Seriously, Bernie?

Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 09:26 AM

comradebillyboy (8,505 posts)

1. He won't be needing a running mate of any sort.

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #1)

Mon May 6, 2019, 09:28 AM

still_one (76,877 posts)

4. not nice, but very funny

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Response to still_one (Reply #4)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:25 AM

MoonRiver (35,043 posts)

21. And true.

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #1)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:07 AM

NurseJackie (37,638 posts)

15. Preach!

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #15)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:42 AM

crazytown (7,277 posts)

31. Lucky he didn't say that in SC

or NC , or VA, or somewhere further south. It could have have effected his chances in the elections If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to crazytown (Reply #31)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:58 AM

NurseJackie (37,638 posts)

46. Good thing, eh?

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Response to crazytown (Reply #31)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:58 AM

George II (60,720 posts)

47. He only says things like that in "safe" states like Iowa and Vermont.

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Response to George II (Reply #47)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:02 AM

crazytown (7,277 posts)

49. And lucky it wasn't on TV either,

the ‘wrong’ people could be watching If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #1)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:45 AM

treestar (78,357 posts)

39. This

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #1)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:22 AM

yardwork (52,387 posts)

69. That's why it would be silly to consider it. See? Bernie is right.

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #1)

Mon May 6, 2019, 01:11 PM

brush (34,040 posts)

104. What is with him? Just a simple "of course" and he can't come up with it.

I'll just use an old term from the past—not ready for prime time. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #1)

Mon May 6, 2019, 04:08 PM

NastyRiffraff (12,448 posts)

126. Very true

Every time he opens his mouth he puts his foot into it. He'll be left with only his cultists; not nearly enough. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Reply #126)

Mon May 6, 2019, 06:48 PM

trueblue2007 (13,434 posts)

156. LIKE YOU SAID, puts in his foot ikn his mouth. And What he is saying about Biden is Sickening !!!

I AM SICK OF THIS STUFF !!!!!!!!! If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden This is the DU member formerly known as trueblue2007.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Reply #156)

Tue May 7, 2019, 11:05 AM

NastyRiffraff (12,448 posts)

172. Me too

After he promised to run on the issues, he's trashing Joe Biden, and he'll do the same to others if/when they surge. Particularly if it's a woman. Biden isn't my first choice, but he's a good man. If he wins the nomination I'll work my ass off to get him elected. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Reply #172)

Tue May 7, 2019, 08:08 PM

sheshe2 (70,612 posts)

180. I would say something, yet ya know....

After he promised to run on the issues, he's trashing Joe Biden, and he'll do the same to others if/when they surge. Particularly if it's a woman. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #1)

Tue May 7, 2019, 12:13 AM

rgbecker (4,391 posts)

167. Did you bother to listen to this interview?

https://contemptor.com/2019/05/05/bernie-sanders-its-premature-and-silly-to-consider-a-person-of-color-as-my-running-mate/ If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to rgbecker (Reply #167)

Tue May 7, 2019, 07:56 PM

StarfishSaver (14,278 posts)

177. I watched it

It's worse on the video than in print. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 09:26 AM

empedocles (11,903 posts)

2. Playing to some subgroups?

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 09:27 AM

still_one (76,877 posts)

3. Effie, glad to see you here!!!

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Response to still_one (Reply #3)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:49 AM

Anon-C (2,703 posts)

84. Seconded!

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 09:34 AM

LongtimeAZDem (4,398 posts)

5. While it was stupid to say, he might have had a point if he hadn't already said:

"I think we would look for somebody who is maybe not of the same gender that I am, and maybe somebody who might be a couple of years younger than me,” Sanders, who jumped into the race this week, said of a possible VP pick during an appearance on the "The Young Turks," a left-leaning web series. Sanders says he's leaning towards selecting a woman for VP if he's 2020 Dem nominee If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Reply #5)

Mon May 6, 2019, 09:39 AM

ehrnst (32,640 posts)

9. Every politician makes a gaffe. But not all get the pass that Senator Sanders does

even when he doubles down after being fact checked. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #9)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:29 AM

Chakaconcarne (1,360 posts)

23. Or on the flipside... whenever Bernie makes a gaffe he gets hammered for it...

Even on DU. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Chakaconcarne (Reply #23)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:31 AM

ehrnst (32,640 posts)

24. Not by Sanders supporters.

I find that even fact checking of Sanders is often called "a hit job" by many on DU. I think that Sanders sets that tone. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #9)

Mon May 6, 2019, 07:22 PM

rzemanfl (28,536 posts)

162. Bookmarking. n/t

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Reply #5)

Mon May 6, 2019, 09:41 AM

EffieBlack (14,213 posts)

