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Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:39 PM

A message from Manny: Adios, Dear DUers

Topic: Adios, Dear DUers

So today I was nabbed by the Stark Fist of Removal. It stalked closer and closer over the past few months, and today it got me. A shock, but certainly no surprise given the nature of things.

I am blown away, just blown away by the support that I've received here and on other sites. I am verklempt. Thank you seems like a weak thing to say, but it's all I got.

Goddess knows that I've said many things on DU over the last decade, and I doubt that there's much more to add that's of any interest or use, save for one thing: I love you all. My friends, the Swarm, ... I love you all, even if I don't always like some of the nonsense that you write.

Let's all now go forward together (even if not together on DU), and do what we can to turn our country around, to seize it back from the Republicans, the Third Wayers, and the other deluded individuals who've dug this deep crater we find ourselves in.

Let's win. Humanity and our planet hang in the balance.



"There is nothing I love as much as a good fight."
- FDR (and Manny Goldstein)

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Reply A message from Manny: Adios, Dear DUers (Original post)
marym625 Dec 2015 OP
immoderate Dec 2015 #1
sabrina 1 Dec 2015 #40
Tess49 Dec 2015 #45
emsimon33 Dec 2015 #88
Fast Walker 52 Dec 2015 #101
Tess49 Dec 2015 #106
belty Dec 2015 #165
yourpaljoey Feb 2016 #178
man4allcats Dec 2015 #49
emsimon33 Dec 2015 #90
earthside Dec 2015 #108
RKP5637 Dec 2015 #122
dflprincess Dec 2015 #160
baran Dec 2015 #53
emsimon33 Dec 2015 #89
MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #57
emsimon33 Dec 2015 #86
sabrina 1 Dec 2015 #121
pacalo Dec 2015 #137
sabrina 1 Dec 2015 #147
Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #75
beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #145
merrily Dec 2015 #2
marym625 Dec 2015 #3
840high Dec 2015 #4
liberalnarb Dec 2015 #5
Thespian2 Dec 2015 #6
haikugal Dec 2015 #7
Dont call me Shirley Dec 2015 #8
TSIAS Dec 2015 #9
tularetom Dec 2015 #10
Warren Stupidity Dec 2015 #11
ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2015 #19
zeemike Dec 2015 #32
billhicks76 Dec 2015 #35
greiner3 Dec 2015 #71
zeemike Dec 2015 #105
bvar22 Dec 2015 #116
R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #141
TSIAS Dec 2015 #20
840high Dec 2015 #42
Enthusiast Dec 2015 #54
ashling Dec 2015 #63
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Scuba Dec 2015 #96
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liberalnarb Dec 2015 #48
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GreenPartyVoter Dec 2015 #21
JackRiddler Dec 2015 #22
Dragonfli Dec 2015 #27
billhicks76 Dec 2015 #36
Enthusiast Dec 2015 #55
billhicks76 Dec 2015 #60
Enthusiast Dec 2015 #65
7962 Dec 2015 #99
JackRiddler Dec 2015 #110
billhicks76 Dec 2015 #161
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Champion Jack Dec 2015 #23
JimDandy Dec 2015 #39
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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:46 PM

1. I will really miss you, Manny.

 

You are not predictable.

--imm

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Response to immoderate (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:07 AM

40. No need to miss him, thankfully, he is going to be posting his wonderful posts on the new

site where his huge following from here are already enrolling in droves!

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #40)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:20 AM

45. Where is the new site? n/t

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Response to Tess49 (Reply #45)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 06:22 AM

88. http://jackpineradicals.org/content.php

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Response to emsimon33 (Reply #88)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 10:18 AM

101. thanks-- I'll look into it

 

I will miss Manny. Always loved his writing.

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Response to emsimon33 (Reply #88)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:03 AM

106. Thanks for the info!

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Response to emsimon33 (Reply #88)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 08:31 AM

165. thanks for sharing !!

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Response to emsimon33 (Reply #88)

Sun Feb 21, 2016, 08:17 PM

178. Good to know, he is an inspiration

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #40)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:23 AM

49. What new site is that?

Sorry if it's something I should already know. I rarely login here these days.

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Response to emsimon33 (Reply #90)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:49 AM

108. Thank you for the link.

I'm there!

