re-watch mine. I'll wait.

 



(You're welcome.)
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #31)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:24 PM

34. I did. He said it. Now your turn :)

 

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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #34)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:28 PM

40. I take him at his word. So should you.

 

I did. He said it.
I know, I know... "he didn't mean it" right?

I keep hearing "he didn't mean it" or "he didn't mean it that way" or "what he meant to say was..." etc etc etc.

What I'm looking for in anyone who wants to be our party's nominee is someone who knows how to say it clearly the first time... someone who says what they mean and means what they say. I just have zero confidence in any candidate who needs to be continually and regularly "translated" by his followers.
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #40)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:44 PM

53. Well that's a start

 

Can you take him at his word that he has a plan to pay for Medicare for all? That his plan for free public higher education and infrastructure will be worthwhile? That he will beat Donald trump? If you take his word on "socialist," take him at his word on these. But I wont hold my breath.
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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #53)

Sat May 18, 2019, 02:30 PM

102. Slogans are not plans.

 

Slogans are not plans.

That his plan for free public higher education and infrastructure will be worthwhile?
What plan? There's no plan, it's just pie-in-the-sky empty promises that will never be funded.

That he will beat Donald trump?
He'd have to be nominated first, and he won't be.

If you take his word on "socialist," take him at his word on these.
Empty promises. Slogans. Bumper stickers... those aren't plans.



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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #102)

Sat May 18, 2019, 02:42 PM

105. Funny how you stopped "taking him at his word" when something substantial is discussed...

 

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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #105)

Sat May 18, 2019, 02:58 PM

107. I'd have to see something substantial first. All I hear are slogans.

 

105. Funny how you stopped "taking him at his word" when something substantial is discussed...
I'd have to see something substantial first. All I hear are slogans.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #107)

Sat May 18, 2019, 06:56 PM

127. You'd have to try to find something substantial first

 

I'm sure you will
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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #127)

Sat May 18, 2019, 07:13 PM

128. Anyone can read things from a wish-list. I guess I just have higher standards...

 

You'd have to try to find something substantial first
Anyone can read things from a wish-list. I guess I just have higher standards. Empty promises without realistic plans aren't substantial.

I'm sure you will
If past history can be used as an indicator to judge future success... I think we've got a long wait ahead before there's anything "substantial" for anyone to judge.

Until then, it's just blowing-smoke and I remain unimpressed.



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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #128)

Sat May 18, 2019, 07:20 PM

129. Good luck!

 

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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #129)

Sat May 18, 2019, 07:26 PM

131. I live in the real world. I don't rely on luck or fantasies...

 

Good luck!
I live in the real world. I don't rely on luck or fantasies, and I can easily tell when someone is blowing-smoke.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #131)

Sat May 18, 2019, 07:31 PM

132. Godspeed?

 

Best wishes? Good... vibes?
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #131)

Sat May 18, 2019, 07:38 PM

133. Gambatte! :)

 

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #40)

Sat May 18, 2019, 01:53 PM

89. Sounds so trumpian! Just another thing trump and Sanders have in common, They need

 

translators so we know" what they really mean"
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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #34)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:30 PM

42. So we simply ignore what candidate's own words & claims. Thats the same thing TRUMP people do.

 

ignore the many things that you dont like in order to justify voting for the man.
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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #42)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:42 PM

51. "Socialist" is short hand for democratic socialist

 

Basic understanding of what socialism actually is versus what he does is relevant. Funny how that would be one of the only things his smears will "take him at his word" at.
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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #51)

Sat May 18, 2019, 01:29 PM

79. I've watched what he's done.

 

I’m not impressed.

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Response to Nuggets (Reply #79)

Sat May 18, 2019, 01:32 PM

81. That's fine. Criticize him for that. Not for what labels people choose for him.

 

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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #81)

Sat May 18, 2019, 01:41 PM

84. Can't do that here

 

His fan club doesn’t want to discuss all of his campaign funds. Strangely they all want to skip the 2016 election funding.
And all of his negative votes or actions are pooh poohed away with ridiculous explanations, like his vote for the 94 crime bill or voting to invade e Irsq in 98(just because the US didn’t go through with the military action doesn’t mean he’s simply exonerated for the vote) He praises Ortega, he foolishly thinks tariffs like the ones Trump has placed are a smart play.