10. In the same interview - right before he said this, he said he'd consider a woman

But when asked about a person of color, he went all “Humana Humana” and said it was premature and silly to consider it. https://m.&t=1795&feature=youtu.be But he did go to a big speech that MLK gave 56 years ago, so I guess this is no big deal. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #10)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:31 AM

highplainsdem (33,338 posts)

25. Agree. The contrast between the two answers, seconds apart, was really bad.

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #10)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:32 AM

ehrnst (32,640 posts)

27. +1000. (nt)

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #10)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:47 AM

WeekiWater (3,259 posts)

40. He has made an even stronger statement about picking a woman.

I quoted it below. You are clearly spot on to notice the difference. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #10)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:07 AM

pangaia (24,324 posts)

51. It is POSSIBLE, just possible, that Sanders felt several questions coming about a VP choice,

and didn't want to go any further with it, so he tried to shut it down. I don't know. I've seen him respond this way in the past about some issue... to answer a question or 2 and then want to not go farther with it. But, this SURE at least looked really bad, no doubt about it.. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to pangaia (Reply #51)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:28 AM

LongtimeAZDem (4,398 posts)

72. If so, he could have said, "Of course I would consider a woman of color, but we're getting

ahead of ourselves." But, he didn't. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #10)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:14 AM

Hortensis (44,029 posts)

62. Exactly. This question followed would he consider a woman,

it didn't come out of nowhere. Instead, after a strong affirmative for a woman VP, it generated a long pause followed by "silly" and "premature." I'm taking this as further evidence for my theory that he feels black support would injure him with large numbers of the white socially conservative populists whose support he must gain. He does also need to satisfy his liberal and farther-left supporters that they're not part of an essentially white movement, but that's all. He's really very bad at it. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #62)

Mon May 6, 2019, 12:33 PM

R B Garr (15,246 posts)

96. Nailed it again, Hortensis. That's what it does look like--

a calculated response meant to appeal to subgroups. Interesting his unequivocating and immediate support and compliments for Trump on NK, an immediate okay for a woman running mate, but an immediate shutdown and dismissal of an AA running mate. Not subtle at all. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden This is the DU member formerly known as R B Garr.

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Response to R B Garr (Reply #96)

Mon May 6, 2019, 12:54 PM

Hortensis (44,029 posts)

102. Also chumming for trumpsters using NK AND immigration,

adopting RW-compatible positions on both. He's 3 for 3 just in the past couple days. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #102)

Mon May 6, 2019, 04:53 PM

R B Garr (15,246 posts)

140. +1000, I've heard those appeals. too.

Very telling. Also the red meat about “establishment”. He should honor that pledge he signed. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden This is the DU member formerly known as R B Garr.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #10)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:55 AM

tymorial (3,326 posts)

87. He certainly does like to remind everyone of his presence

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #10)

Mon May 6, 2019, 05:11 PM

Metalmom (52 posts)

141. Thanks for posting that

Was looking for the complete video and wasn't having much luck. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Reply #5)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:48 AM

groundloop (9,710 posts)

41. Would have been simple enough to say 'too early to think about this......'

If his brain had been properly engaged he'd have simply said that's it's too early to be making predictions about a running mate but that he'd consider all options and base his decision on who would do the best job for working Americans. I'm really not sure what to make of this, but it doesn't sound good. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Reply #5)

Mon May 6, 2019, 05:18 PM

Metalmom (52 posts)

142. Watched the whole video posted below

He spoke very well of Elizabeth Warren, could it be he's already promised her the VP spot if he won the nomination? If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 09:36 AM

Gothmog (92,235 posts)

6. Tulsi Gabbard will be sanders' VP Is he gets the nomination

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #6)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:08 AM

NurseJackie (37,638 posts)

16. Lord.

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #6)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:28 AM

lunamagica (9,967 posts)

73. What a combo...Yuck

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Response to lunamagica (Reply #73)

Mon May 6, 2019, 12:42 PM

Gothmog (92,235 posts)

100. agreed

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #6)

Mon May 6, 2019, 04:12 PM

NastyRiffraff (12,448 posts)

128. Good thing he won't get the nomination!

But yeah, he and Tulsi kinda go together. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Reply #128)

Tue May 7, 2019, 11:40 AM

Gothmog (92,235 posts)

173. Agreed-

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 09:38 AM

MineralMan (136,676 posts)

8. Well, it wasn't going to be an issue, anyhow, but he

made it more certain not to be an issue with that statement. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 09:44 AM

George II (60,720 posts)

11. Pandering to the mostly white Iowa voters?

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Response to George II (Reply #11)

Mon May 6, 2019, 09:46 AM

EffieBlack (14,213 posts)

12. Maybe. But he hasn't figured out that everyone else can hear him, too?

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #12)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:10 AM

Clash City Rocker (2,018 posts)

54. Seriously. Politicians should assume that everything they say in public will make the news

This isn’t the first time Bernie has run for President. You think he would have learned by now. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to George II (Reply #11)