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Response to emsimon33 (Reply #90)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 02:48 PM

122. Thanks!!!! n/t

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Response to emsimon33 (Reply #90)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:11 PM

160. Thanks!

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #40)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:26 AM

53. Can you give a link?

 

Or is that against the rules? I really enjoyed Manny's posts -- especially his humor.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #40)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:44 AM

57. Like me?

Hell yes, like me...

How refreshing! I found Manny there and made it my first post!

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #40)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 06:14 AM

86. Already enrolled

and trolls and true believers do not stalk discussions, like the living dead that they are, sucking the brains of others to give life to their pitiful ideas.

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Response to emsimon33 (Reply #86)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 02:44 PM

121. Great, me too! Took off like a rocket actually, shows how much of a need there is

for people to be free of the non productive thread derailing that has now become a staple here sadly.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #40)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 06:45 PM

137. Thanks so much!

(You've been missed here, too, Sabrina!)

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Response to pacalo (Reply #137)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 08:17 PM

147. Hi pacalo!

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Response to immoderate (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 02:13 AM

75. You can love or hate Manny, but this thread deserves your rec.

Regardless of how you personally feel about Third Way Manny, he drove so much controversy, discussion, clicks, laughs, anger...... Fuck it, everyone probably has their own personal adjective for TWM.

Regardless of how you felt, you looked in and usually posted something. You can love him or hate him, but he was a huge presence. DU will move on now, for better or worse, but it will not be the same.

He was a big part of it for a very long time and deserves this final respect.

Kick and Rec.

Thanks for the times Manny. Many will miss your postings here, even those that have sworn the most evil of curses upon you.

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Response to Cassiopeia (Reply #75)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 08:16 PM

145. Well said!

I didn't always agree with him but his satire was delicious and he should not have been stalked and bullied by a certain faction here who want to drive others from the site.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:54 PM

2. Thank you, marym625

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Response to merrily (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:58 PM

3. My absolute pleasure!

Don't know how long I'll be here so doing what I can

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:58 PM

4. I miss Manny.

 

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:59 PM

5. Poor Manny.

This is tyranny.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:00 PM

6. Thank you...

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:02 PM

7. Thank you Mary! Manny is a favorite and I miss him.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:04 PM

8. Manny...

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:04 PM

9. K&R

I don't post a lot, but I read every day and found Manny to be one of my favorite DU'ers.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:08 PM

10. Manny is who I would be if I were smarter and had the guts

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:10 PM

11. And the jury is in....

 

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service
On Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:00 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

A message from Manny: Adios, Dear DUers
http://www.democraticunderground.com/128086208

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

No comments added by alerter

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:08 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I don't think the Admin's intent with a banning was that a third party could speak the banned's words verbatim on DU. Effectively, this means that he is not banned if he can find a copy-and-paste confederate... It is effectively a sock puppet.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: So the Alerter said: Oh, it seems no comments were provided by the Alerter.
Way to explain/defend one of the stupidest alerts I've ever seen here, Alerter.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I was going to vote to hide this on the basis of it being a post from a banned member, but the alerter didn't even bother to put that in their alert. If you want me to hide, please tell me the reason. Otherwise, it feels like you're alerting just to alert out of spite.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Wow. Alerter didn't even try to write down some ridiculous bullshit to convince me to hide this post. 0 for effort. Stupid lazy-ass alert.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #11)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:14 PM

19. This is pretty sick.

Hillary supporters are out of control.

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #19)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:47 PM

32. No I think they are in control

Except that Jury selection is still random...but that could change or improve as everyone else leaves.

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Response to zeemike (Reply #32)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:55 PM

35. Backfiring On Them

 

They think they should automatically win based on name alone and just forget that there is an election...a mere formality. Not a smart idea.

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Response to zeemike (Reply #32)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 01:20 AM

71. "...Jury selection is still random..."

 

From what I've read here concerning the Jury System and the ever increasing complaints, maybe the admins are using software that is straight out of a Diebold voting machine.

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Response to greiner3 (Reply #71)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 10:59 AM

105. That is always a possibility.

In this digital age you can be as deceptive as you want to be.
However I am still being selected for a jury so it is not totally exclusive

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Response to greiner3 (Reply #71)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 01:45 PM

116. I don't think so.

I believe they are letting DWS run the show.
She has risen well past the level of her incompetence.

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Response to bvar22 (Reply #116)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 07:46 PM

141. An old Greek saying...

 

A fish rots from the head.

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #11)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:18 PM

20. Juror #3

Appears to be someone without a heart or a soul. Manny was a beloved member for years, and doesn't even want to allow him a few words of thanks to his friends. I can't believe there are people in the world with such little compassion.

