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Fri Nov 20, 2015, 07:02 PM

I Just Came To Say I Love You & Good-Bye

See original thread in GD where haha, I got a post in my own thread hidden for calling out the one of the most disturbed and mendacious posters on DU.

The thing is, I don't care anymore.

I mean it. Goodbye my friends.

The thing is that in 2015, there are more effective places for the Left to do its work.

Most of y'all can figure out where to find me or who to ask to do so.

Hope to see you around soon, solidarity and fuck the neolib assholes!

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Reply I Just Came To Say I Love You & Good-Bye (Original post)
Catherina Nov 2015 OP
newfie11 Nov 2015 #1
LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #2
Autumn Nov 2015 #3
MissDeeds Nov 2015 #4
historylovr Nov 2015 #5
LiberalElite Nov 2015 #6
in_cog_ni_to Nov 2015 #7
hootinholler Nov 2015 #8
Fawke Em Nov 2015 #9
Doctor_J Nov 2015 #10
Post removed Nov 2015 #11
in_cog_ni_to Nov 2015 #15
bigwillq Nov 2015 #16
in_cog_ni_to Nov 2015 #18
bigwillq Nov 2015 #19
Fawke Em Nov 2015 #28
pacalo Nov 2015 #33
sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #53
polly7 Nov 2015 #60
TheFarS1de Nov 2015 #96
Fairgo Nov 2015 #12
Dragonfli Nov 2015 #13
Bernin4U Nov 2015 #14
sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #54
derby378 Nov 2015 #17
riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #20
rhett o rick Nov 2015 #21
sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #55
rhett o rick Nov 2015 #63
sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #87
nadinbrzezinski Nov 2015 #105
OnyxCollie Nov 2015 #22
ChiciB1 Nov 2015 #23
jalan48 Nov 2015 #24
fbc Nov 2015 #25
jalan48 Nov 2015 #26
jalan48 Nov 2015 #27
sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #56
rhett o rick Nov 2015 #64
sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #103
Live and Learn Nov 2015 #29
thebighobgoblin Nov 2015 #30
darkangel218 Nov 2015 #31
Iggo Nov 2015 #37
MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #38
sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #57
Zorra Nov 2015 #69
davidpdx Nov 2015 #98
nc4bo Nov 2015 #100
davidpdx Nov 2015 #101
nc4bo Nov 2015 #102
nc4bo Nov 2015 #99
denbot Nov 2015 #32
smokey nj Nov 2015 #34
sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #58
rhett o rick Nov 2015 #65
snooper2 Nov 2015 #104
geek tragedy Nov 2015 #62
smokey nj Nov 2015 #70
geek tragedy Nov 2015 #71
smokey nj Nov 2015 #75
geek tragedy Nov 2015 #76
merrily Nov 2015 #77
geek tragedy Nov 2015 #85
smokey nj Nov 2015 #86
polly7 Nov 2015 #88
Autumn Nov 2015 #89
LiberalAndProud Nov 2015 #92
beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #94
sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #106
Iggo Nov 2015 #35
Gregorian Nov 2015 #36
pacalo Nov 2015 #39
hay rick Nov 2015 #40
Duval Nov 2015 #41
RufusTFirefly Nov 2015 #42
zeemike Nov 2015 #43
Babel_17 Nov 2015 #44
senz Nov 2015 #45
riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #46
sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #68
riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #73
kath Nov 2015 #90
joshcryer Nov 2015 #47
merrily Nov 2015 #78
swilton Nov 2015 #48
noiretextatique Nov 2015 #49
marym625 Nov 2015 #50
DonCoquixote Nov 2015 #51
Hydra Nov 2015 #52
merrily Nov 2015 #79
polly7 Nov 2015 #59
Hepburn Nov 2015 #61
Zorra Nov 2015 #66
TM99 Nov 2015 #67
LineReply .
Wilms Nov 2015 #72
NuttyFluffers Nov 2015 #74
sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #80
emsimon33 Nov 2015 #81
Enthusiast Nov 2015 #82
cprise Nov 2015 #83
Bugenhagen Nov 2015 #84
rhett o rick Nov 2015 #91
xiamiam Nov 2015 #93
BeanMusical Nov 2015 #95
TheFarS1de Nov 2015 #97
SandersDem Nov 2015 #107
polly7 Nov 2015 #108
Zorra Nov 2015 #109

Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 07:05 PM

1. I'm sorry

I hope your back soon.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 07:06 PM

2. I think it is the insanity that is keeping me here for right now.

It is like working night shift in an emergency room. You never know what is going to happen and very high entertainment.

