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Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:46 PM

As you all know. We have lost one of our members this morning due to a

TOS violation

Manny has gone to spend time on other things, such as his philanthropy. You may message one of our hosts if you wish for more information. His satire here will be missed by many.

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Reply As you all know. We have lost one of our members this morning due to a (Original post)
Autumn Dec 2015 OP
Frances Dec 2015 #1
Autumn Dec 2015 #2
Bubzer Dec 2015 #19
SoapBox Dec 2015 #22
840high Dec 2015 #23
marym625 Dec 2015 #3
Autumn Dec 2015 #5
marym625 Dec 2015 #6
Autumn Dec 2015 #7
Liberal Jesus Freak Dec 2015 #12
Autumn Dec 2015 #13
monmouth4 Dec 2015 #4
newfie11 Dec 2015 #8
merrily Dec 2015 #9
TBF Dec 2015 #10
RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #11
merrily Dec 2015 #15
a la izquierda Dec 2015 #14
merrily Dec 2015 #16
a la izquierda Dec 2015 #17
WillyT Dec 2015 #18
AtomicKitten Dec 2015 #20
Manifestor_of_Light Dec 2015 #21
JDPriestly Dec 2015 #24
beltanefauve Dec 2015 #25
Autumn Dec 2015 #26
dorkzilla Dec 2015 #28
alcina Dec 2015 #27
Warpy Dec 2015 #29
Autumn Dec 2015 #30

Response to Autumn (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:49 PM

1. what is a TOS violation?

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Response to Frances (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:52 PM

2. This

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice

Vote for Democrats.
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Response to Autumn (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 05:15 PM

19. And here is why PPR'ing of Manny was wrong

In Democratic primaries, members may support whomever they choose

We're still in primary season. The PPR constitutes an act of silencing a dissenting opinion. Not a violation of the ToS

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Response to Bubzer (Reply #19)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 05:35 PM

22. But...

When someone that has ultimate power and is In-It-To-Win-It for Hill...some voices apparently need to be taken out...also serves as a warning to others as an example.

But we know that he is alive and well, speaking freely to the World, in other locations...so, nothing was stopped.

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Response to Bubzer (Reply #19)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 05:35 PM

23. Correct.

 

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Response to Autumn (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:07 PM

3. Very nice, Autumn

I might not be able to really help out though.

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Response to marym625 (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:08 PM

5. Oh you have helped a lot

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Response to Autumn (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:09 PM

6. I'll see you elsewhere, my dear!!

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Response to Autumn (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:41 PM

12. Thanks for the link.

I'm the newest member there.

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Response to Liberal Jesus Freak (Reply #12)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:42 PM

13. Anytime

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Response to Autumn (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:08 PM

4. I get the feeling if the Admins. had backed someone else, things would be different..n/t

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Response to Autumn (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:19 PM

8. I'm sorry he's gone

I agreed with much he had to say.

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Response to newfie11 (Reply #8)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:21 PM

9. Gone from DU, but not gone from off the face of the earth or from off the face of the internet

Not even gone from off the facebook of the internet.

ETA: See Reply 7

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Response to Autumn (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:23 PM

10. I haven't been on here much -

been ignoring politics in most places lately. I'm sorry to see this though. I loved Manny's sarcasm and I didn't see him as divisive at all. Maybe I misjudged, but I did think he was a true progressive who was sick of the take-over of the party by the third way.

Manny I will miss you.

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Response to Autumn (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:32 PM

11. Oh well...

 

Sorry to see him go.
I guess it will be only a matter of time before they throw me out too.
I never did too well in places like these. I eventually get under folks' skins, and they throw me out any way.
I'll be seein' Manny on Facebook though.

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Response to RoccoR5955 (Reply #11)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:49 PM

15. See Reply 7

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Response to Autumn (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:42 PM

14. I'll have to watch what I say...

I went off on Facebook about the DNC thing yesterday. If I said on DU what I'd said on FB, probably I'd be gone too (though I don't post enough to draw Manny levels of attention).
I'm sad to see him go and will mosey on over to JackpineRadicals.

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Response to a la izquierda (Reply #14)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:50 PM

16. I love your posts.

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Response to merrily (Reply #16)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:53 PM

17. Thanks!

I've been sticking to reading lately...end of semester stress has made me a little, ah, agitated.
Have a wonderful afternoon!

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Response to Autumn (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 05:12 PM

18. Two Things...

 

1.) EVERYBODY... was angry yesterday, and there were lots of threads where things were said, in said anger. To me, in times like that... unique/unusual times... an Admin Warning might be a better way to go.

2.) There was a poster (who shall remain nameless) who outed a HRC supporter (who shall remain nameless) yesterday during the mele, for a post from the 2008 Campaign who stated that they would rather die, than vote for Barack Obama. Said it in many different ways in just one lengthy post.

Yet that poster still posts here.

Maybe they apologized, and were reinstated... I do not know.

The point I'm attempting to make, is to realize that were are all human, and provocative posts tend to provoke, by definition.

I'd love to see some sort of leeway for people who have a long history of posting, and a body of work that suggests where their true heart is... especially in a moments of heat, as ALL of yesterday was.

Many here did not find Manny humorous... I understand that.

Most... as evident in his post history, found him both thought provoking, and funny as hell.

I for one will miss him, and will welcome him and others back with open arms.

I look forward to that day.



Thank you, Autumn.





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Response to Autumn (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 05:16 PM

20. It is really disheartening: NYC_SKP, Lo0nix, and now Manny gone.

Last edited Sat Dec 19, 2015, 05:47 PM - Edit history (1)

Manny didn't say anything many, many others haven't said, including myself. The TOS states specifically anything goes during the primary, but Manny was TS'd for the TOS rules for the general election. It is a blatant unfair application of the rules. And the grave-dancing by the usual clowns is just ugly.

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Response to Autumn (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 05:21 PM

21. I got a hide.

For saying something that the jury thought was offensive to all Texans. In fact, one juror said "MOL how would you like it if someone said bad things about your state?"

Well, strangely enough, I an a native Texan and have lived here all my life, but I didn't state that in my post.

I know I'm surrounded by recta. (That's the plural of assholes, or you could say "ani" as plural of anus.)



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Response to Autumn (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 05:36 PM

24. I think that this website is not very welcoming. Not surev I will stay.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #24)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 05:54 PM

25. And you're another poster

who would be missed here.

Thank you, JDP, for your thoughtful and informative posts . I've learned a lot from you.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #24)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 05:57 PM

26. Did I send you a PM?

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #24)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 06:04 PM

28. I totally get that...

Itís disheartening. And to think we pay for the privilege.

See #7.

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Response to Autumn (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 05:58 PM

27. Aw, jeez....

I'm offline for a day and come back to this. Manny's posts almost always made me smile -- except when they made me want to punch a wall. Sometimes they did both.

Another exile, another reason not to renew.

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Response to Autumn (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 06:10 PM

29. I'll miss Third Way Manny

He laughed at us, we laughed at him, and he laughed at himself. That's rare around here.

I think the PPR was a bum rap, but it's not my site. I'm just a barnacle around here, occasionally clinging to other people's posts.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #29)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 06:55 PM

30. To quote Manny. The stark fist of removal awaits us all.

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