If tariffs “work” with China, there’s theater going on and the actors are the Oligarchs currently running the world.
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Response to Nuggets (Reply #84)

Sat May 18, 2019, 02:39 PM

104. Sanders also voted against Russian sanctions, didn't he?

 

That disqualifies him from receiving my support.
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #104)

Sat May 18, 2019, 03:14 PM

109. BS missed the last Russia sanctions vote.

 

Now that Russia sanctions are no longer coupled to Iran sanctions, the slippery "I don't want to jeopardize the Iran treaty" excuse for voting against the Russia sanctions will no longer work.

BS missed the January vote when he left to meet the whistle blowers who exposed the sexual discrimination, bias, and violence in the 2016 BS campaign.

The whistle blowers were in Washington for three days of meetings. The fiery socialist/independent/democrat had promised to meet with the whistle blowers to address the predatory culture of his 2016 campaign. BS spent one hour with them in the course of three days and that one hour exactly coincided with the time of the Russia sanctions vote in the Senate.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/16/us/politics/bernie-sanders-discrimination-sexism.html

Quelle coïncidence !



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Response to lapucelle (Reply #109)

Sat May 18, 2019, 03:16 PM

110. Ah... unions and stuff.

 

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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #51)

Sat May 18, 2019, 09:21 PM

134. Sanders praising Fidel Castro & Ortega, declining to condemn Maduro & Chavez tell us enough.

 

I'll take him at ALL those words too.
Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas.
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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #5)

Sat May 18, 2019, 02:01 PM

91. he is on video saying quote I am a socialist unquote nt

 

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Response to msongs (Reply #91)

Sat May 18, 2019, 02:10 PM

95. You dont believe him on most things, why suddenly do you believe him on that?

 

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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #5)

Sat May 18, 2019, 02:03 PM

93. Still peddling that eh?

 

Let us know when you settle on something.
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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #93)

Sat May 18, 2019, 02:11 PM

97. You dont believe him on most things, why suddenly do you believe him on that?

 

let me know when you figure out what a socialist actually is.
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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #97)

Sat May 18, 2019, 02:17 PM

99. I'm just calling him what he calls himself.

 

It’s kind of pitiful to watch his supporters run away scared to death of what he actually calls himself. You were all so proud of that word not very long ago. Oh well, I guess we’ve all been confused politically at one time or another. Sanders fans will settle on something eventually that fits I suppose.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #99)

Sat May 18, 2019, 02:18 PM

100. So you take him at his word on that?

 

The few times he said it? Because he calls himself a Democratic Socialist. "Socialist" as shorthand. Maybe one day you can get over an obsession over labels and criticize him on something actually substantial.
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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #100)

Sat May 18, 2019, 02:21 PM

101. He is a socialist, as he says.

 

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And I’ve criticized Bernard on plenty of things besides the fact he is a self identified socialist, being soft on guns and his refusal to sanction putin’s Russia for interfering in our elections support for 3rd world banana republic dictators and so on.

Bernie has a lot of faults so the fact he is a self identified socialist is just more grist for the mill. It’s hardly the entire game.
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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sat May 18, 2019, 11:42 AM

4. Good for him!

 

He actually earned his wealth. Not by making speeches for large contributions to questionable interests, but by selling books discussing his principles. Well done!
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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #4)

Sat May 18, 2019, 11:46 AM

6. Many of the books he "sold" were purchased by his own campaign to give out free....

 

....to those who bought tickets to his speaking engagements, for which he was prohibited by law from being paid.

No speaking fees, but book royalties.
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Response to George II (Reply #6)

Sat May 18, 2019, 11:49 AM

8. ..

 

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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #8)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:15 PM

21. Look at the OP, $444,900 was spent by the Bernie 2016 campaign on "books" purchased from....

 

....Verso Books, who call themselves "the largest independent, radical publishing house in the English-speaking world." and they just happen to have an extensive Sanders blog on their website and distribute Sanders books.