Take care

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 07:12 PM

3. Take care you got my contact info.

I'll get on Twitter, promise.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 07:23 PM

4. I am so sorry you are leaving

 

but I understand completely. DU has become an HRC echo chamber, even though the majority here are Bernie supporters. I said I was leaving a couple of weeks ago, but didn't go. I think I'm there now. The DU hierarchy has made it clear they are all in for Hillary, and I cannot get behind a Wall Street loving war hawk who is plagued with scandals of her own making, so I'm going to follow you out the door and look for a site that loves Democratic values and has no tolerance for DINOs and corporate hacks.

Best to you, Catherina, and I hope to see you on the other side.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 07:35 PM

5. Sorry to see you go.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 07:35 PM

6. I'm sad to see you go -

the neolibs don't confine their destruction to the broader world. They're at it in a microcosm right here.


P.S.: I have that person you referred to on full ignore.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 07:36 PM

7. Damn it. I really wish you would reconsider. I always love reading your posts and will miss them!

I just returned for the Primary after 4 (?) years away! This place has changed so much from what it use to be. It needs more people like YOU here!

I do hope you'll take a break and come back someday!

I loved your hidden post! That must have felt good. I have a loooong list of members I'd love to go off on...you hit two of them!

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 07:38 PM

8. Until we meet again

Your strong voice will be sorely missed.

SIGH

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 07:42 PM

9. You don't have to say goodbye to me!

I'll see your lovely heart on Twitter!

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 07:49 PM

10. best wishes. I will be able to tell the grandchildren that some of us fought the good fight

 

Too many democrats that are not worth associating with any more. Willing to let the party and the country go to hell because of a personal infatuation. Enjoy your next adventure

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Response to Post removed (Reply #11)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 08:05 PM

15. You're in the protected Bernie Group now.

WHY?

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Response to in_cog_ni_to (Reply #15)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 08:08 PM

16. Ok. I'll stop.

 

Have a nice evening.

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Response to bigwillq (Reply #16)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 08:15 PM

18. Thank you.

It was a mean thing to say the first time you posted it. She didn't deserve that. She's a very sweet person.

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Response to in_cog_ni_to (Reply #18)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 08:18 PM

19. It was nothing personal.

 

I say that on all the goodbye threads.

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Response to bigwillq (Reply #19)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 09:02 PM

28. Why?

Are you sick?

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #28)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 09:28 PM

33. Good 'un!

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Response to bigwillq (Reply #19)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:02 AM

53. Maybe you should think that there are real people behind those posts. That maybe there are things

going on in their lives that you don't know about. It's not that hard to ask why someone gets to the point of leaving a place they have spent so many years contributing to, making friends, doing what they can to try to make this a better country together with those friends. Did it occur to you at all that sometimes there are personal reasons why people finally say goodbye?

To be kind shouldn't be that hard ... I hope you have a nice evening. Maybe there is something going on your life that causes you to mock people who clearly are in distress, I hope not, I hope your life is as happy as possible.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #53)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 05:59 AM

60. Exactly, Sabrina.

I know that Catherina is involved in things that have truly helped many people and that she cannot stand to see what wars and neo-liberal policies do to those who are the most vulnerable - to see her trashed here at all for that has been pretty disgusting, and to see people joke about losing such a strong voice just says everything about them.

I know that I always wonder how someone is doing when I don't see them here for awhile and am glad to know they're alright .... even if they are saying goodbye.

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Response to bigwillq (Reply #19)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 09:03 PM

96. As genuine as a 2 bob watch .

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 08:00 PM

12. I will celebrate your journey

This place, this tabula rasa, has no intrinsic meaning. You bring it with you when you come, you take it with you when you go. Thank you for your contribution. Be well, do good.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 08:03 PM

13. I understand completely, you have my email and your sister has my phone Number if

you ever need anything. I gave it to her years ago, but the number has not changed.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 08:04 PM

14. I have yet to see a point to GD

And actually wouldn't mind if posters here were to make it a habit of adding a "Caution: link to GD" disclaimer.