His goodbye, as many of his posts, were eloquent. There was no malice towards anybody. If I were in Manny's shoes I'd be a lot less gracious.

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Response to TSIAS (Reply #20)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:10 AM

42. ....x10+

 

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Response to TSIAS (Reply #20)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:27 AM

54. Huge +1!

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Response to TSIAS (Reply #20)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 01:00 AM

63. Agreed

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Response to TSIAS (Reply #20)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 03:00 AM

81. Yep...

^^^ THIS ^^^

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Response to TSIAS (Reply #20)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 07:11 AM

93. What you said

It sickens me the attitude of some people. They truly are making this place unenjoyable. They completely remind me of the candidate they so blindly support.

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Response to TSIAS (Reply #20)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 08:10 AM

96. + another

 

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Response to TSIAS (Reply #20)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 09:20 AM

98. Well said,

so go to Jackpine, come to the resin side! I'll be staying here as well. Because there is still some great stuff being posted here.

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #11)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:31 PM

25. I'm no longer capable of being surprised by crap like this. n/t

 

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:21 AM

48. Unfucking believable!

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:48 AM

59. "Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system..."

"... even though we don't know why the fuck we should adjudicate this alert!"

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 01:19 AM

70. Juror number 5 had it right.

 

All they are is spite. Even when they think their candidate is ahead, they're spiteful.

Hm. Maybe that's the definition of hell?

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:12 PM

12. May Humanity bless you!

Thanks Manny!
You informed me.
You inspired me!
You made me laugh.
All the best,
BB

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:12 PM

13. You were always one of my favs..

You do snark better than almost anyone.. good solid witty smart snark

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:12 PM

14. I miss you all ready.

(very,very,very sad)

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:12 PM

15. Thank You Manny - You Will Be Missed

eom

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:13 PM

16. I will miss him. He was brave, funny and on the mark. Love ya,

Manny. It's not the same without ya.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:13 PM

17. Miss you Manny.

I always enjoyed seeing a new post by you, and like many here it was a must read. Hope you make it back some day, "reincarnated" maybe?

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:14 PM

18. ........

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:20 PM

21. Gonna miss seeing you!

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:23 PM

22. What got Mannie banned? Can you point to it?

x

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Response to JackRiddler (Reply #22)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:36 PM

27. He said he would not vote for Hillary Clinton

They take their anointings here very seriously, won't even wait until after the primary and the chosen is actually chosen much like the DLC.

It should not matter if that was said on the off chance that we have an actual democracy and someone else is chosen after the primary, would refusing to vote for Hilary be a bannable offence if MOM or Sanders wins the primary? And does this rule only apply after the primary and only regarding the one that wins the primary?

Guess not.

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Response to Dragonfli (Reply #27)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:59 PM

36. Should Republicans Be Forced To Vote For Trump?

 

Should we be forced to vote for Joe Leiberman? Is this just a way to stifle debate? What if a decent democrat broke away because they saw the party fall into the wrong hands? That would mean they are not allowed to talk here? That doesn't seem healthy.

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Response to billhicks76 (Reply #36)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:28 AM

55. It is decidedly unhealthy.

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Response to Enthusiast (Reply #55)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:53 AM

60. What If We Discovered A Criminal Betrayal By Our Candidate?

 

There are scenarios that dont deserve absolutism.

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Response to billhicks76 (Reply #60)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 01:05 AM

65. Correct you are.

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Response to billhicks76 (Reply #36)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 09:33 AM

99. Apparently around here, yes, you should be forced.

My only hide came as a result of criticizing hillary

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Response to 7962 (Reply #99)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:23 PM

110. I think me too, I don't remember.

It was one of those things where you criticize her Iraq war vote and get called a sexist, if I remember.

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Response to JackRiddler (Reply #110)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:26 PM

161. Yeah I Had That Happen Too

 

Same person was labeling anyone sexist who criticized her Iraq War vote.

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Response to billhicks76 (Reply #36)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 08:49 PM

152. "Is this just a way to stifle debate? "

 

Yes.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:24 PM

23. I've had manny blocked foe 3 years

Not surprised

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Response to Champion Jack (Reply #23)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:01 AM

39. This goodbye is not for you, then. No need to respond.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:29 PM

24. Thank you Mary for posting this!

Just keep talking Manny...The Swarm cannot silence your voice.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:35 PM

26. We'll all cross paths again and I hope to see you Manny.

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Response to Phlem (Reply #26)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:47 PM

33. Can you imagine it Plem -

Standing near to the podium while Sanders repeats his oath.