Link to Sanders 2016 expenditures as reported to the FEC, totaling $444,900. Why would a campaign spend almost a half million dollars on books from a "radical" book seller?

https://www.fec.gov/data/disbursements/?two_year_transaction_period=2016&cycle=2016&data_type=processed&committee_id=C00577130&min_date=01%2F01%2F2015&max_date=12%2F31%2F2016&recipient_state=NY&min_amount=100000&max_amount=400000&line_number=F3P-23

But I'm sure this isn't good enough.
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Response to George II (Reply #21)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:24 PM

35. Quite

 

and then there's the matter of scamming publishes with fake sales numbers though as someone said, no one twisted their arms
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Response to George II (Reply #21)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:31 PM

43. I'll await the response, since you have provided the requested info.

 

Which apparently was assumed not to exist.
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Response to George II (Reply #21)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:55 PM

58. No it's not good enough George. Click on the links for the Verso Books expenditures for his book

 

Outsider in the White House, originally published in 1997, republished by Verso Books and given out to campaign donors.

They have the disbursement year of 2015.

$148,312.50
Disbursement date October 25, 2015

$296,625.00
Disbursement date December 1, 2015

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Response to Autumn (Reply #58)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:59 PM

62. The two transactions. They don't say when the books were delivered to the campaign.

 



Recipient information
Recipient name VERSO BOOKS
Recipient city and state BROOKLYN, NY, 112018346
Transaction information
Amount $148,312.50
Disbursement date October 25, 2015
Filing date
Description BOOKS
Purpose category OTHER



Recipient information
Recipient name VERSO BOOKS
Recipient city and state BROOKLYN, NY, 112018346
Transaction information
Amount $296,625.00
Disbursement date December 1, 2015
Filing date
Description BOOKS
Purpose category OTHER
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Response to George II (Reply #62)

Sat May 18, 2019, 01:03 PM

67. I know I got one in 2016 so there's that

 

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Response to Autumn (Reply #67)

Sat May 18, 2019, 01:07 PM

70. Right, that $450K was spent at the end of 2015, so there's that

 

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Response to George II (Reply #21)

Sat May 18, 2019, 01:00 PM

63. In other words, a shell game.

 

By which the gamer (aka "con man" ) extracts money from dupes (aka "marks" ) and slips a percentage into his own bank account.
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Response to MH1 (Reply #63)

Sat May 18, 2019, 01:09 PM

72. Years ago when I worked in midtown Manhattan, there were guys like this every few corners:

 

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Response to George II (Reply #6)

Sat May 18, 2019, 11:52 AM

10. Yes InDEED

 

He's simply using a different means to accomplish the same end. I wonder how many Bernie supporters know their contribution was used to purchase a book from Bernie that was written by Bernie, which resulted in their contribution ending up in Bernie's personal bank account?
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Response to George II (Reply #6)

Sat May 18, 2019, 11:52 AM

11. Is It Legal To Use Campaign Funds

 

to buy his own books?
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Response to Me. (Reply #11)

Sat May 18, 2019, 11:55 AM

13. Yes

 

But he could not receive royalties from the purchase.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Enough_Sanders_Spam/comments/bfsebt/bernie_spent_44493750_of_campaign_dollars_on_his/
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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #13)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:13 PM

18. But Didn't He

 

Receive Royalties? Any book sold gave hin a royalty regardless of the seller.
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Sat May 18, 2019, 12:15 PM

20. Post 15 actually laid it out well

 

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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #20)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:16 PM

23. I Saw That

 

and still think a lot of wiggle, wiggle is going on here...
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Response to Me. (Reply #23)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:18 PM

25. The accusation is he became a millionaire through campaign money

 

He did not. The books that made him money were published long after the book in question.
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Response to Me. (Reply #23)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:23 PM

33. But if course there is a lot of wiggle when people are posting and pushing "alternative facts"

 

worthy of Huckbee
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Response to Autumn (Reply #33)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:25 PM

37. Or THe Art Of The Deal Ala Traitor Trump

 

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Sat May 18, 2019, 12:28 PM

41. It only works that way if Bernie has mastered the art of time travel. But don't let that

 

dissuade you.
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Response to Autumn (Reply #41)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:32 PM

45. Blind Me?

 

Oh I see him quite clearly
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Sat May 18, 2019, 12:38 PM

48. Blind you??? I see the problem now, my response to you confused you.

 

here's the meaning of the word I used in my response to you.

dissuade[ dih-sweyd ]

verb (used with object), dis·suad·ed, dis·suad·ing.
to deter by advice or persuasion; persuade not to do something (often followed by from ):
She dissuaded him from leaving home.
Archaic . to advise or urge against:
to dissuade an action.


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41. It only works that way if Bernie has mastered the art of time travel. But don't let that

dissuade you.