What's funny to me is how they see us as the Teabaggers of the left. I'm pretty sure we're not the ones saying, "Keep your gov away from my Medicare!"

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Response to Bernin4U (Reply #14)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:06 AM

54. I pay no attention to people who are so obviously unhappy with their own lives they lash out

at good people. They don't see 'us' as anything other than a real threat to their candidate. They should, because we are, because people have just about enough of neoliberal policies that have destroyed so many, many lives and they are flocking to Bernie because they finally hear someone speaking for them.

We should just leave that small, disgruntled group to their unhappiness and let them lash out all they want, their opinions mean less than zero to me.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 08:13 PM

17. Please don't go completely

For a long time, DU was my on-line home. My activism has turned more local over the years, and many of my long-time DU friends have moved on. But I still show up occasionally.

There is a lot of BS to wade through, true, but I'm not done yet.

Please pop in from time to time.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 08:23 PM

20. Please take care. You're one of the best ones here

 



Hate to see them run off another.

You've spoken the truth too often and they simply can't stand it.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 08:36 PM

21. More and more progressives are leaving. Getting bullied off this site. Don't let them win. Stay

 

and fight.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #21)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:12 AM

55. Not getting bullied, just have more important things to do than wade through the mire

that this site has become. It's a minority yes, but we have important work to do and DU is no longer a place where Democratic values are supported. By a majority of members, yes, but that majority isn't welcome here anymore.

And I want to spend valuable time getting my candidate elected, not wading through bs that has zero to do with this country's future.

I and many others have definitely considered spending far less time here and spending that time signing up people for Bernie.

Leave it to those who spend their time hating and attacking other DUers. Imagine if that's all that was here? The site would die without people like Catherina, you and so many others. And I think it won't be too long before that happens.

So many other places to go where people are not so filled with hatred.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #55)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 08:43 AM

63. Wait, what? Are you leaving also? I was addressing Catherina. I agree that it's a waste of

 

time arguing with those that have nothing but blind loyalty, but that's easily remedied here. Don't post in their mire, trash them if necessary. But post in Bernie Sanders and the Progress Populist Reform Groups. It's still a place we can discuss our strategies and methods to elect Sen Sanders.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #63)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 05:57 PM

87. No, but was just pointing out that bullying isn't the reason, though they try, it's that

we have a country to worry about and a lot of people prefer to not waste time on the kind of trivia we see here.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #63)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 01:23 PM

105. A slight different tactic

 

don't hide them, don't ignore them... that way they can do their work in the dark. I speak from experience, if you ignore them they get far worst. Just don't engage them. I will make a point NOT TO ENGAGE those people, but they will never, ever, like never again go on ignore. Like EVER. And if they come visit to my site. where I have the ability, they will (in some cases again) be IP banned and their poison will never see publication there. As in never, they attack me or my readers, there is zero tolerance for that shit. I made a promise the site would be safe from bullies and it takes work, but it is.

That pisses them to no end I know, but quite frankly, bully behavior can and should be treated in only one way.zero tolerance. If not, it festers, as it has here...

Take my word though... this is by design. The bullies have a function and that is to drive those they do not like at DU away, and that is to avoid the "drama" of a permanent ban. I will keep coming back, even though I will be stalked and alerted until I get another vacation, by that band of approved bullies. And that will be until I am actually given a more permanent remedy.

The best to do with these people is that if they say hello, just walk by and pretend they do not exist. They do, but I am not going to validate their existence.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 08:37 PM

22. (sigh)

 

I know we'll meet again, some sunny day.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 08:38 PM

23. I Understand Exactly Why You Want To Leave, It's Gotten So VERY

difficult coming here these days. I've left many times before myself, but what I'm seeing her at DU now is extremely toxic. So many times I've begun to feel like I'm blogging at a Repub blog. Not sure it should be called DEMOCRATIC Underground anymore, it's begun to lean so far to the right. I've been a Democrat all my life and that's many, many years... I don't recognize these new type of Democrats.