Mon May 6, 2019, 03:51 PM

progressoid (45,940 posts)

123. Yeah, because white people in Iowa vote for white people.

?zoom=2&resize=613%2C400 If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to progressoid (Reply #123)

Mon May 6, 2019, 04:05 PM

George II (60,720 posts)

125. What's your point?

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Response to George II (Reply #125)

Mon May 6, 2019, 04:09 PM

progressoid (45,940 posts)

127. What's your point about Iowa's mostly white voters?

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Response to progressoid (Reply #127)

Mon May 6, 2019, 04:13 PM

George II (60,720 posts)

129. He's in Iowa and says it's "silly" to consider a person of color as a running mate. Now yours?

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Response to George II (Reply #129)

Mon May 6, 2019, 04:32 PM

progressoid (45,940 posts)

135. And how does that inform your statement about white Iowa voters?

Is there something about white Iowa voters that you think this would pander to? Edit, I just watched the clip. He didn't say it was ""silly" to consider a person of color as a running mate." He said it was premature and silly to make that statement now. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to George II (Reply #11)

Mon May 6, 2019, 05:33 PM

emulatorloo (38,000 posts)

144. Except Iowa white caucus voters aren't racists. They are left liberal and progressives

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #144)

Mon May 6, 2019, 09:12 PM

SharonClark (7,555 posts)

165. Well, the Dems are, anyway.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 09:49 AM

lark (17,595 posts)

13. He was also going very negative on Biden again.

Flailing Bernie? Why does he sign papers not to attack Democratic seekers for the office, then turns around and does exactly that first thing? It just adds to my perception that he is not to be trusted. Hiring Paul Manaforts' partner in Ukraine to run his campaign was the first sin, not taking personal responsibility for his staffs sexual harassment and letting it continue without noticing, and now this. IF he wins the nomination, which I think is very unlikely, I will vote for him in the general. Hell, I might even work for him because he's not the Russian/Israeli minion drumpf is and I don't believe he's a crook either. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to lark (Reply #13)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:12 AM

NurseJackie (37,638 posts)

18. Trump would most EASILY defeat BS.

America will not elect a socialist. I promise you. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #18)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:10 AM

thesquanderer (10,876 posts)

55. re: "America will not elect a socialist. I promise you."

In 2007-8, lots of people--even Dems--were basically saying "America will not elect a black man. I promise you." You never know... If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #55)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:17 AM

NurseJackie (37,638 posts)

67. Yes I do.

You never know... Yes I do. The "black man" shared our nations values and had an optimistic and realistic view of the world and of politics. The socialist does not. Trump and the GOP will have an incredibly easy time driving that point home. BS's opponents have been very gentle with him, and I assure you that Trump and the GOP will not give him the same courtesy. America will not elect a socialist. I promise you. Fewer caucuses, thankfully, will present yet another hurdle for BS... while at the same time protecting the sanctity of the secret ballot and "re-infranchizing" all those who had been denied the ability to participate in the process. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #67)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:30 AM

lunamagica (9,967 posts)

74. + a million!

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #18)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:11 AM

Gothmog (92,235 posts)

60. If sanders is the nominee, trump will win 45+ states in the real world

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Response to lark (Reply #13)

Mon May 6, 2019, 09:34 PM

Cha (269,227 posts)

166. Time to expose BS' voting record..

Link to tweet If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:06 AM

The Velveteen Ocelot (92,607 posts)

14. He's not going to need a running mate, but

why is it "premature and silly" to at least consider a PoC for that position, which in his case is totally theoretical anyhow? Considering it doesn't mean he'd have to do it, especially since he won't have to consider anybody. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden This is the DU member formerly known as The Velveteen Ocelot.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #14)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:29 AM

George II (60,720 posts)

22. Forget premature, why "silly" as though that's out of the question.

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Response to George II (Reply #22)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:10 AM

The Velveteen Ocelot (92,607 posts)

53. I interpreted it as meaning it's silly to decide prematurely, but maybe that was too generous.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #53)

Mon May 6, 2019, 12:27 PM

NurseJackie (37,638 posts)

94. You might be right, but I'd be more comfortable with a candidate who can think on their feet...

You might be right, but I'd be more comfortable with a candidate who can think on their feet. We need someone who's prepared; a candidate who can anticipate questions; a candidate who doesn't just blurt out the first thing that pops into his (or her) head; a candidate who has internal filters and who can be polite and diplomatic (even when annoyed). Candidates who pop-off, or who lose their cool, or who can't think about what they're about to say BEFORE they say it, do not give me confidence in their ability to be an effective leader. He (or she) needs to be more refined and thoughtful. I want to see someone demonstrate that he (or she) has the temperament to be president. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #94)

Mon May 6, 2019, 12:29 PM

The Velveteen Ocelot (92,607 posts)