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Response to Autumn (Reply #48)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:47 PM

55. Oh Dear Oh Dear

 

The pompous virus has been passed on
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Response to Me. (Reply #11)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:53 PM

57. Apparently so. It's an end run around the law. Senators are prohibited from receiving honoraria...

 

...(speaking fees) but can receive book royalties. So he gets someone to buy up all his books (in this case Bernie 2016) and then they're handed out to attendees of his speaking appearances, who pay to attend.
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Response to George II (Reply #6)

Sat May 18, 2019, 11:54 AM

12. ...

 

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Response to George II (Reply #6)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:17 PM

24. Got a link to that George? I got the book when I donated. I didn't buy any tickets to

 

his speaking engagements. His first best seller was published in November 2016. The election was over.
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Response to Autumn (Reply #24)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:56 PM

60. But you essentially "bought" the book anyway, you wouldn't have gotten it if you didn't contribute.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #60)

Sat May 18, 2019, 01:02 PM

66. Well I didn't get a private meeting and a promise to vote for legislation I was lobbying

 

for but I got a damn good book.
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Response to Autumn (Reply #66)

Sat May 18, 2019, 01:06 PM

68. Please read the subject of the OP.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #68)

Sat May 18, 2019, 01:09 PM

71. I did. Are you naive enough to believe in time travel? Cause that's the only way the OP works

 

Read it or don't and I'm done with this nonsense.

The problem you have is that the book that the campaign spent $444,937.50 on in 2015 ,

Outsider in the White House, was published in 1997, republished by Verso Books, in 2015 and gi
ven out to campaign donors. The books that made him money were published in 2016, 2017, 2017.
Where are the documents showing he had his campaign pay for the last three books that made him a millionaire?
All you have listed are the raw expenditures file from the FEC web from 2015. Nothing after that.

Are you claiming he went back into time to 2015 make money off his three bestsellers that were written and published in 2016, 2017, 2018? Cause that's pretty fucking awesome if he can do that.

Our Revolution 2016 was published by St Martin's Press
Bernie Sanders Guide to Political Revolution 2017 was published by Henry Holt and Company
Where We Go from Here: Two Years in the Resistance 2018 was published by St. Martin's Press

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Response to Autumn (Reply #71)

Sat May 18, 2019, 01:12 PM

73. Ever hear of an advance purchase?

 

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Response to George II (Reply #73)

Sat May 18, 2019, 01:21 PM

76. One last time. The book was originally published in 1997 and reprinted in 2015.

 

Time travel George is not a thing. And for Bernie to have gotten rich off his 2016. 2017, and 2018 books that would have had to happen. Here's an idea. You all go do a search on his tax returns. Maybe you will all get a Pulitzer Prize.
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Response to Autumn (Reply #76)

Sat May 18, 2019, 01:31 PM

80. That's the book that YOU received, not necessarily what the $445K was spent on.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #80)

Sat May 18, 2019, 01:51 PM

88. Guess what George? That's the book he had published by Verso Publishing, the one he gave to his

 

donors. And he had 2 co-authors so if he got rich off that book so did they.
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Response to Autumn (Reply #66)

Sat May 18, 2019, 01:14 PM

74. Can these smears also be applied to non-votes to hold

 

Russian oligarchs accountable for hacking our election, 30-something indictments/convictions/guilty pleas so far. Was there a “private meeting and a promise to vote for legislation” (your accusation). Why let guilty oligarchs off the hook?
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Response to Autumn (Reply #24)

Sat May 18, 2019, 04:22 PM

112. Thanks for pointing out

 

that without the Democratic Party’s infrastructure Sanders would never have become a millionaire. They sure helped him get visible. In fact without the Democratic Party he wouldn’t have a campaign, except free college without a viable plan to pay.
That’s okay, Sen. Brian Schatz reintroduced his Debt Free College Act on Wednesday with Rep. Mark Pocan.
Dems as a team are always better.
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Response to Nuggets (Reply #112)

Sat May 18, 2019, 04:25 PM

113. The Democratic Party's infrastructure didn't write the three books that made him a millionaire.

 

He did that.
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Response to Autumn (Reply #113)

Sat May 18, 2019, 04:41 PM

114. Yeah right!

 

Lol! He needed their infrastructure to make a name. He even said that himself. His campaign platform has been the Dems platform for decades.
His platform and speeches mirror Jim Webb’s 2007 State of the Union speech.

Likely Bernie had a ghost writer who sat and listened to the same campaign speech he’s repeated over and over.