I'll be posting less and less myself. I don't think I recognize this country anymore, and I am VERY AFRAID where we're headed.

WAR, WAR, AND MORE WAR! Neoliberal, Third Way & DLC. Not the Democratic Party I know anymore.

Hope you find some peace, but it seems hard to escape any of what going on because our own Democratic Party has made the decision that we should have only ONE candidate and the other two can go pound salt. THIS isn't DEMOCRATIC!

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 08:40 PM

24. I understand.

We went through this same crap in 1968 with Humphrey and his support for the Vietnam War. The Democratic establishment loved war back then and they still do today it appears. Guess what happened to Humphrey in the general election?

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #24)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 08:51 PM

25. This is a pro-Bernie forum.

 

It seems to me that Sanders supporters outnumber Clinton supporters by like 10-1 on DU.

What's with the victim stuff?

edit: that wasn't aimed at you jalan48, i hit the wrong reply button.

it was meant for everyone posting on this thread.

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Response to fbc (Reply #25)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 08:54 PM

26. I don't follow you-I'm pro Bernie as well. Mis-communication?

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Response to fbc (Reply #25)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 08:55 PM

27. My bad-only the first half of your post showed up and that's what I was responding to.

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Response to fbc (Reply #25)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:18 AM

56. 'victim stuff'? What do you mean by that? I'm no victim, never was, never will be nor are any of

the great people who BUILT this site, without whom no one would bother to come here. Catherina is one of those people.

But when a site loses its ability to make a difference, then it may be time to leave it behind, and spend that valuable time getting things done. That's all I see people here saying. No one needs to waste time wading through hateful personal attacks on Democrats. If I want to do that, I know where to go, and sometimes I do just for the hell of it. I like a good fight with Right Wingers, they are so easy. But THIS is supposed to be a place for Democrats.

I just wish the owners would make a statement saying that Bernie supporters are not welcome here. That is a majority of DUers right now, but it would be fair to tell people directly, rather than allow some of the trolling that goes on.

Maybe it's time to ask them so we all know where we stand. I am here mainly because of all the good people who are still here. But as more and more leave, the incentive to waste any more time, isn't as strong.

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Response to fbc (Reply #25)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 08:48 AM

64. How strange that you don't notice that the minority seems to be dedicated to alerting, locking,

 

hiding, censoring, and banning. When do you ever see them discussing issues? They aren't here to discuss issues. They even have a separate site from DU where they can make plans.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #64)

Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:30 AM

103. Desperation is the reason for that. No one has to behave that way if they are

confident in their candidate. Every action I've seen, from that awful site to the stalking and alerting and the one liners and the negativity, tells me that they are unable to promote their candidate and are desperately trying to distract from that.

I'm so glad to have a candidate I don't need to worry about. I can answer people's questions about his record, and know that people will be impressed once they get to know him.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 09:03 PM

29. I really wish you wouldn't leave completely.

I love your posts and they do make a difference. I take many of the things I learn here with me when I do tableing and flyering so your posts are getting around. I also share many of the articles posted with Bernie supporters in other forums.

So, I beg you. Use the ignore button and visit the Bernie group only if you like but please don't stop sharing your knowledge with us.

I really do understand and doubt I will stay if Hillary becomes the nominee but until then I need all of the info I can get and DU is still a great place for that and you are one of the ones that make it so.

So please, please for me, stay a while.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 09:17 PM

30. They should rename this place...BERNIE SANDERS UNDERGROUND

 

Because that's what it feels like. It's not representative of the democratic party.

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Response to thebighobgoblin (Reply #30)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 09:19 PM

31. You are posting in a protected group. Please delete.

 

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Response to thebighobgoblin (Reply #30)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 09:39 PM

37. It's the Bernie Sanders group, duh.

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Response to thebighobgoblin (Reply #30)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 09:44 PM

38. Please remove your misdirected posts...

Then, have a good cry, dear...

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Response to thebighobgoblin (Reply #30)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:20 AM

57. No it doesn't feel like a democratic site anymore. If it were not for Sanders, most of us

wouldn't be here anymore. Sanders is the best Democratic candidate we've had the privilege to vote for for a very long time.