95. Absolutely.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #94)

Mon May 6, 2019, 01:15 PM

KitSileya (4,035 posts)

105. As we have seen, Senator Sanders has trouble in interviews where he cannot vet the qs

As his own local papers have amply documented, Senator Sanders has a long history of refusing interviews where he is not allowed to vet the questions beforehand. When he has to let himself be interviewed anyway, like on the national stage, he has trouble answering, like the infamous NYDN interview and more recently at the DC town hall and She the People forum. Other times he's simply lost his temper and walked out (there's plenty of clips of this on youtube, I won't link because it might get my post hidden.) If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:10 AM

dlk (7,906 posts)

17. When People Tell You Who They Are...

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Response to dlk (Reply #17)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:15 AM

NurseJackie (37,638 posts)

19. I do. I have. I did. I will. (Looks like others are doing that too.)

I believe that as a party, and as a nation, we can do better than choosing a socialist who would be easily defeated by Trump. We have so many talented and vibrant and energetic candidates... we have candidates with vigor and stamina and realistic ideas... we have candidates who are much better prepared, and who have the vision and demeanor to lead our nation and to represent our nation on the world stage. I'm looking for someone who commands respect from our adversaries. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Mon May 6, 2019, 12:59 PM

dlk (7,906 posts)

103. Agreed

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Mon May 6, 2019, 10:23 AM

grantcart (51,198 posts)

20. Well no not seriously, more of a gadfly really.

Anybody who is surprised at this must have missed his very earnest effort to primary President Obama. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to grantcart (Reply #20)

Mon May 6, 2019, 01:15 PM

NurseJackie (37,638 posts)

106. I noticed. It was offensive.

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #106)

Mon May 6, 2019, 02:08 PM

grantcart (51,198 posts)

111. You are being polite

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to grantcart (Reply #111)

Mon May 6, 2019, 03:06 PM

NurseJackie (37,638 posts)

118. I'm forcing myself.

It's very difficult. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #118)

Mon May 6, 2019, 05:55 PM

grantcart (51,198 posts)

148. See I thought you were self medicating

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Response to grantcart (Reply #148)

Mon May 6, 2019, 05:57 PM

NurseJackie (37,638 posts)

149. That's an interesting idea. I'll give it some serious thought.

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:31 AM

redgreenandblue (2,052 posts)

26. Ok, I actually watched the clip. The framing is pretty dishonest.

He said it was premature and silly to talk about running mates. He is right of course If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to redgreenandblue (Reply #26)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:36 AM

yaesu (5,823 posts)

28. MSM will be doing all they can to get there guy in & its not Bernie. Yes, they are out to get him

& all progressives with the help of russia, the GOP & threads that spread it. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to yaesu (Reply #28)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:44 AM

emulatorloo (38,000 posts)

36. The GRU prompted Senator Sanders in 2016 in order to help Trump win.

As to the MSM, they seem hell bent on trying to destroy Biden Of course YMMV If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to redgreenandblue (Reply #26)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:51 AM

treestar (78,357 posts)

42. He said he would consider a woman

then the interviewer said "person of color?" and then he said it was premature. Right after the question about women, which he answered that he would consider a woman. Maybe it was a second thought that applied to women, too, and he seemed a bit impatient with the question. But then when running for POTUS, every word out of your mouth is parsed - better to repeat that he'd consider it, rather than making it look like a different answer. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to treestar (Reply #42)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:22 AM

NurseJackie (37,638 posts)

68. There's a very easy response to hypothetical questions like that, but it escaped him.

Personally, I think we can do better. If he's having difficulty "thinking on his feet" and coming up with decent responses to questions like that... then I have to wonder if that's a something that everyone should be concerned about. Not every situation can be controlled and scripted. Simply reading from (or reciting lines from) one of his three (?) stump speeches leaves much to be desired. No candidate should be struggling with an EASY question like that. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #68)

Mon May 6, 2019, 04:16 PM

NYC Liberal (19,210 posts)

132. The response is absurdly obvious and easy:

“I think there are many fantastic Democrats from all different backgrounds who would make excellent running mates. When the time comes and I’m fortunate enough to be making that decision, I’ll pick the person who best represents the American people and can help us win in 2020.” Easy. If you can think on your feet. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Mon May 6, 2019, 04:44 PM

NurseJackie (37,638 posts)

138. I think that's an important and necessary quality for a US president to have.

Easy. If you can think on your feet. I think that's an important and necessary quality for a US president to have. It's a quality that I haven't seen BS demonstrate to my satisfaction. I believe that we need better and that we can do better. PS: Your sample answer was right on target. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to NYC Liberal (Reply #132)

Tue May 7, 2019, 01:36 AM

Cha (269,227 posts)

170. Well said.

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to redgreenandblue (Reply #26)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:38 AM