Berned out on Bernie.
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Response to Nuggets (Reply #114)

Sat May 18, 2019, 04:49 PM

115. Yeah right!

 

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Response to Autumn (Reply #115)

Sat May 18, 2019, 04:57 PM

116. Yeah right.

 

Here’s

Jim Webb’s SOTU response 2007

https://m.


Anthony Weiner was the one who started talking about Medicare for All

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Response to Nuggets (Reply #116)

Sat May 18, 2019, 05:02 PM

117. Jim Webb. The guy who decided not to run in 2016 because he was "not comfortable"

 

and "unhappy" with many of the democratic party's political positions? That one? Oh well.

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Sat May 18, 2019, 05:17 PM

120. A rebuttal designed to try to take focus off these facts.

 

Name anyone who’s happy with every position in any political party.

Webb’s response is from ALL the Democrats. It’s the message from the entire party.

All of Sanders campaign speeches have nearly identical points. Strange isn’t it? Strange how he is “leading the way” after the Democrats already made these points and have been working to reach these goals?

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Response to Nuggets (Reply #120)

Sat May 18, 2019, 05:23 PM

122. Convenient. You bring him up, I point out a fact about him and I'm taking the focus off your opinion

 

Done here Nugget, I'm not fond of sea lions.
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Response to Autumn (Reply #122)

Sat May 18, 2019, 05:44 PM

124. And you purposely missed why I brought him up.

 

So yeah, I’d expect you to be done with the FACTS I posted. Can’t handle talking about his 2007 SOTU speech? Why not Autumn?




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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sat May 18, 2019, 11:48 AM

7. So what's not kosher, besides

 

your obvious dislike for Bernie?

Seems to me the publisher took the risk. No one strong-armed them.
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Response to babylonsister (Reply #7)

Sat May 18, 2019, 11:50 AM

9. He did great.

 

No question about it.
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Response to babylonsister (Reply #7)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:32 PM

44. What's not kosher is the book the OP is lying about Bernie making money off wasn't written

 

in 2015. Wrong book, wrong date, wrong publisher

Autumn (34,487 posts)

15. The problem you have is that the book that the campaign spent $444,937.50 on in 2015 ,

Outsider in the White House, was published in 1997, republished by Verso Books, in 2015 and given out to campaign donors. The books that made him money were published in 2016, 2017, 2017.
Where are the documents showing he had his campaign pay for the last three books that made him a millionaire?
All you have listed are the raw expenditures file from the FEC web from 2015. Nothing after that.

Are you claiming he went back into time to 2015 make money off his three bestsellers that were written and published in 2016, 2017, 2018? Cause that's pretty fucking awesome if he can do that.

Our Revolution 2016 was published by St Martin's Press
Bernie Sanders Guide to Political Revolution 2017 was published by Henry Holt and Company
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Response to Autumn (Reply #44)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:34 PM

46. Wow!

 



Desperate people...
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Response to babylonsister (Reply #46)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:43 PM

52. The way the spin is going it's almost Sarah Huckabee territory.

 

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Sat May 18, 2019, 01:02 PM

65. WOW is right!!

 


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Sat May 18, 2019, 05:11 PM

118. This is where the stainless steel De Lorean comes in.

 



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Sat May 18, 2019, 05:12 PM

119. I can just see Bernie jumping out of that.

 

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Response to Autumn (Reply #119)

Sat May 18, 2019, 05:21 PM

121. Get serious now, It's not so far fetched.

 



(snip)

The similarities between the megalomaniacal billionaire hotel-casino owner with hair the texture of cotton candy, a penchant for surgically enhanced arm candy and outsize ambitions that appears in Back to the Future Part II and the one presently appearing on the presidential campaign trail?

Not so coincidental after all!

Back to the Future Part II screenwriter Bob Gale confirmed in an interview with the Daily Beast that Donald Trump was the inspiration for the character he and director Robert Zemeckis created back in 1989.

“We thought about it when we made the movie! Are you kidding?” Gale told the Daily Beast. “You watch Part II again and there’s a scene where Marty confronts Biff in his office and there’s a huge portrait of Biff on the wall behind Biff, and there’s one moment where Biff kind of stands up and he takes exactly the same pose as the portrait? Yeah.”