All of us who are working to ensure the victory, standing there, a bit breathless, and a bit surprised, on January 20th 2017!

Manny too of course!

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Response to truedelphi (Reply #33)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:00 AM

38. I can, I can see it and I know it's going to happen.

I believe it with all my heart and soul.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:43 PM

28. Thank you.

He will indeed be missed. I enjoyed his posts so much. I don't do Facebook, but I am hoping he will post on that other wonderful site I found today.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:43 PM

29. KnR

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:43 PM

30. Not going to be the same without you Manny

I hope you can return and the admin will relent. If you want to that is.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:44 PM

31. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!

 





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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:50 PM

34. Thank you for the nice message to us DU-ers Manny.

Hope to see you back here eventually.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:59 PM

37. Wow, I am speechless. Manny's intelligence, humor, passion, honesty,

 

and great insights will be so missed. His humanity shone through his posts. He could be snarky, but he is so clearly a kind person. Cheers to you Manny.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:09 AM

41. Will miss you Manny


May all your travels be good ones.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:11 AM

43. Very nice, Manny.

You will be missed here.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:15 AM

44. You rock, Manny

 

Thanks for fighting the good fight. See you on the other side.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:20 AM

46. I can't believe he is gone. What kind of place has this become? nt

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Response to Live and Learn (Reply #46)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 01:46 AM

73. Haven't you heard?

This is now Third Way Underground, and you'll either take it, or get booted.

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Response to SwankyXomb (Reply #73)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 03:04 AM

82. "Third Way Underground"

Is That the New Name? Has a ring it. Like an... (well if we say what we're thinking - we'll probably be banned - so use the power of interpretation to read our minds).

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:21 AM

47. Love you, Manny. May the FORCE be with you and w ith Bernir.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:24 AM

50. Manny's at the new site

so I won't miss him because I'll be able to read him regularly. The only thing I will miss is his excellent tweaking of the Spewing Tantrum Throwers here. That I will miss.

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Response to navarth (Reply #50)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 06:45 AM

92. Which site?

Thanks.

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Response to mahina (Reply #92)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 09:59 PM

155. he's here:

jackpineradicals.org

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Response to navarth (Reply #155)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:52 AM

162. Thanks.

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Response to navarth (Reply #50)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 05:10 PM

130. Yes... the tweaking of the STTs.

He did it better than anyone.

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Response to SMC22307 (Reply #130)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 10:00 PM

156. I will truly miss that. He's quite good. And he does it without being nasty.

He shows me a lot more class than many I see here.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:24 AM

51. Do I really need to say it? K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations!

Thank you, Manny! Thank you, Mary!

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:25 AM

52. I respect you Manny.

Thank you for all the inspiration.

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Response to mithnanthy (Reply #52)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 03:30 AM

84. Indeed! Manny walks the talk on democratic values.

 

And it is not about belonging to a party, or voting for the party sanctioned candidate.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:33 AM

56. There's no-one like you Manny.

 

Unique and thought provoking.
Best wishes.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:47 AM

58. I will miss Manny

I must find this new site that is being mentioned.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:54 AM

61. Inertia is a bitch...without an external force, this place is sliding into irrelevancy.

The fact that warring factions are chasing away or outright banning people is worthy of a cesspool like RedState or FreeRepublic.

There once was a place on the interwebs I found indispensable. Sadly, all good things must apparently end.

Vaya con Dios Manny.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:54 AM

62. Manny thanks, Monsieur Goldstein.

 

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 01:03 AM

64. Wow.

Debbie Wasserman Schultz must be in charge of DU now. Who knew?

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 01:07 AM

66. The view has to be greener on the other side

Namaste

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 01:10 AM

67. Good duers are being exhiled

Shame...Shame...shame. We're next

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Response to liberalnarb (Reply #67)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 09:12 PM

171. Many good DUers have been exiled over the years,

including a Minnesotan who was purged due to misunderstanding a poll.

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Response to Lydia Leftcoast (Reply #171)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 09:13 PM

172. How did that work?

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Response to liberalnarb (Reply #172)

Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:39 PM

173. She overthought the question

It was about the Holocaust.

