Wed May 15, 2019, 03:13 PM

EffieBlack (14,213 posts)

Gillibrand on MSNBC saying the way to respond to abortion bills is to "lift up women's voices"

Seriously?

She sounds like she's giving a filler answer to a question she hasn't thought very much about.

"Lifting up women's voices" is not an effective strategy for fighting this all-out assault. It can be one tactic in a larger, comprehensive effort, but she needs to please stop giving that as an answer as if "lifting up women's voices" is a plan. And if it IS the plan, what exactly does it mean and how are you going to implement it?

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Gillibrand on MSNBC saying the way to respond to abortion bills is to "lift up women's voices" (Original post)	EffieBlack	May 2019	OP
I just turned her off, I could never vote for her for President	katmondoo	May 2019	#1
So, it wasn't just me who thought so?	EffieBlack	May 2019	#2
No, it isn't just you.	Polly Hennessey	May 2019	#3
You seem to have picked out one sentence. I believe this is the interview.	brooklynite	May 2019	#4
I watched the whole thing. What did offer besides "lifting up women's voices"	EffieBlack	May 2019	#6
What did the other candidates offer?	brooklynite	May 2019	#8
The other candidates weren't interviewed on the show today. Gillibrand was	EffieBlack	May 2019	#9
This message was self-deleted by its author	madaboutharry	May 2019	#5
Sorry, but WTH does that even mean in getting draconian legislation like this over	still_one	May 2019	#7
I used to work for a politician who occasionally got asked questions he hadn't come up with a plan	StarfishSaver	May 2019	#10
She was on specifically to talk about Alabama,	MontanaFarmer	May 2019	#11
21 candidates speaking to our issues and values	Hortensis	May 2019	#12

Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 03:16 PM

katmondoo (5,994 posts)

1. I just turned her off, I could never vote for her for President

What a really dumb answer.

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Response to katmondoo (Reply #1)

Wed May 15, 2019, 03:17 PM

EffieBlack (14,213 posts)

2. So, it wasn't just me who thought so?

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Wed May 15, 2019, 03:22 PM

Polly Hennessey (3,857 posts)

3. No, it isn't just you.

She is beginning to fade into the background. Ridiculous answer.

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Wed May 15, 2019, 03:28 PM

brooklynite (68,715 posts)

4. You seem to have picked out one sentence. I believe this is the interview.

Link to tweet

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #4)

Wed May 15, 2019, 03:39 PM

EffieBlack (14,213 posts)

6. I watched the whole thing. What did offer besides "lifting up women's voices"

or variations on the same?

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Wed May 15, 2019, 03:41 PM

brooklynite (68,715 posts)

8. What did the other candidates offer?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #8)

Wed May 15, 2019, 03:45 PM

EffieBlack (14,213 posts)

9. The other candidates weren't interviewed on the show today. Gillibrand was

That was her answer. It sucked.

But nice try at deflection but care to answer my question? You suggested that I cherrypicked her response. I'm simply asking what else she said that responded to that question.

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Wed May 15, 2019, 03:40 PM

still_one (76,964 posts)

7. Sorry, but WTH does that even mean in getting draconian legislation like this over

turned

If she was trying to say electing more women to public office then she just should have said that

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 03:50 PM

StarfishSaver (14,278 posts)

10. I used to work for a politician who occasionally got asked questions he hadn't come up with a plan

for yet. We knew whenever he said, "This is a serious problem and there are no easy answers. But we've just got to get it done!" he didn't have an answer. "We've got to get this done" became a euphemism among the staff for "I have no effing idea!"

That's exactly what Gillibrand's "We must lift up women's voices" sounds like. All that was missing was adding, "We've just got to get this done!"

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 04:01 PM

MontanaFarmer (514 posts)

11. She was on specifically to talk about Alabama,

yet she didn't even directly answer whether kay Ivey SHOULD veto the bill. Not would she but should she? Yikes. Gillibrand clearly wasn't ready for the interview. From a white house perspective, nothing to see here, IMO. Give me Harris, Warren or Klobuchar any day.

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Wed May 15, 2019, 04:09 PM

Hortensis (44,067 posts)

12. 21 candidates speaking to our issues and values

around the nation works for us. I don’t care for her or want want her for prez or being a nuisance, but as long as she’s saying the right things, fine.

Btw, last poll I saw had her dropped from 2% to 1%.

Guessing too low for Ocasio to bother damning herself over.

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