And you are in the Bernie Sanders Group which you may not have realized.

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Response to thebighobgoblin (Reply #30)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:48 AM

69. I can help you with this.

dem·o·crat·ic
democratic

ˌdeməˈkradik/
adjective
adjective: democratic; adjective: Democratic

1. of, relating to, or supporting democracy or its principles.
"democratic reforms"
synonyms: elected, representative, popular, parliamentary; More
egalitarian, classless;
self-governing, autonomous, republican
"a young democratic government"
favoring or characterized by social equality; egalitarian.
"cycling is a democratic activity that can be enjoyed by anyone"
2.
of or relating to the Democratic Party.

Origin
early 17th century: from French démocratique, via medieval Latin from Greek dēmokratikos, from dēmokratia (see democracy).


noun
noun: Underground; plural noun: Undergrounds; noun: the Underground
ˈəndərˌɡround/

1. a group or movement organized secretly to work against an existing regime.
"I got involved with the French underground"

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Response to thebighobgoblin (Reply #30)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 09:18 PM

98. The results

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service
Mail Message
On Sat Nov 21, 2015, 08:06 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

They should rename this place...BERNIE SANDERS UNDERGROUND
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=76418

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Insinuating in the Sanders group that Sanders is not a democrat . He is running on the D ticket . This is complete flame bait . Please review .

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Nov 21, 2015, 08:15 PM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Though it is a very stupid, immature and completely fictitious opinion, the DUer has the right to say it.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The poster does NOT insinuate that sanders is not a democrat; the poster is simply asserting that Clinton holds a sizable lead with Democratic voters and that DU is not reflective of democratic party at large. Love t or hate it, at this moment in time all of the reputable polling shows this
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Ummm.......saying this stupid stuff especially in a protected group = non-respectful.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Perhaps you might think about how many Democrats are supporting Senator Sanders, as well as the fact that he is running on the Democratic Party's ticket.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The statement is about the current atmosphere of DU, not Senator Sanders. The past few days there has been multiple posts outright stating that Hillary Clinton is no longer a Democrat. I recommend engaging and discussing with the poster rather than alerting because you disagree.

I happened to not see this was in the Sanders Group and would have voted to hide had I noticed that. I hope the group host will just block the person.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #98)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 09:21 PM

100. You beat me to it! nt

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Response to nc4bo (Reply #100)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 09:26 PM

101. I was juror 2, you?

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #101)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 09:29 PM

102. #4. #2 is much more eloquent than I could ever be. ETA

That's why I think some missed that the alert was in a protected group.

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Response to thebighobgoblin (Reply #30)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 09:20 PM

99. Lucky you. You survived an alert, barely.

This IS a protected group after all...........the gatekeepers may or may not let it ride. Not sure if all the jury realized this was a protected group or just regular GDPee.

Anywho, carryon.....
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On Sat Nov 21, 2015, 08:06 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

They should rename this place...BERNIE SANDERS UNDERGROUND
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=76418

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Insinuating in the Sanders group that Sanders is not a democrat . He is running on the D ticket . This is complete flame bait . Please review .

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Nov 21, 2015, 08:15 PM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Though it is a very stupid, immature and completely fictitious opinion, the DUer has the right to say it.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The poster does NOT insinuate that sanders is not a democrat; the poster is simply asserting that Clinton holds a sizable lead with Democratic voters and that DU is not reflective of democratic party at large. Love t or hate it, at this moment in time all of the reputable polling shows this
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Ummm.......saying this stupid stuff especially in a protected group = non-respectful.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Perhaps you might think about how many Democrats are supporting Senator Sanders, as well as the fact that he is running on the Democratic Party's ticket.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The statement is about the current atmosphere of DU, not Senator Sanders. The past few days there has been multiple posts outright stating that Hillary Clinton is no longer a Democrat. I recommend engaging and discussing with the poster rather than alerting because you disagree.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 09:20 PM

32. Happy trails

Peace.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 09:38 PM

34. We received an SOP alert on this thread. The hosts of this group disagree with the alerter and will

not lock it.

