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Thu Oct 29, 2015, 01:41 PM

Eliot Spitzer Sharply Criticizes Hillary Clinton on 2007 Immigration Stance.

'Mr. Spitzer acknowledged that he is supporting one of Mrs. Clinton’s opponents, Martin O’Malley, and dates the candidate’s deputy campaign manager, Lis Smith. But he insisted that the moment was revealing overall about Mrs. Clinton.' !!!

“It was a politically tough issue,” Mr. Spitzer said. “It didn’t poll well, but there was no ambiguity about what was right. And if you look at where we are now as a nation on this very issue It’s the law of the land, I think, in California, a slew of states, and it’s not controversial because people know it’s right and it works. But at the time it was controversial. And because it was controversial she hemmed and she hawed.”

He added: “This goes to the core of where are you on immigrants rights? And the president – not then the president, Senator Obama, now the president – gave an unambiguous answer: yes. The Clinton folks, as no doubt you remember, thought the issue was the problem. I thought the issue was a metaphor for her vacillation.” . .

She is “intensely smart. Clever. Glib. A joy to be with,” Mr. Spitzer told Mr. Axelrod. “None of that has to do with whether or not she’s the best Democratic candidate for president.”

He suggested that Mr. O’Malley, the former Maryland governor, will have an opportunity to make his case to voters. Mr. O’Malley has made criticism of Mrs. Clinton over hedging on driver’s licenses in the 2007-8 presidential campaign a key part of his message.

“O’Malley has been there on the tough issues and gotten it done and I think he’ll make that case,” Mr. Spitzer said.

When Mr. Axelrod raised the fact that Mr. Spitzer dates Ms. Smith, he replied, “Yes, everybody knows that. Yes. Correct. I am biased and overtly so. And proudly so. I never thought that being biased was a negative thing as long as you had a foundation for it, if it’s based on fact.”

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/10/29/eliot-spitzer-sharply-criticizes-hillary-clinton-on-2007-immigration-stance/

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2015, 01:53 PM

1. What year are we running in?

Seems the underdogs are snarling hoping the leader barks back.
Hillary is too smart for that.

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 29, 2015, 01:56 PM

2. Martin O'Malley does not SNARL,

and surely doesn't hope anyone barks at him. Please note that, by reading the contents of this Group's postings.

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Response to elleng (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 29, 2015, 03:06 PM

7. No--he gets his deputy campaign manager's "boyfriend" to do the snarling for him.

How soon we forget...!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_Alexandra_Dupr%C3%A9

I personally believe that O'Malley is far too smart to touch this story with a ten foot pole. That's why his campaign is using distant surrogates to put it out there--so there's no splashback. That is a smart strategy, because this efffort is not a winner.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2015, 02:05 PM

3. I wonder if that explains why she hasn't spoken on H-1B Visa program since then...

 

About 2007 when she last spoke on this topic... Maybe she's afraid the media will play "gotcha" again with her on this topic since this was part of the more recent immigration bill?

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2015, 02:43 PM

4. He's DATING O'Malley's deputy campaign manager...and he wants us to believe he's sincere?

That should be the headline, so people don't waste their time.


And contrary to Spitzer's assertion, "everybody" did not know this. They do now, though, and as a consequence, they'll discount his opinions, now that they know they aren't bias free. And his bias isn't based on FACT, it's based on something else ENTIRELY....and we know what that is.

Gawd, he's sunk rather low, hasn't he?

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Response to MADem (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 29, 2015, 02:45 PM

5. because the people you date determine all of your opinions, right?

SMART!


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Response to elleng (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 29, 2015, 03:00 PM

6. Given his personal history, it's a very reasonable assumption to make.

This is a guy who

1. Violated his oaths of office;
2. Crossed state lines in commission of a felony;
3. Spent a FORTUNE in government money to rent hotel roomS;
4. Hired prostitutes;
5. Took "business trips" on government funds to meet up with said prostitutes;
6. And did all this on MULTIPLE occasions.
7. Oh, and then he cried and whined and said he was "addicted to sex."

Anyone who would behave so recklessly and stupidly just to get a little swerve on might well be willing to say anything to keep getting busy. His track record is simply not his ally with regard to this matter. To try to pretend that he's speaking solely from a high-minded perspective is just not believable.

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