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elleng

(130,862 posts)
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 01:22 AM Jun 2015

O'Malley is better than Hillary Clinton. Here's why.

Mr. O'Malley, unlike Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush, isn't linked to perpetual scandal and criticism, nor is he beholden to foreign donors, investment banks or a family surname. He rightfully stated that the presidency isn't "some crown to be passed between two families" and compared to Ms. Clinton, Mr. O'Malley offers a genuinely progressive outlook on American politics. When both candidates are analyzed, it's apparent that one caters to poll-driven centrism while the other is far more confident in a progressive vision for America.

While Ms. Clinton voted for the invasion of Iraq, Mr. O'Malley has been a longtime critic of the Iraq War. As governor, Mr. O'Malley sponsored and signed a same-sex marriage bill when Hillary Clinton was overtly against gay marriage. He also signed a marijuana decriminalization bill, while Ms. Clinton has said she was against the decriminalization of marijuana. Martin O'Malley wants to bring back Glass-Steagall, called the Trans-Pacific Partnership a "bad trade deal," and urged the Senate in 2014 to reject the Keystone XL pipeline. Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, once referred to TPP as "the gold standard in trade agreements," and she still hasn't taken a stance on the Keystone XL pipeline. . .

More than six in 10 voters (62 percent) said that Ms. Clinton has "strong leadership qualities." In that same sample, though, less than four in 10 (38 percent) said she was honest and trustworthy. A majority (54 percent) said she is not honest and trustworthy, including 61 percent of independents.

With Martin O'Malley, however, leadership skills don't translate to a majority of people questioning his honesty. This will be important when compared to Jeb Bush or a future GOP challenger.

Martin O'Malley represents an honest, bold and capable alternative to Hillary Clinton and a worthwhile challenger to Mr. Bush or any other GOP candidate. He isn't a magnet for perpetual scandal, and he isn't beholden to special interests or vapid centrism. These competitive advantages over Clinton will help him defeat any Republican for important battleground states in 2016.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bs-ed-choose-omalley-20150529-story.html

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O'Malley is better than Hillary Clinton. Here's why. (Original Post) elleng Jun 2015 OP
I love him too... Kalidurga Jun 2015 #1
DITTO! elleng Jun 2015 #4
K&R. n/t FSogol Jun 2015 #2
This candidate is clear as day for me JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #3
I agree, Gen, and HOPE/PRAY enough people get to SEE it! elleng Jun 2015 #5
I am watching and heaven05 Jun 2015 #7
I have a serious empathy chip heaven JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #9
snails are good, I heard, yuk escargot heaven05 Jun 2015 #10
HRC heaven05 Jun 2015 #6
Yes. elleng Jun 2015 #8
O'Malley has not been a long time critic of the war. He was ALWAYS a critic. n/t Raine1967 Jun 2015 #11
Wow. That is great. lovemydog Jun 2015 #12
I will try to find that information, however take a listen to this: Raine1967 Jun 2015 #13
Thank you! lovemydog Jun 2015 #14

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
1. I love him too...
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 03:20 AM
Jun 2015

I have never had such hard choices in candidates before. It was always which one do I think will cause the least amount of damage. Now there are two that I think will do some actual good and it won't be a hold my nose situation with either of them.

JustAnotherGen

(31,810 posts)
3. This candidate is clear as day for me
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 10:09 AM
Jun 2015

And Clinton's 'star power be damned' -

I think he has a better chance of unaffiliated/independent voters who want to see someone who has DONE something. Who takes principled stands- and sticks with them!

He doesn't operate from polls - he operates from an internal barometer that knows right from wrong.

And when he has been wrong - he admits it. No buts, no ifs, no because . . .

Going to Baltimore was brave.

Sometimes - I'm sorry means the world.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
7. I am watching and
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 06:31 PM
Jun 2015

looking at his record, a second time....we'll just have to see. Maybe I was a little brash about his mayoral stint, but something just doesn't sit right with me there I feel it's not unjustified. And sorry is an important word if meant sincerely.

JustAnotherGen

(31,810 posts)
9. I have a serious empathy chip heaven
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 07:16 PM
Jun 2015

If I'm wrong - I will eat a snail. I just think -


He doesn't want to hurt YOU. Or my nephews. Or even The Gio for marrying me.

He just wants to help - and that infant mortality rate, wage, and median income - those things hit the black community in a big and good way.

If that had been Bill Clinton 20 years ago - I don't think he would have gone and rubbed shoulders. He didn't have that grit.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
10. snails are good, I heard, yuk escargot
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 07:54 PM
Jun 2015

but guess what I'll hold you to it, maybe. Bill Clinton has, on years pf reflection on the consequence of his policies, especially in the black community, prisons for profit, "welfare reform", the repeal of the Glass-Steagall and consequent vulture capitalists stealing many many homes and destroying many many black families hope for stability has tainted and tarnished, forever, his legacy. Seems HRC wants to continue that legacy.

Like I said, still early for O'Malley and Bernie. I will be pulling my cards closer to my chest. No winners yet, but we do have two front runners, regardless of polls, in my book. backatcha

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
6. HRC
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 06:28 PM
Jun 2015

is waaaayyy down the list on trustworthiness, on her voting record, her extreme coziness with the bankers and corporations, just about everything that counts with progressive, liberal americans. She's a politician first, promise the world and when ....well we all know that song and dance. If she win the primary I will be forced to vote for her, but that's as far as it goes with me.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
12. Wow. That is great.
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 04:52 AM
Jun 2015

That actually means a lot to me.

Does anyone have anything more specific? Where was he during the Iraq War Resolution?

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
13. I will try to find that information, however take a listen to this:
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 07:50 AM
Jun 2015
http://www.c-span.org/video/?174794-1/democratic-radio-response


The transcript is incomplete, so it is worth the 4 minute listen. This was dated January 25, 2003.

And there is this. less than a month after the September 11 attacks, His testimony starts at 27 minutes in and he speaks for about 15 minutes. http://www.c-span.org/video/?166492-1/preparation-biological-chemical-attacks
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