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Response to smokey nj (Reply #34)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:22 AM

58. Thank you. Why should what goes on in this group bother anyone other than those who are

members of the group??

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #58)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 08:56 AM

65. I know that's a rhetorical question. One of the tactics is to closely monitor this group

 

and alert whenever possible. I posted here once and mistakenly linked to a post in the hosts forum. My copy and past failed me. No one could read the post other than hosts and I immediately got posts indicating something wrong. I fixed the error in less that 5 minutes, but someone alerted on me for linking to a post in the host forum (which isn't even verboten). My point is that someone was monitoring this group very closely.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #65)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 11:48 AM

104. We're making a list! Checking it twice! Seeing which socialists are naughty or nice!

 

Bernie may not come to...your town.

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Response to smokey nj (Reply #34)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 08:39 AM

62. How is this post about Bernie Sanders and what he has to offer the country? nt

 

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #62)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:48 AM

70. Catherina is a valued participant in this group.

Some people could drop off and they wouldn't be missed, Catherina isn't one of them.

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Response to smokey nj (Reply #70)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:58 AM

71. Is this a group about Bernie Sanders or a high school clique?

 

Some people could drop off and they wouldn't be missed, Catherina isn't one of them.


Some are more equal than others.

The mission of the Bernie Sanders Group is to discuss information and news about the life, career, accomplishments, and current campaign for the Democratic Party's Nomination in 2016 of Bernie Sanders. The Bernie Sanders Group will provide a haven for those members of Democratic Underground who support the Senator Sanders and his policies; to discuss his policy positions, speeches, interviews, and other public appearances; to discuss Senator Sanders 2016 Democratic nomination campaign; and to discuss the causes which Senator Sanders has championed.


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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #71)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:50 PM

75. If you don't like the way the group is managed, feel free not to participate.

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Response to smokey nj (Reply #75)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:51 PM

76. So, the latter, thanks for answering, have a nice day nt

 

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Response to smokey nj (Reply #75)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 02:10 PM

77. Long time, no see, smokey nj. Still love ya, though.

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Response to smokey nj (Reply #75)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 05:37 PM

85. P.S. Shocking to see people who purport to support Bernie supporting this:

 

https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&q=catherina21215%20mistresses&src=typd

Money quote from your good friend Catherina about posters at DU:

Fuck those house ni**ers and their Plantation Mistresses.


Note: that word is spelled out at the Twitter post.

If this is what the hosts of the Bernie Sanders group really think this group should be promoting, go ahead and include this Bernie Sanders supporter out.

And, if she's actually black, I'm Malcolm X.

Previous Twitter account (Russian)

https://twitter.com/Catherina_News

And, yes, I have a screenshot.

Anyhow, hatred and racist rhetoric is not something Bernie supports. You all need to do better.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #85)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 05:47 PM

86. Catherina is a person of color.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #85)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 06:13 PM

88. You need to go stir your shit somewhere else.

Catherina brought more to this board than all her 'hater club' put together. But we know that speaking up about suffering people around the world doesn't really concern some here at all when their own lives are perfectly fine and the status quo just .......... works!

I have no say here, obviously, but I hope your posts are noticed.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #85)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 06:18 PM

89. Well hello Malcolm X. I have contact with her in real life, out side of social media

Last edited Sat Nov 21, 2015, 06:56 PM - Edit history (1)

I can assure you, Catherina is black.

from your post
And, if she's actually black, I'm Malcolm X.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #85)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 07:08 PM

92. You know, I've honestly tried to ignore the awful, soul searing posts members fling around here

but "if she's actually black" is so far beyond what I find to be acceptable community standards, I can't begin to express my outrage. This post survived a jury and that says too much about what DU has become in these primary wars.

geek tragedy, I've thought better of you in the past. I hope to think better of you again in the future.

As for whether I support Catherina's latest tantrum and her choice of language, I would say not. But I have always thought very well of Catherina, outside of the current viciousness, as well.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #85)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 08:29 PM

94. I second what LiberalandProud posted.

It takes a lot of nerve to accuse a person of pretending to be black. And to do so for the sole purpose of discrediting her here.

I disagree with what Catherina tweeted but I don't lecture black folks on what language they can and cannot use.