There had been some Holocaust deniers on the board, and someone posted a poll. The options were something like:

1. The Holocaust is a myth and very few Jews were killed

2. Six million Jews were killed during the Holocaust

3. No one really knows how many Jews were killed in the Holocaust

She chose 3), and when I talked to her in person, she told me that her reasoning was, "A lot of victims were never counted, and it could have been a lot more."

But the admins took it to mean that she was halfway to being a Holocaust denier (which she most certainly is not) and summarily banned her.

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Response to Lydia Leftcoast (Reply #173)

Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:57 PM

174. They ban people too easily.

They never look in to the background of the situation.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 01:14 AM

68. A gracious message from a good man.

 

You lit this place up, Manny. I wish I'd been around longer just to have had more time with you.

But you did NOT break the TOS. They made a mistake. Toward the end of the thread on which they nabbed you, some Hiliarians were trying to twist what you said to make it into something else.

You say you miss the swarm, but I don't see how anyone could miss them.

I hope somehow you will be back.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 01:15 AM

69. I know we'll meet again.

 

Don't know where; don't know when.

But I know we'll meet again, some sunny day.

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Response to OnyxCollie (Reply #69)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 02:35 AM

77. We know where to meet Manny again! On the new forum!

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 01:43 AM

72. K&R

Last edited Sun Dec 20, 2015, 02:13 AM - Edit history (1)

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 02:12 AM

74. Thanks for all the good times Manny

It is not even shocking any more....

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 02:35 AM

76. Thank you Mary

It is clear that some people don't know Jack.

I pine for a world where we discuss ideas without rancor.

I know it's a radical idea, but it is what Democrats used to be about.

Maybe there is an organization somewhere that people can go to where ideas are discussed without all the shit stirring.

http://jackpineradicals.org/

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #76)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 02:43 AM

78. Nicely done!



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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #76)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 02:47 AM

79. Clever! Manny-worthy!

 

Pretty soon, we will all be over there, and DU can attain the irrelevancy it so greatly desires and is working hard to deserve.

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #76)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 01:05 PM

114. What??? I don't get it. Can you spell it out more clearly?

 

Just kidding of course.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 02:58 AM

80. We Want Manny....

On Our Show/Podcast. He or She (As This is the Internet And All) has a OPEN INVITE to appear on Independent Underground Radio LIVE. To save email spam -- Manny should hit us up here on Facebook -- and leave us a message.

We would LOVE to discuss what happened with our 3 Million Plus Listeners since 2010, and its aftermath in a Frank and Honest Manny type of way.

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Response to LovingA2andMI (Reply #80)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 03:28 AM

83. Manny, I think this would be a good place to get your message out about walking the talk on

 

democratic values. You are the man.

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Response to avaistheone1 (Reply #83)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 01:54 PM

118. Thanks!

Hopefully Manny will accept the offer!

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 04:34 AM

85. I have but only one rec to give, but many many thanks.

oh, and a kick.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 06:18 AM

87. Great loss for DU but I shall see you on "the other side"

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 06:26 AM

91. They couldn't hurt Bernie, so they went for Manny. So sad.

 

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 07:16 AM

94. I will truly miss you Manny!

You were one of my favorite reasons for logging in here. This site will be incomplete without you!

I said as much in a reply to your last post having no idea it would be. You are very amazing, and a fantastic scribe.

Farewell my friend!

ybbor

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 07:46 AM

95. Manny... your wit, insight and humour will be truly missed

I hope to see your postings somewhere else
your banning was animal farm ish..........

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 08:13 AM

97. Classy, very classy. No surprise there.

 

Thanks marym625.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 09:43 AM

100. Why tell any candidate you will vote for them regardless of their rhetoric or actions?

This candidate would have no reason to work for your vote or interests.

And any candidate that needs this kind of protection and propping-up is a very weak and frightened politician.

Thanks Manny for times you have lightened the pall that has come over DU.

Solidarity, Liberals!