EffieBlack (14,213 posts)

78. Everyone can see the clip and the "framing" is dead on

If he thinks it’s “silly” to be discussing running mates, he shouldn't have discussed it at all. If he didn’t think it was “silly” to promise to consider a woman, he should have answered the question that immediately followed about a person of color. Instead, he eagerly answered th3 question about a female running mate, but when asked about a black or brown one, he attacked the interviewer for asking a “silly” question - when the only difference between the question he answered and the one he didn’t was racial. BERNIE framed this, not I. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to redgreenandblue (Reply #26)

Mon May 6, 2019, 08:21 PM

Celerity (17,573 posts)

164. the framing is correct, I watched it, and he fucked up badly

Terrible gaffe. I am usually suspicious of a bash Bernie post, but this one is legit. I cannot wait till he drops up. He has almost no chance at the nomination and even less of one in terms of beating Trump. Bernie is far too great a risk to support. If he is smashed in most of the primaries leading up to and including Super Tuesday, and truly has no real chance at being nominated, YET plows on and goes even more scorched earth, then it will be clear he is a wrecker. Just because he may have the funds to fight all the way to the last primary does NOT mean he should. For the good of the nation he will need to bow out and then campaign HARD for the true nominee, AND demand to ALL his supporters to support our nominee. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to redgreenandblue (Reply #26)

Tue May 7, 2019, 08:26 PM

pnwmom (104,071 posts)

183. I did, too. And his comment sounded dismissive,

which, unfortunately, fits with a negative impression many already had. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:37 AM

Blue Owl (32,788 posts)

29. He's got Jill Stein on the speed dial, I bet...

n/t If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Blue Owl (Reply #29)

Mon May 6, 2019, 01:18 PM

NurseJackie (37,638 posts)

107. Her most vocal and enthusiastic supporters, at least.

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Response to Blue Owl (Reply #29)

Mon May 6, 2019, 02:28 PM

NYMinute (3,256 posts)

114. There is also Susan Sarandon nt

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Mon May 6, 2019, 10:41 AM

hlthe2b (84,201 posts)

30. Classic "Open mouth, insert foot"... That one is going to 'hurt'

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:42 AM

emulatorloo (38,000 posts)

32. Bookmarking

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #32)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:52 AM

LongtimeAZDem (4,398 posts)

86. Archiving

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:42 AM

Mr.Bill (11,476 posts)

33. Correct answer to this question by any candidate is

"I have an extensive list of who I am considering for my VP and I can assure you it is a very diverse list." If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #33)

Mon May 6, 2019, 02:29 PM

NYMinute (3,256 posts)

116. Is your last name Clinton?

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Response to NYMinute (Reply #116)

Mon May 6, 2019, 03:54 PM

Mr.Bill (11,476 posts)

124. Am I supposed to be insulted by that?

Is being like Clinton an insult here now? Perhaps I misunderstand? If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #124)

Mon May 6, 2019, 06:59 PM

trueblue2007 (13,434 posts)

157. no!!!! NO INSULT TO LIKE HILLARY CLINTON. We need to remember she's GREAT

I wish Bernie would have remembered that instead of his infernal bashing on her. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden This is the DU member formerly known as trueblue2007.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Reply #157)

Tue May 7, 2019, 07:54 PM

NYMinute (3,256 posts)

176. I am a Hillary and Bill supporter

Please see my response to Mr. Bill. Post #175 If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Tue May 7, 2019, 07:54 PM

NYMinute (3,256 posts)

175. Sir, I PMed you and explained

Your suggestion for candidates was so astute and diplomatic, and because your ID is Mr.Bill, I jokingly said if you are Bill Clinton who is a masterful politician. It was actually a compliment. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to NYMinute (Reply #175)

Tue May 7, 2019, 07:59 PM

Mr.Bill (11,476 posts)

178. And I answered your PM.

Did you receive my answer? If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #178)

Tue May 7, 2019, 08:21 PM

NYMinute (3,256 posts)

181. Yes, I did

Thank you for understanding. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to NYMinute (Reply #116)

Tue May 7, 2019, 07:51 PM

George II (60,720 posts)

174. .

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #33)

Mon May 6, 2019, 07:05 PM

Honeycombe8 (37,648 posts)

159. Good answer. nt

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:43 AM

Tiggeroshii (11,088 posts)

34. Awful!! Except he didn't say that

He said it is premature to make that decision right now. Which is true. No shame in the lies? If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #34)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:45 AM

jalan48 (11,515 posts)

37. Fox News does it daily. Apparently it works.

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #37)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:45 AM

Tiggeroshii (11,088 posts)

38. It does

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to Tiggeroshii (Reply #34)

Mon May 6, 2019, 04:17 PM

NastyRiffraff (12,448 posts)

133. Then why didn't he say the same about a woman VP?

Not that it matters. He won't win the nomination anyway, so he's actually right about not speculating about a running mate. Still, he did say he'd consider a woman, so there seems to be a contradiction. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:44 AM

WeekiWater (3,259 posts)

35. Compare that with:"I think we would look for somebody who is maybe not of the same gender that I am"

That was his answer when asked "What are the attributes you would look for in a vice president?” If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to WeekiWater (Reply #35)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:08 AM

The Velveteen Ocelot (92,607 posts)

52. "Maybe not of the same gender that I am"?

