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Fri May 17, 2019, 05:40 PM

 

Bernie's mystery Soviet tapes revealed (by Politico)

Over the course of 10 days, Sanders, who was then the mayor of Burlington, and his dozen-member delegation traveled to three cities: Moscow, Yaroslavl and Leningrad, now known as St. Petersburg.

Their goal was to establish a “sister city” relationship with Yaroslavl, a community along the Volga River home to about 500,000 people. At the time, the Soviet Union was beginning to open itself to the world, if only slightly — and Sanders was a self-described socialist with an unusually large interest in foreign affairs for a mayor.



https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/17/bernie-sanders-mystery-soviet-video-revealed-1330347
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Skya Rhen May 2019 OP
NurseJackie May 2019 #1
SMC22307 May 2019 #2
Mr.Bill May 2019 #4
SMC22307 May 2019 #9
InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #10
InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #8
SMC22307 May 2019 #15
InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #23
pnwmom May 2019 #19
SMC22307 May 2019 #21
pnwmom May 2019 #33
SMC22307 May 2019 #37
Kurt V. May 2019 #3
crazytown May 2019 #38
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Kurt V. May 2019 #39
billpolonsky May 2019 #5
InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #11
Autumn May 2019 #13
InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #25
Autumn May 2019 #26
InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #32
Hassin Bin Sober May 2019 #14
SMC22307 May 2019 #18
Autumn May 2019 #29
Uncle Joe May 2019 #36
SMC22307 May 2019 #17
InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #30
nolabear May 2019 #6
Nanjeanne May 2019 #7
Uncle Joe May 2019 #12
InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #31
stonecutter357 May 2019 #16
Gothmog May 2019 #20
Lucky Luciano May 2019 #22
Gothmog May 2019 #24
left-of-center2012 May 2019 #27
JoeOtterbein May 2019 #28
Politicub May 2019 #34
democrank May 2019 #35

Response to Skya Rhen (Original post)

Fri May 17, 2019, 05:44 PM

1. Wow!

 

It will take me a little while to process that.
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Response to Skya Rhen (Original post)

Fri May 17, 2019, 05:47 PM

2. It's hilarious that folks are trying to portray this as something nefarious.

 

Seriously, fucking hilarious.
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Response to SMC22307 (Reply #2)

Fri May 17, 2019, 05:51 PM

4. I agree.

 

It seems we want our prospective president to have experience in foreign policy, just as long as they have never set foot in Russia. We went through the same thing with Bill Clinton.
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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #4)

Fri May 17, 2019, 05:58 PM

9. Exactly. One of my favorite classes in high school was...

 

Soviet Area Studies. I would have gone in a heartbeat! I applaud Bernie and the Burlington delegation for pursuing a sister city relationship... would have been fascinating.
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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #4)

Fri May 17, 2019, 05:58 PM

10. Yes, I remember that. It's gotta be a problem if it involves Bernie... that's just how it is.

 


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Response to SMC22307 (Reply #2)

Fri May 17, 2019, 05:56 PM

8. Beyond hilarious... more like divisive.

 


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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #8)

Fri May 17, 2019, 06:16 PM

15. Sounds like a line of attack that would be coming from Republicans...

 

not our side. Ooga-booga -- commies!
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Response to SMC22307 (Reply #15)

Fri May 17, 2019, 06:32 PM

23. You'd think those promoting such divisive attacks would realize that only helps tRumpty Dumbty.

 

We need to stay united if we want to ensure defeating that bastard!!


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Response to SMC22307 (Reply #2)

Fri May 17, 2019, 06:20 PM

19. You don't think it would be an issue in the general? With all the concern people have about Russia?

 

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #19)

Fri May 17, 2019, 06:25 PM

21. Americans don't seem to care that Russia stole the election.

 

Why would they care if Bernie wore a towel at a spa and drank vodka in pursuit of a sister-city relationship? Although Republicans are masters at twisting the truth and attacking, so they'll be able to use it. But they'll be able to find something to use with any Democratic candidate...
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Response to SMC22307 (Reply #21)

Fri May 17, 2019, 07:04 PM

33. We'd be throwing it away as an issue if we put up a candidate who seemed to have close ties. n/t

 

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #33)

Sun May 19, 2019, 12:34 PM

37. It's not an issue. The "average American" doesn't seem to care.

 

Trump, McConnell, et al. have close ties. GOPers wear "I'd rather be Russian than a Democrat" to rallies. When Republicans need all things Russia to attack Democrats, however, they'll be successful at manipulating those same unwashed masses to suddenly think Russia is "bad." They're simplistic, but effective.
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Response to Skya Rhen (Original post)

Fri May 17, 2019, 05:49 PM

3. it will always be Leningrad to me :)

 

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Response to Kurt V. (Reply #3)

Sun May 19, 2019, 01:03 PM

38. 'We will always have Leningrad"

 



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Response to crazytown (Reply #38)

Sun May 19, 2019, 07:17 PM

39. .

 

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Response to Skya Rhen (Original post)

Fri May 17, 2019, 05:51 PM

5. Good Lord

 


"Throughout the videos, as well as in the final episode of “Bernie Speaks With the Community,” Sanders speaks at length about his dream of reducing conflict between the two nations by building relationships between ordinary citizens. While being interviewed by a Russian man on a bus, he says he would “love” for young people to participate in exchange programs between the two cities."