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 10:23 AM

102. K&R Thanks for always speaking truth to power MG. nt

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 10:30 AM

103. I will miss Manny's energy here

I almost never post, though I've been a DUer since 2004 but on this occasion, I feel compelled. This place is already impoverished since Manny Goldstien and Third Way Manny's departure. I signed up over at jackpineradicals but I think its crazy that someone as reasoned and productive of interesting exchanges as Manny was here should be banned from DU. That decision really needs to be rethought. We can't all just join clubs of lock step thinking and expect to effect anything at all. Moderators, do you really think Manny's posts were designed to get people to not vote Democratic? Or that they could possibly have that effect? Its just an absurd proposition and I can't help but believe that you all three know it.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 10:30 AM

104. Thank you Manny. I've always looked forward to your posts.

I'll miss you here, but will see you on the other site. I'm registering today. Enjoy your Holidays and move beyond the injustice you experienced here.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:25 AM

107. Just Want To Say I've Always Been A Manny Supporter...

I align myself more with his views the so many here on DU. Just took a quick look at the site he's posting at now, will do more later.

DU has changed so much since I joined back in 2004, but I'm not surprised. Not sure if I'm allowed to say this but wasn't there some stuff out there about Skinner supporting Hillary early on??

If so, that's not showing much impartiality to me. But, I don't run this place and certainly don't the rules. I will also miss Manny even if I don't post every day like so, so many here.

I'm a Bernie supporter because I BELIEVE electing Hillary will be more of the same AND this country REALLY, REALLY had better start WAKING UP and realizing that for so many of us HILLARY = MORE BIG PHARM, INSURANCE CONTROL, WALL STREET and on and on!

AND MORE OF DEBBIE WASSERMAN-SCHULTZ! THIS is real fear to me!

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Response to ChiciB1 (Reply #107)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:10 PM

109. I've been here since 2003.

DU has always been a fun place and I have found so much good information here.

I aways like the 'Underground' notion that is in the name ... that connotes a touch of radicalism, avant grade, daring.

And that is the case some of the time. Except whenever Hillary Clinton has been running for president.

The conservatism and reactionary supporters of her were terribly disruptive in 2008 and they are doing it again.

What is particularly bad this time is that more and more DU is like posting in politically correct zone ... you really do have to be careful about everything you write, every opinion you share, because you could be 'alerted' by the Hillarians or you could be banned. There is 'fear' here and that is pretty weird and pretty sad.

The 'safe places' I think were a particularly bad idea; a refuge for the like-minded to build walls and keep out challenges and questions is distinctly not "underground" nor is that especially "democratic" either.

The best thing about DU is still the interface, it is by far one of the best and easiest web sites to read and post in, so I recognize the quality ... but the content is surely going downhill.

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Response to earthside (Reply #109)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 03:37 PM

125. "There is 'fear' here and that is pretty weird and pretty sad."

That's the GOP game and it is not a pleasant thing to see on a democratic site.

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Response to earthside (Reply #109)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 03:39 PM

126. Everything You Just Posted Is Something I Completely

agree with. I suppose since it's inception it's grown over many years and the web site is one of the best. When I joined you didn't have to donate to skip the ads, but I guess that may be a sign of the times. Which of course is where MONEY comes in once again.

There was a time when I DID feel Hillary would be great for this country, but that was long ago. After everything that went down during her campaign against Obama I never really trusted her again. AND I DON'T trust her now either, nor do I believe half of what she's saying this time around. It's pretty easy to do research or even check in here to find out who she's connected with and I think will still be beholden to.

THIS is why I'm supporting Bernie because too many people are sleep walking or maybe just don't care. I will have to say I have sleepless nights about this because the SYSTEM has rotted from within much too long! And she IS at the core of the SYSTEM whether people here or elsewhere want to admit it.

It's RAH, RAH, RAH for her foreign affairs acumen, but I'm not impressed because MORE WAR will solve nothing! She KNOWS what needs to be said, but my gut tells me she's still a hawk and just that alone is enough reason not to support her.

And yes, you are correct, I remember 2008 and what went down, and in some ways her "playbook" hasn't changed. Except this time she's had more time to sway doubters from the past AND the newbies who don't really know Hillary. I just don't think she's changed spots or stripes, she was SOS and now is at odds with Obama on issues she fully supported while SOS. TRUST needs to be earned and I'm tired of having to fall on my sword. So we're in-between a rock and a hard place like no other time I can remember... the other SIDE does not only MEAN FEAR, it MEANS chaos and very well our demise. I've said it here before, I have many FB friend from other countries and since they know my views they are very open about what their country thinks of America. Just saying this makes me fear I'll be banned. But truth is truth!

There ARE TWO sides to Hillary or maybe more, but one thing has been clear to me from long ago is that she is really DLC/Third Way and as a true blue Democrat from way back I can't be part of it. It's very closer to being one of "the other" which bothers me ad infinitum!