Could he possibly be more evasive? If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden This is the DU member formerly known as The Velveteen Ocelot.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #52)

Mon May 6, 2019, 07:07 PM

Honeycombe8 (37,648 posts)

160. LOL!

That was funny. As in..."guess which gender I'm speaking about!" No criticism of you or the other poster. It's just that that WOULD be a typical vague political answer by a politician. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:52 AM

KPN (11,817 posts)

43. I have to agree that that was dumb on Bernie's part. He could have said the same about con-

sidering a woman, but didn't. I love Bernie, but just don't see him as being able to pull this off or actually being the right person right now (right now being 2020). If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:53 AM

djacq (1,472 posts)

44. I get "Premature" but "SILLY"?!

Hey Bernie Bros! Senator Sanders most likely will not get the Black Vote. He certainly will not get mine during the Primaries. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to djacq (Reply #44)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:36 AM

thesquanderer (10,876 posts)

77. Silly *because* it's premature. Obvious from his phrasing, if you listen to it. (n/t)

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:58 AM

ehrnst (32,640 posts)

45. "Silly." That's a condescending way to dismiss a reporter asking a question

He's deployed that dis before. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #45)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:11 AM

NurseJackie (37,638 posts)

59. Yep... I expect more from someone who's seeking the highest office in the land.

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:01 AM

calimary (61,673 posts)

48. That's something you probably won't have to worry about, Bernie.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:04 AM

pdsimdars (6,007 posts)

50. Lots of under the surface animosity for Bernie, when HE has the progressive record for 40 years

Talk about tribalism, the GOP has nothing on the left in that regard. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to pdsimdars (Reply #50)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:11 AM

bloom (11,620 posts)

57. That's funny - because it is BS fans who strike me as tribal

most other people are not nearly as attached to their favorite candidates. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Mon May 6, 2019, 11:14 AM

ehrnst (32,640 posts)

61. +1000. The accusations of "hit piece" when he's fact checked are

certainly indicative of this kind of response. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to pdsimdars (Reply #50)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:50 AM

BannonsLiver (11,790 posts)

85. All of it richly deserved.

And earned by Bernie. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #85)

Mon May 6, 2019, 01:38 PM

pdsimdars (6,007 posts)

110. That's what all the tribalist haters say. Let your thoughts and words tell who you are.

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to pdsimdars (Reply #110)

Mon May 6, 2019, 02:16 PM

BannonsLiver (11,790 posts)

113. Yes, I'm sure you've believe all of that.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #113)

Mon May 6, 2019, 03:24 PM

pdsimdars (6,007 posts)

120. All you have to do is have the slighest bit of objectivity and you can see they're mirror images

But for those who are unable to have unbiased, rational thought, they revert to clever quips. . . Whether on the left or the right, non thinking tribalism is tribalism, period. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Mon May 6, 2019, 06:05 PM

BannonsLiver (11,790 posts)

150. I'm sorry you feel that way.

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #150)

Mon May 6, 2019, 06:30 PM

pdsimdars (6,007 posts)

154. Geez and I feel sorry that you think that way.

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Response to pdsimdars (Reply #154)

Mon May 6, 2019, 06:41 PM

BannonsLiver (11,790 posts)

155. Thanks for your concern.

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Response to pdsimdars (Reply #50)

Mon May 6, 2019, 08:14 PM

betsuni (15,780 posts)

163. ...

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:10 AM

Historic NY (33,956 posts)

56. What no 'my revolution' prospects......

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Mon May 6, 2019, 11:11 AM

saidsimplesimon (7,688 posts)

58. I'm always pleased when

I see a diary with your name. You often report things that sting a bit on first glance. Upon reflection about your comment, I can most often "let go" of my "white priviledge" and see the world from a prism of color. I know "seriously" it took me two paragraphs when only your one word was needed. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided This is the DU member formerly known as saidsimplesimon.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:15 AM

Madtown (39 posts)

63. Totally out of context and not correct

if you listened to the interview that is not what he' said https://contemptor.com/2019/05/05/bernie-sanders-its-premature-and-silly-to-consider-a-person-of-color-as-my-running-mate/ If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to Fla Dem (Reply #90)

Mon May 6, 2019, 12:39 PM

LongtimeAZDem (4,398 posts)