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/back-to-the-future-writer-biff-is-donald-trump-190408/




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Response to Uncle Joe (Reply #121)

Sat May 18, 2019, 05:32 PM

123. Well Biff fits the picture.

 

Bernie does have a slight resemblance to Christopher Lloyd.

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Response to Autumn (Reply #123)

Sat May 18, 2019, 05:45 PM

125. That's what I read in some scholarly articles and at least one eye witness account

 

on an older video that Bernie looks like Doc Brown.

That's seems like a most poetic statement of Trump continually giving the thumbs while going down.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:04 PM

14. Essentially a money-laundering scheme to pocket campaign contributions

 

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Reply #14)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:14 PM

19. THat's What I'm Wondering

 

Post #18
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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Reply #14)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:46 PM

54. I don't think so. Seems that candidates can't get royalties from what the campaign buys.

 

This is stated by a couple of posters in the Reddit responses to the OP in Reddit.

It seems likely that they bought a bunch of books to sell through their campaign (you know how the candidates all have things for sale). The campaign may have made a profit, but the candidate doesn't get royalties on those books.

But a poster pointed out that if a campaign buys a bunch of books, retailers don't know that and think the book is selling more than it is, which may make them buy some for their inventory. So that would have resulted in royalties, I guess.

The Reddit response post also referenced that the FEC noticed, and issued him a long campaign regs letter, requesting more information. http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/847/201605100300045847/201605100300045847.pdf He didn't get a violation, so I guess it was okay.





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Sat May 18, 2019, 12:05 PM

15. The problem you have is that the book that the campaign spent $444,937.50 on in 2015 ,

 

Outsider in the White House, was published in 1997, republished by Verso Books, in 2015 and given out to campaign donors. The books that made him money were published in 2016, 2017, 2017.
Where are the documents showing he had his campaign pay for the last three books that made him a millionaire?
All you have listed are the raw expenditures file from the FEC web from 2015. Nothing after that.

Are you claiming he went back into time to 2015 make money off his three bestsellers that were written and published in 2016, 2017, 2018? Cause that's pretty fucking awesome if he can do that.

Our Revolution 2016 was published by St Martin's Press
Bernie Sanders Guide to Political Revolution 2017 was published by Henry Holt and Company
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Response to Autumn (Reply #15)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:11 PM

16. +1000

 

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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #16)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:19 PM

26. They are lying to smear Bernie and they know it. It's disgraceful.

 

If Bernie spent $444,937.50 of his campaign dollars on his book "Our Revolution" that's a
fucking cool magic trick since they are claiming he got money for it a year before it was written from a publisher that didn't publish it.
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Sat May 18, 2019, 12:19 PM

27. Agreed. These smear campaigns are uncalled for.

 

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Response to Autumn (Reply #15)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:56 PM

59. The Bernie bashing never ends...regardless of the facts!!!

 

I'll bet you dollars to donuts, this same line of attack against Bernie will be recycled dozens of more times, no matter how many times you continue to point this out.

It's the "Bernie Standard," rearing its ugly head, like the time there were made up facts that Bernie never disclosed any of his tax returns, when he did... you remember that? Only Bernie sposedly had "something to hide." Or, that the tax documents Bernie had provided were alleged to have been only summary pages, when that also wasn't true. I could cite you numerous other examples of the "Bernie Standard," that's never applied to other candidates.

I commend you for fighting the good fight... though, it's a never-ending battle I'm afraid.



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Sat May 18, 2019, 03:54 PM

111. Back to the drawing board for the Bernie obsessed

 

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Sat May 18, 2019, 12:11 PM

17. If Bernie spent $444,937.50 of his campaign dollars on his book "Our Revolution" that's a

 

fucking cool magic trick since he got money for it a year before it was written from a publisher that didn't publish it.
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Sat May 18, 2019, 12:58 PM

61. I also wonder if the "Bernie Standard" has been applied to other prior candidates who wrote books.

 


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Sat May 18, 2019, 12:16 PM

22. He has every right to earn money; it's just a shame he refused to do so when his kid was on welfare

 

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Reply #22)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:20 PM

28. ..