While NOT exactly the same, there are times I wish I had never read the book The Rise And Fall Of The Roman Empire, and I too have FEAR! But, now as you say you have to be careful what you say here at DU or things happen.

Rolling Stone has an article in their latest edition by Sean Wilentz called "The Turning Point" Why 2016 Is the Most Important Election of Our Time. I think everyone should read it.

Gotta run, as usual I just go on and on... We must stay true to what our heart believes, it's how I've always felt!


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Response to ChiciB1 (Reply #126)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 04:28 PM

127. Thoughtful post.

I recognize it took time to think about and write ... and I appreciate it.

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Response to earthside (Reply #127)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 09:16 PM

153. Thank You, But Not Too Much Time...

Easy to speak about truth as I know it.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:24 PM

111. Thanks for steering me to JackpineRadicals

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:30 PM

112. Thank you for fighting the good fight with humor and integrity!

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 01:01 PM

113. See you at jackpineradicals.org

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Response to FlatBaroque (Reply #113)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 01:52 PM

117. ^this^

Jackpine Radicals is the best site on the internet right now.

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Response to FlatBaroque (Reply #113)

Wed Jan 6, 2016, 11:37 PM

170. Yes. Thank you!

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 01:18 PM

115. Thanks Manny for the classy goodbye and thanks mary for posting it. I will miss Manny's ornery but

 

classy posts here. We are losing good people too fast here. But it had to come to this. The Democratic Party is splitting and it's evident here.

Good Democrats love a good and honest fight.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 01:59 PM

119. What a boring place this site will turn into without dissenting voices

I know that I am not interested in coming to a Hillary fan site with little or no questioning of policies. Anyway, classy statement.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 02:25 PM

120. Jeez, Manny, and you weren't even a Gunhumper©™.

 

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 02:49 PM

123. K&R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 03:06 PM

124. Manny, have seen your dialogs so will check the new site out. Thanks.

 

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 05:04 PM

128. Manny's ban, in a nut shell, displays the enormous change DU has gone through since if first started

alas, all good things come to an end.

DU, as I see it now, (from what it once was), is on impulse power of the politically correct.

quite frankly, I don't know if I'll be on here much longer.

The days of open and frank discussion and debate have long since gone.

now we write in an atmosphere of hair trigger alerts and trolling to get people banned.

I don't write nearly as much on here anymore. Once upon I used to write extensive essays and editorials on everything from Homelessness to wall street to how the government continually lies us into one war after another. But no more.

The cult of personality that exists now on here, prevents me to voice my opinion for fear of the alert squads.

Granted I still have the old 100% rating but that's only because I have elected to keep my mouth shut.

Oddly, I don't blame the admins, I blame a group of people on here that take it upon themselves to be the purveyor of all things deemed DU correct.

if they want a "discussion" board all to themselves with a one sided opinion on all things, well, they can have it.

I don't have the energy or the want to fight something I have zero control or influence over.

DU was once an amazing place. Truly amazing.

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Response to Javaman (Reply #128)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 06:40 PM

135. Bingo!

 

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 05:09 PM

129. Love you too, Manny! See you in a better place! ;)

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 05:18 PM

131. k&r

Signed up for the new site today, same user name, woohoo!

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 05:32 PM

132. Proud to be rec 414, Good lick, Manny.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 05:52 PM

133. the Manny haters can F*** THEMSELVES

seriously

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Response to Skittles (Reply #133)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 07:08 PM

139. AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service

On Sun Dec 20, 2015, 05:53 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

the Manny haters can F*** THEMSELVES
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=87331

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Skinner banned Manny for violating TOS by advocating people vote for Sanders as an independent or write-in candidate in the general election. This post is essentially telling the site owners to fuck themselves.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Dec 20, 2015, 06:03 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Please continue this discussion. Please be brave and listen to each other.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Way out to of line
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Nice try, snitch, but I don't think the owners hate Manny, only the unhinged Hillary supporters do. I happen to agree with Skittles, haters can fornicate with their own persons. Stop alert stalking the Bernie group and mind ya bidness..

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

Heya, Skittles! Carry on, the haters' alert failed.


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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #139)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 08:10 PM

143. delicate little flowers, aren't they?

seriously

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Response to Skittles (Reply #143)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 08:14 PM

144. And cowardly liars.

Twisting your post into "telling the site owners to fuck themselves" is a bald faced lie meant to get your post hidden.

Don't they have anything better to do?