98. No, he says, "I think it's premature. It would be silly to make that, uh, statement right now."

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:15 AM

notinkansas (632 posts)

64. Really??

Shame on you for spreading misinformation. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to notinkansas (Reply #64)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:47 AM

mopinko (59,045 posts)

83. really yourself. are you calling effie a liar, or a troll, or what?

it's bernie's own damn tweet. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to Fla Dem (Reply #88)

Mon May 6, 2019, 12:41 PM

LongtimeAZDem (4,398 posts)

99. Yes, he did

He said, "I think it's premature. It would be silly to make that, uh, statement right now." If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:17 AM

PatrickforO (12,322 posts)

65. Well...an unfortunate statement.

My take on it, though, is that he was telling the media head that it's still early days and way too soon to even be considering anybody as a running mate. We haven't even started the actual primaries/caucuses yet. That's my take on it. I don't think he's saying what is being read into it - that he would consider a woman but not a person of color as his running mate. That just isn't what he said. And, note, I'm not supporting Bernie this time around, but lots of people on here think the worst of him no matter what he says. This example you're forwarding is a prime example of that. It could get all bent out of shape, and go viral so that people purposely get the wrong idea - oh, Bernie's racist. Because he's not. He has his problems, and certainly he is coming across this time as a sort of old grouch/curmudgeon. But he's not racist, and I'm completely confident that he would consider both a woman and/or a person of color as his running mate. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden This is the DU member formerly known as PatrickforO.

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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #65)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:40 AM

The Velveteen Ocelot (92,607 posts)

79. His response suggests, at best, that he doesn't think well on his feet.

All he had to do was say something to the effect of, "It's too early in the process now to make that decision, but if I am the nominee I will choose a running mate from a diverse list that will definitely include women and people of color." Instead, using the word "silly" made it sound either like he thought the reporter was rude or that choosing a PoC as a running mate was silly. I have to assume that he's not actually a racist, but if he keeps making clumsy remarks like that he makes it too easy for people to wonder whether he is. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden This is the DU member formerly known as The Velveteen Ocelot.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #79)

Mon May 6, 2019, 12:12 PM

comradebillyboy (8,505 posts)

89. He dosen't seem capable of thinking on his feet.

Probably why he avoids free form press conferences where he can be questioned. He only wants the press to report his talking points without any probing questions. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #79)

Mon May 6, 2019, 01:22 PM

PatrickforO (12,322 posts)

108. Agreed. He could have handled the question much better. n/t

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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #65)

Mon May 6, 2019, 02:10 PM

grantcart (51,198 posts)

112. And yet he seriously wanted to primary the first AA President.

I don't think he is a racist just insensitive and lacking in self awareness. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to grantcart (Reply #112)

Mon May 6, 2019, 02:29 PM

PatrickforO (12,322 posts)

115. Yeah, I can agree with that.

Racism is very tricky though. I'm a white guy in his 60s who was raised in suburbia. So, by definition, I've enjoyed white male privilege all my life - which you start recognizing once you get over the indignant 'no I don't!' first response to the concept. I mean, I can sit here all day on this thread and tell everyone who will listen that I'm not racist, but let's think about a couple things: First, no white man can ever know what it is like to be a person of color or a woman. Second, our society has institutional racism so 'baked in' that it is very difficult for me to claim that I'm not when I have enjoyed those privileges accorded white males. Here's an example: Those who follow my posts on here, or even if you have casually read a few, know that I'm absolutely furious about the concentration camps the Trump administration has set up on our southern border. I'm incensed that children are ripped from their parents. I'm horrified that ICE and CBP have been so cavalier about tracking them to reunite them to their parents. I know you've read incendiary language from me about how there MUST be trials to hold these people accountable. But, in the context of comments on these threads, it has come to my attention that we've done the same things to African-Americans held in slavery, and definitely to native Americans. Their concentration camps are called 'reservations,' and the concentration camps for blacks are called 'prison industries.' I think this is the issue with race and the concept of racism if you are white and male. It is difficult, even if you are relatively 'enlightened,' to not hold in the back of your mind the horrific crimes committed by your own ancestors (a significant number of mine were slaveholders, and certainly some fought in the so-called 'Indian wars.'). My people moved across this land with the rest of the white settlers under the banner of Manifest Destiny. Do I feel bad about that? Yes. Am I afraid of retribution when white people are no longer the majority? Not as much as some, but yes. Do I know what to do about it? No. Oh, sure, I can sit here and pontificate on the need for rampant change in our police forces nationwide, reform of the prisons, better schools and so on, but I fear that isn't enough. And, I can tell you that I've worked hard all my life. My body is somewhat ruined from hard physical labor, which I have had to do for perhaps a decade and a half all told of the forty-plus years I've worked. I have a middle class lifestyle I'm trying to hold on to. I'm deeply afraid that the Republican tax cuts are going to cause my Social Security to melt away, or that a massive recession with austerity because the GOP has put us in a debt crisis will gobble up any pension I might get. And I'm scared Medicare will be cut to pieces by the time I get there and I will get sick and the capitalists will take everything, leaving my family destitute. This is a fucking cruel country even if you are a white male. I had a friend who used to say America is a great place unless you're old, poor, sick or different. Now I am three of those, and only a few checks away from the fourth. So, I like Bernie on the issues because they speak to my own needs. But I have never had to school my kids or my grandkids in how to survive if stopped by the police. The bottom line is we have to change our whole approach to humanity, to how we organize ourselves. We have to stop organizing around human greed and start organizing around human need. Or else we're going to end up going extinct as a species. There is only one earth, and we're all passengers on it. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden This is the DU member formerly known as PatrickforO.