Certainly the devils work....
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Response to billpolonsky (Reply #5)

Fri May 17, 2019, 05:59 PM

11. IKR!!

 


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Response to billpolonsky (Reply #5)

Fri May 17, 2019, 06:06 PM

13. Damn him! I can no longer support him

 




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Response to Autumn (Reply #13)

Fri May 17, 2019, 06:51 PM

25. Yup, yup... that's the last straw for me!!

 


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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #25)

Fri May 17, 2019, 06:53 PM

26. Gonna have to switch to Biden now

 

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Response to Autumn (Reply #26)

Fri May 17, 2019, 07:04 PM

32. LMFAO!! Let's not go crazy now!!

 




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Response to billpolonsky (Reply #5)

Fri May 17, 2019, 06:11 PM

14. Did you hear!?!? They sang This land is Your Land!1!1

 

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #14)

Fri May 17, 2019, 06:19 PM

18. And drank vodka while wearing towels at a spa.

 

Egads!
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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #14)

Fri May 17, 2019, 06:57 PM

29. OH GOD NO! Please tell me they didn't do that. He gave a Russian woman a small American flag!

 

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Response to Autumn (Reply #29)

Fri May 17, 2019, 08:57 PM

36. Game over!

 

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Response to billpolonsky (Reply #5)

Fri May 17, 2019, 06:18 PM

17. "...reducing conflict between the two nations by building relationships between ordinary citizens."

 

The horror!
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Response to SMC22307 (Reply #17)

Fri May 17, 2019, 06:58 PM

30. The horror is right!! Bernie needs to be investigated... pronto!!

 


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Response to Skya Rhen (Original post)

Fri May 17, 2019, 05:52 PM

6. Yeah fine.

 

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Response to Skya Rhen (Original post)

Fri May 17, 2019, 05:54 PM

7. Oh that's wonderful. I understand the project is still going on. Love this!

 

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Response to Skya Rhen (Original post)

Fri May 17, 2019, 06:00 PM

12. This is actually a pretty good read.

 

Thanks for the thread Skya Rhen.
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Response to Uncle Joe (Reply #12)

Fri May 17, 2019, 06:59 PM

31. Thought the same thing.

 


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Response to Skya Rhen (Original post)

Fri May 17, 2019, 06:16 PM

16. WOW !

 

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Response to Skya Rhen (Original post)

Fri May 17, 2019, 06:20 PM

20. There is a ton of material for oppo researchers in these tapes

 




Sanders’ opponents, though, will likely find much in the tapes to call outlandish. And in a campaign season in which Democrats are concerned about nothing more than defeating President Donald Trump, there’s plenty of material that Democratic voters might worry the Republican Party could spin into a 30-second negative ad.

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Response to Skya Rhen (Original post)

Fri May 17, 2019, 06:32 PM

22. The horror!

 

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Response to Skya Rhen (Original post)

Fri May 17, 2019, 06:35 PM

24. The GOP has large oppo file and would use this and other material if sanders was nominee

 

Trump had a two foot thick book of oppo research on Sanders http://www.newsweek.com/myths-cost-democrats-presidential-election-521044

They ignored the fact that Sanders had not yet faced a real campaign against him. Clinton was in the delicate position of dealing with a large portion of voters who treated Sanders more like the Messiah than just another candidate. She was playing the long game—attacking Sanders strongly enough to win, but gently enough to avoid alienating his supporters. Given her overwhelming support from communities of color—for example, about 70 percent of African-American voters cast their ballot for her—Clinton had a firewall that would be difficult for Sanders to breach....

So what would have happened when Sanders hit a real opponent, someone who did not care about alienating the young college voters in his base? I have seen the opposition book assembled by Republicans for Sanders, and it was brutal. The Republicans would have torn him apart. And while Sanders supporters might delude themselves into believing that they could have defended him against all of this, there is a name for politicians who play defense all the time: losers....

The Republicans had at least four other damning Sanders videos (I don’t know what they showed), and the opposition research folder was almost 2-feet thick. (The section calling him a communist with connections to Castro alone would have cost him Florida.) In other words, the belief that Sanders would have walked into the White House based on polls taken before anyone really attacked him is a delusion built on a scaffolding of political ignorance.

I am so glad that sanders is being vetted this cycle and will not be the nominee
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Response to Skya Rhen (Original post)

Fri May 17, 2019, 06:53 PM

27. to establish a "sister city" relationship

 

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Response to Skya Rhen (Original post)

Fri May 17, 2019, 06:55 PM

28. Thanks for posting my daughter's article. It always cool to see one on DU first, so I'll just add:

 

Bernie's mystery Soviet tapes revealed
Unseen by the public for three decades, a POLITICO reporter views hours of footage from his 1988 'honeymoon' to the USSR.

By HOLLY OTTERBEIN 05/17/2019 02:01 PM EDT
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Response to Skya Rhen (Original post)

Fri May 17, 2019, 07:04 PM

34. I like that Bernie resisted the Reagan crap.

 

Going against Reagan is a net positive.

It's too bad that people are trying to make this into a terrible, awful, not-very-good thing.

I get that some tender feelings may be hurt with a GOP attack ad. The GOP is going to make outlandish attack ads no matter who our candidate is.
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Response to Skya Rhen (Original post)

Fri May 17, 2019, 08:53 PM

35. Putin must be really pleased about this one.

 

Sister Cities? They’re actually a good idea. So good that there are many of them in the U.S.A.
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