And it's certainly not your place or mine to accuse them of not being black or black enough.

Your exploitation of her race in this context is disturbing and illiberal.

You lost the right to lecture anyone here after that disgusting accusation.


That's all I'm going to say on this subject.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #62)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 01:34 PM

106. I'm glad to see that you have changed your mind about OWS and have apparently joined

Bernie, who was one of the first elected officials to publicly support OWS, who is widely viewed as the Candidate that OWS envisioned. They are now working in every state for Bernie.

What changed your mind if you don't mind me asking?

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 09:38 PM

35. Take it easy, kiddo.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 09:39 PM

36. Thank you for sharing this. It took courage.

I share your sentiments. Lots of good has happened here. Now it's emotional and divided. The goals should still be the same. For the least of us.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 09:53 PM

39. I hate to see you go, Catherina.

I think very highly of you. Just let this be a break, please!



Take care.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 09:57 PM

40. Civil discussion is consistently, systematically sabotaged here.

I still come here because other posters point me to all kinds of interesting material that I would likely miss otherwise. I refrain from commenting on or even viewing a host of threads here. I hope you will reconsider, but understand if you don't. DU can be a valuable resource or a toxic energy sink. Good luck and best wishes.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 10:03 PM

41. I'm sorry, Catherina, but I understand.

 

I also hope to see you in the future when things settle down.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 10:13 PM

42. You made the right choice, Catherina!

I always enjoyed your informative, principled posts.

Although I haven't officially left yet, I've essentially eliminated DU from my daily routine.

Life is too short to try to keep countering smug neo-cons masquerading as Democrats.

I'm reminded of an episode from the old Mary Tyler Moore show, where Rhoda takes her first sick day in nine years. The previous time, she explains, she watched a soap opera, where a woman was having a baby. "I watched today," she tells Mary, "and that woman is still having the same baby!"

That was essentially my reaction upon returning to DU after an extended absence. Nothing had really changed. No real progress had been made. It was still the same petty, depressing, corrosive environment I left.

There are still many here who are valiantly fighting the good fight, but they are undermined left and right by the messengers of the rich, privileged, and powerful.

¡Buena suerte!



RTF

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 10:21 PM

43. Well it is a sad day for me.

Because I enjoyed your posts and found them informed and to the point.
But I do understand...DU has lost the U.
Which always seems to happen...we start out so young and strong, only to surrender. As Jackson Brown put it.

All things are assimilated by the Borg, and DU is there.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 10:23 PM

44. Best wishes

This isn't the Night's Watch, you don't owe it to serve here forever. New opportunities await, I know your efforts will be appreciated.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 11:13 PM

45. I learned a lot from you, Catherina

 

and will really miss your intelligent, well-documented OPs and the times we just chatted. I was so happy to learn that your cautious Hillary-fan mother finally felt the Bern and came around to the better candidate. Am glad he has you on his side.

We've been fortunate to know you here. Hope you'll drop in with news or just to say hi.

Take care, and maybe see you on Twitter one of these days...

((((Catherina))))

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 11:40 PM

46. Catherine's GD good bye post now locked. Is that a first? A locked GB?

 



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Response to riderinthestorm (Reply #46)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:18 AM

68. I was wondering the same thing. Why was it locked?

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #68)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:03 PM

73. Locked for being "off topic". I've never seen it before

 



I actually read all the goodbye threads. I feel badly when people leave.

Especially if they've been treated badly.

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Response to riderinthestorm (Reply #73)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 06:42 PM

90. Wow. What the fuckity-fuck?

Have NEVER seen a goodbye thread locked, and there have been lots of them.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 11:53 PM

47. "one of the most disturbed and mendacious posters on DU"

Had to look that word up.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #47)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 02:13 PM

78. Lucky you. I'm thrilled when I learn something via DU.

Used to happen a lot. Now, not so much.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:27 AM

48. Take Care

 

Sorry to see you go!

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:28 AM

49. Love you too and fuck them

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:30 AM

50. What a sad day for us.

I understand why and you'll be sorely missed. It's a great loss to du and all of us sane people.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:34 AM

51. I can understand completely why you would go

I only offer one thing; when you go, even though those people SHOULD see it as shame, they will see it as proof they are right, and go ahead and despoil every green, clean space like a bunch of locusts.