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #144)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 08:21 PM

148. I have the utmost respect for the site owners and their decisions

I won't second-guess them

yes, whoever said that knows they're lying

but the piece of shit grave dancers? They can all F***THEMSELVES.

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Response to Skittles (Reply #148)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 08:24 PM

149. Yes indeed!

Gravedancers are horrible people, I don't know how they can stand themselves.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #139)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 10:28 PM

158. This alerter should be alerted on

I think the post in question was referring to the people dancing on Manny's grave. Whoever alerted this post is intentionally misrepresenting the situation and is relying on a lazy jury to come back with a hide.

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Response to TSIAS (Reply #158)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 10:32 PM

159. I've noticed a lot of alerts like that lately, and not just in this group.

I've seen it happen in other protected groups as well, it's a nasty tactic that shouldn't be tolerated by jurors. Unfortunately sometimes it works and juries vote to hide.

Lucky for Skittle this time 6 of us realized what was going on and got it right.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #139)

Fri Dec 25, 2015, 12:23 AM

166. Juror #7, I think I love you...

 

Outstanding!

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 06:37 PM

134. I hope that he will return

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 06:43 PM

136. Luv ya Manny! Miss you already! Take care.



Thanks marym625!

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 07:07 PM

138. I can't help but wonder - after 12 years of being a member here . . .

. . . if DU jumped the shark with this banning. Just not right.

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Response to Richard D (Reply #138)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 07:17 PM

140. As evidenced further by the alert posted in #139.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 07:59 PM

142. Manny...

 



You gave TPTB a case of red ass, and with every post you showed their hypocrisy in action.

So what if some jumped the shark and exppsed their purple underbelly attempting to disappear you down the memory hole?

The Hilarity club will be as pleased as punch but none-the-wiser.

See you on the other side.

-RDO

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 08:16 PM

146. For Manny G: "You can't win, Darth. If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful...

...than you could possibly imagine"

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 08:43 PM

150. ..

 

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 08:47 PM

151. Kick and R

Always loved your posts Manny.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 09:43 PM

154. This place needs you more than it needs the hobgoblin of rules

The rules aren't consistent and will change anyway. The only thing that meant a damn to this place was people like you who should never have never been constrained by the hobgobins.

Hope to see you again soon.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 10:20 PM

157. Dare Manny!

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:02 PM

163. I prefer to think of it as a floating party

 

Any apartment will do as long as there's punch.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Mon Dec 21, 2015, 06:24 PM

164. Arrrrrrrrgh

I don't post here a lot, but I did like Manny's posts. And now he's gone, thanks to some assholes who couldn't, or wouldn't, understand him.

Arrrrrrrrgh.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Tue Dec 29, 2015, 06:16 PM

168. Manny, Manny, dear dear Manny...

I've just learned that you've been tombstoned while I was away and all I want to say is thank you for the many years of your excellent pertinent commentary, thought-provoking, and hive-poking.

It's a long hard road we're travelin' and as a leftie from way back when (been called a pinko commie right here, once too often, during my fourteen years of DU membership), I feel a keen solidarity with those like you who only wish to fight the good fight.

I'd like to echo what Javaman has so eloquently written in an earlier reply as I agree with everything he's said ...

"DU was once an amazing place. Truly amazing."

I wish you all the best, dear Manny...all the best!

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Sun Feb 21, 2016, 06:44 PM

175. No words, other than to say this site has become unworthy of Manny's wit, intelligence and passion!

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Feb 21, 2016, 06:52 PM

176. Manny got banned? Geez, this place is turning into a joke. WTF!

He was one of the most interesting posters on DU, even if you didn't always agree with him. Great sense of humor and a great DU'er.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Sun Feb 21, 2016, 07:52 PM

177. Hey Manny...you probably deserved it! You wouldn't take any shit and they finally got you...

but, like the caged canary that is turned loose because the people couldn't stand its constant singing...you will be free to continue your wonderful insightful views in a forum where the silencers do not operate...

farewell from one place and see you at the other...

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 08:55 PM

179. If and when you read this

I want to say I didn't really come to appreciate you until right before you were served the pizza. Lets just say I didn't get your satire like many here did.
May the wind always be to your back and your roads always smoothly paved.

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Response to marym625 (Original post)

Fri Feb 26, 2016, 11:53 AM

180. I'm with manny

 

This place has gone to censored crap.

Toe the line or be stifled.

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