 

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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #28)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:24 PM

36. Sanders was too busy running as a socialst to support his family:

 


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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Reply #36)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:25 PM

38. Shameless reaching and smearing.

 

Wow
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Sat May 18, 2019, 12:27 PM

39. Neither reaching, nor smearing. He put his own aspirations above providing for his child, and

 

any defense or dissembling is deplorable, IMO.
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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Reply #39)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:36 PM

47. That's none of your business, is it.

 

Who knows what was going on between them? Certainly not you.
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Sat May 18, 2019, 12:38 PM

49. Actually, a lot of people do. But some people don't care.

 

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:39 PM

50. Since you seem to have a singular negative focus here you have earned an ignore.

 

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sat May 18, 2019, 12:51 PM

56. Pay no attention. Move along. Just another

 

shameless character assassination built on lies and misleading crapola.

Sometimes I wonder ...
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Response to KPN (Reply #56)

Sat May 18, 2019, 01:06 PM

69. I don't wonder anymore . When someone shows you what they are believe them.

 

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Response to Autumn (Reply #69)

Sat May 18, 2019, 01:21 PM

77. perhaps you could use that advice

 

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Response to Skittles (Reply #77)

Sat May 18, 2019, 01:27 PM

78. I'm not the one creating an OP filled with lies that Bernie scammed money in 2015

 

and got rich off books that were not yet written. The OP claimed that Bernie scammed $444,937.50 of his campaign dollars on his book "Our Revolution". In 2015 by Verso Publishing. His book Our Revolution was not yet written and was not published by Verso. The OP knows that.
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Response to Autumn (Reply #69)

Sat May 18, 2019, 02:02 PM

92. that went way over your head

 

over and out
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Sun May 19, 2019, 11:09 AM

135. Oh, I don't wonder about some things ... but I can't safely say what those are here.

 

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Sun May 19, 2019, 11:22 AM

136. Yeah

 

there's that for sure.
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Sat May 18, 2019, 01:16 PM

75. Wow, scandalous. This should be vetted.

 

smh
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Response to R B Garr (Reply #75)

Sat May 18, 2019, 01:33 PM

83. It isnt exactly true as claimed.

 

It has already been vetted if you read the reddit thread
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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #83)

Sat May 18, 2019, 07:20 PM

130. Reddit doesn't vet. They are not investigative journalists.

 

It’s just another website.
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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sat May 18, 2019, 01:33 PM

82. I vote for a separate anti-Bernie forum

 

I can barely even glance at this forum without feeling like I need a shower. It’s just plain toxic.
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Response to G_j (Reply #82)

Sat May 18, 2019, 01:44 PM

85. There's a capital idea! nt

 

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Response to G_j (Reply #82)

Sat May 18, 2019, 01:50 PM

87. In that case, we'd need a separate anti-Biden forum as well.

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #87)

Sat May 18, 2019, 01:54 PM

90. also a good idea... nt

 

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Response to G_j (Reply #82)

Sat May 18, 2019, 02:12 PM

98. You'll be alright.

 

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Response to G_j (Reply #82)

Sat May 18, 2019, 02:34 PM

103. It's just sad to see all the devisiveness that's created by these unfounded attacks on Bernie.

 

In the end, such divisiveness only helps tRumpty Dumbty.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sat May 18, 2019, 01:45 PM

86. The new book will also be a bestseller

 

when his 2020 campaign buys and distributes it to contributors.
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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sat May 18, 2019, 02:46 PM

106. BS did receive royalties for the sale of an updated version his old book in 2016.

 

Sen. Bernie Sanders' income spiked in 2016 as he finished a bid for the presidency, according to a new financial disclosure report filed Sunday with the U.S. Senate.

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The new report shows that Sanders earned $63,750 from a version [of one of his revolution© books] marketed at young adults, which is expected to be published this summer, as well as $6,735 from his 1997 memoir, "Outsider in the House," which was updated and re-titled "Outsider in the White House" for the presidential campaign.


https://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/politics/2017/06/05/sanders-rakes-865-000-book-deals/371038001/

I wonder if Verso hired someone to help ghost the update or if it's just a new cover.
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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sat May 18, 2019, 02:58 PM

108. Lets see now

 

Another negative post about a candidate, several now on Bernie, and one I know of on Harris, anyone else?
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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sun May 19, 2019, 02:20 PM

137. I'm surprised that a book which has sold 26,000 copies qualifies as a best-seller. Frankly,

 

that figure sounds pathetic to me. I thought that it took at least hundreds of thousands of books sold to qualify as a "best-seller". But 26,000 copies sold? 27,000 copies sold? Doesn't sound impressive at all.
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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Mon May 20, 2019, 12:42 PM

138. Who is surprised by this?

 

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