Sadly, these are the same people that their centre right masters and mistress will drag into the slaughterhouse, so that the rich can have their bacon.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:52 AM

52. You did good here, it was a pleasure to read your posts

Frankly, I'm surprised I haven't gotten banned over the years, but the real fight is not here. It IS a fight getting the info out here now, though, which is a shame.

Solidarity!

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Response to Hydra (Reply #52)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 02:14 PM

79. +1

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 04:30 AM

59. Awww, Catherina.

I'm so sorry you're leaving, this really, really hurts to see. I've loved every thread, every post you've made on here and know how hard you've worked to help those suffering terribly in RL. Your heart is huge and your intelligence and passion are unmatched by most .... especially those who've tried their best to bring you down. Fuck those posters is right, they're not worth one second of your time - I don't blame you a bit for thinking that way but I'm so sorry - DU has lost one of it's strongest, most valuable voices and many of us are going to miss you so, so much.

You talked me into staying when I really let them get to me, I'll never forget your encouragement or kindness and will always hope to speak to you again somehow. Crying here ... this is so sad, but I know you have many more opportunities to do good, and that you are.

I LOVE YOU, and could you please say hi to N if you see her.





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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 08:05 AM

61. Sad to see you go...but I understand

The attacks are awful. And the bannings are even worse. Post anything negative about HRC and expect an alert, IMO.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:55 AM

66. I get it. Yes, fuck the neoliberal assholes. They have already driven

many of the best posters off this board, and they have turned what was once democratic underground into mindless authoritarian trollhaven.

Love you, hermana, I'll be in touch.

Solidarity!

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:16 AM

67. I expressed once but will do so again

 

that it is a damned shame to see your voice leave these forums.

I am so sad to see you leave. I will keep in touch via Twitter.

The neoliberalism is shining through more and more each day. I lurked here for many years before posting. To see so many posts cheerleading the neocon foreign policy stances of Clinton is appalling. To see so many posts basically saying with regards to taxes and healthcare, I got mine, fuck you(!), is appalling. To see so many posts clamor for more authoritarian surveillance, is appalling.

We will keep fighting them no matter how lost the campaign appears at times.

Stay strong and happy out there. You will be missed.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:02 PM

72. .

 

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:25 PM

74. a toast! to the fucking of assholes!


...
(i should have listened more to the advice of toastmasters...)

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 02:30 PM

80. I love this quote from Bernie that Catherina has in her profile:

There are times that one wishes one was smarter than one is so that when one looks out at the world and sees the problems one wishes one knew the answers and I don\'t know the answers. I think sometimes one wishes one was dumber than one is so one doesn\'t have to look out into the world and see the pain that\'s out there and the horrible situations that are out there, and not know what to do - Bernie Sanders

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 03:00 PM

81. Yes!!!! "FUCK the neolib assholes"

Soon it will just be them here in their own small echo chamber.

You will be missed!

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 03:08 PM

82. I hate hate hate to see you go.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 03:51 PM

83. I love you, too, Catherina

Please consider coming back after a while.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 03:55 PM

84. Take care

You are easily one of my favorite posters.
I wish you the best in health, happiness and contentment.
Bugenhagen

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 06:52 PM

91. To any others that think they have to leave because of the neolibs tactics, stay and post in the

 

Bernie Sanders and Populist Reform Group. Trash GD and GD and put them on ignore.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 07:30 PM

93. sorry to see you leave...I understand however..

I used to take this place seriously...I'm not on twitter but if you pm me I will give you my email and you can put me on your list..I think I belong on the conscious paying attention can't be bought list....which is where I would put you if I had such a thing. Happy trails..I wish you great joy and peace and love and justice...you are a true gem

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 08:56 PM

95. You will be missed.

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Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:16 PM

107. Please

come back and let me know when and where you find it. I truly am looking for a place where we can work together to restore what was once a great Party and work to exorcise the Third Way. I am a lifelong Democrat and never before have I ever even entertained the thought of leaving my Party. It doesn't just need to be about Bernie, although I am in a place where I simply hope that his mission will win out and he will be our next President.

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