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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #115)

Tue May 7, 2019, 12:49 AM

The Velveteen Ocelot (92,607 posts)

168. Bravo! Thanks for that. Excellent insights.

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden This is the DU member formerly known as The Velveteen Ocelot.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:17 AM

redstatebluegirl (11,281 posts)

66. He isn't going to need a running mate.

He won't survive the primaries. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:22 AM

DownriverDem (4,737 posts)

70. Forget Bernie

Biden/Harris is the winning ticket! If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:25 AM

lunamagica (9,967 posts)

71. He is right. It is silly. He won't get that far

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:31 AM

peggysue2 (7,649 posts)

75. Wow!

The Senator from Vermont spent the weekend putting his foot in his mouth. His comments about not faulting Trump on the NK issue was a doozy. Now this. But please, Senator, continue digging that hole. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:32 AM

JI7 (83,355 posts)

76. it probably just means one shouldn't assume he would be nominee

If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to JI7 (Reply #76)

Mon May 6, 2019, 12:52 PM

Hassin Bin Sober (23,810 posts)

101. That's exactly what it was.

He answered one question and, when the question was expanded, he shut the guy down because it’s silly speculation at this point. More manufactured outrage from anonymous twitter. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #101)

Mon May 6, 2019, 06:11 PM

Autumn (40,111 posts)

151. If Bernie has said, I am going to consider a person of color as my running mate,

I am going to consider a woman as my running mate, I am going to consider a white old man as my running mate, I am going to consider an alien as my running mate, I am going to consider a dog as my running mate. The reaction would have been the very same. If he hadn't said It's 'Premature' and 'Silly' and instead said it's Late and wise, it's raining and sunny, it's black and blue the reaction would have been the same. Anything Bernie says does, or thinks gets the same reaction. Some of the comments to that tweet are brutal and calling out the tweet as bullshit. Link to tweet ? If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:40 AM

Perseus (4,341 posts)

80. Wow...He really put his foot in his mouth with this one

I decided to see/hear the interview to make sure his statement was not being taken out of context, but he did not flinch when asked about a woman as a running mate, then he did when asked about a person of color...the right answer Bernie should have been "of course, we have plenty of dedicated and very good people running for office, as well as in the party, I have many choices, race and gender should not be a consideration."...but you didn't Bernie, this one, I think, is going to byte you hard, your reaction to the question, even before you opened your mouth was very telling, your body language was one as if someone had poured a bucket of cold water on your back. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to Perseus (Reply #80)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:42 AM

EffieBlack (14,213 posts)

81. Exactly!

But as usual, we’re being treated to a lot of “you’re taking him out of context” and “that’s not what he meant” gaslighting, when the videotape is clear as it can be ... same ol’ same ol’ If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #81)

Mon May 6, 2019, 12:26 PM

Perseus (4,341 posts)

93. People must watch the video

He actually jumped when he was asked about a person of color as running mate, body language tells a lot about a person because it happens automatically, even before they open their mouths. There is nothing "out of context here", you give your thumbs up for a woman running mate, but your body language gives out your feelings even before you open your mouth, then you say it is premature and silly? How come it wasn't premature and silly for the woman? Yeap, you are right...no doubt this time. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to Perseus (Reply #93)

Mon May 6, 2019, 03:12 PM

Hortensis (44,029 posts)

119. Yes, but were it and that pause deliberate?

I believe his rigid thinking doesn't allow him to be smart compared to others in his position, but I don't think he's inexperienced or brain dead either. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #81)

Mon May 6, 2019, 05:39 PM

mcar (35,695 posts)

146. It never changes, Effie

One would think people learned from 2016. They didn't, apparently. If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:45 AM

Eliot Rosewater (26,832 posts)

82. He is bound and determined to make CERTAIN no Democrat sits in the WH...

THAT is his agenda. So SICK OF HIS SHIT like his ATTACKING Joe Biden When will people get it? If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 12:21 PM

BigOleDummy (1,350 posts)