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Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 08:50 PM Nov 2015

Sanders has twice as many female donors as Hillary...

60% of Clinton's small donors are women, she made a point of stating that fact during the debate last night with a response of thunderous applause.

Unfortunately, it's a moot point.

Compared to Sanders she still has a significantly lower net number of women donating to her campaign.

So far she has collected 13 million dollars in small (under 200$) donations. Let's assume that all donations are equal, that would mean that 7,800,000$ came from women.

Sanders has raised 41 million in small donations. Let's assume that Clinton's donors and Sander's donors contribute the same amount per person. In order for Clinton to have more women donors than Sanders less than 18.7% (7.8/42 * 100) of his donors would have to be women.

In fact, 40% of Sander's donors are female. Thus, Sanders has over twice as many female donors than Clinton.



https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/3sx5jr/sanders_has_twice_as_many_female_donors_than/

Can anyone here check the math on this one. It looks accurate to me, but I admit that math isn't my favorite subject, however I do enjoy polling stats.

If so - maybe the media needs to become aware of this fact.

On Edit: My AP Stats whiz kid son just came and checked it and said if what the poster said is accurate, then the math is accurate: Sanders has more female donors than Clinton.
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Sanders has twice as many female donors as Hillary... (Original Post) Fawke Em Nov 2015 OP
Interesting, but not surprising, if you think about it. merrily Nov 2015 #1
Not at all. Fawke Em Nov 2015 #2
But Hillary Bought More Twitter Followers billhicks76 Nov 2015 #19
So then its true then......... nolabels Nov 2015 #23
LOL. Fawke Em Nov 2015 #27
Wow, if that is true it deserves a lot of national attention dreamnightwind Nov 2015 #3
Well you ain't going to get any help from the corp-media that supports the corp-candidate. nm rhett o rick Nov 2015 #10
Women.... LovingA2andMI Nov 2015 #4
Myself and all the women zentrum Nov 2015 #5
I always have donated to campaigns, Greybnk48 Nov 2015 #6
Same here. zentrum Nov 2015 #7
That is true for me as well! Melissa G Nov 2015 #9
Female and ditto here. Hepburn Nov 2015 #30
Count me in! I also am doing an automatic monthly. lostnfound Nov 2015 #31
Makes me proud of my fellow women. senz Nov 2015 #8
oops. another bogus non stat from Mrs Clinton Doctor_J Nov 2015 #11
Back of the envelope math but it looks good from here. jhart3333 Nov 2015 #12
My son explained it the same way. Fawke Em Nov 2015 #13
I saw that after I was done. Posted anyway. jhart3333 Nov 2015 #16
The media is all in for the 1%er... Thespian2 Nov 2015 #22
Quelle surprise, she lied . . . 90% of her contributions came from corporations. Major Hogwash Nov 2015 #14
Corporations can't donate to her campaign Jim Lane Nov 2015 #26
Thank you for posting! I suspected as much but had no idea how to research it. I hope he picks up DiehardLiberal Nov 2015 #15
And I absolutely agree with this Tweet... SoapBox Nov 2015 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author postatomic Nov 2015 #18
There ya had to go and spoil all the fun! AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #20
That does not surprise me, that verifies the issues... ALL the issues.... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #21
Yeah, but Bernie's female donors all suffer from Stockholm Syndrome and yearn for patriarchy progree Nov 2015 #24
But-but-but I thought that he was sexist? BeanMusical Nov 2015 #25
Nigel Tufnel... Fawke Em Nov 2015 #28
Lol! BeanMusical Nov 2015 #29

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
23. So then its true then.........
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 11:32 PM
Nov 2015

Most billionaires and hedge fund managers are actually space aliens

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
3. Wow, if that is true it deserves a lot of national attention
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 09:07 PM
Nov 2015

Thanks for the OP, I will watch the thread to see if this checks out.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
5. Myself and all the women
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 09:39 PM
Nov 2015

….in my family give to Bernie. Not that that makes your point, but I meet so many women who do give to Bernie. In fact, almost everyone I've met in the street or at a table staffed for Bernie is a woman. Will follow this thread.

Greybnk48

(10,167 posts)
6. I always have donated to campaigns,
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 09:53 PM
Nov 2015

but for Bernie I have a monthly automatic recurring donation for the first time in my life. Actually, this is the first time I have not felt a need to keep tight control on my donations since with Bernie I KNOW I won't regret it.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
7. Same here.
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 09:59 PM
Nov 2015

Bought his swag too. But I'm careful to never give to the DNC or the DCCC anymore. I give to only individuals.

Melissa G

(10,170 posts)
9. That is true for me as well!
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 10:03 PM
Nov 2015

Another woman donating regularly to Bernie and planning on going the distance of this campaign with him!

Hepburn

(21,054 posts)
30. Female and ditto here.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:01 AM
Nov 2015

Normally, I would just give a donation when I thought about it and I always wanted to make sure that the candidate was still right on the money on the issues that I care about.

This time, an automatic monthly Bernie donation! I know he will do the right thing!

lostnfound

(16,176 posts)
31. Count me in! I also am doing an automatic monthly.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 10:50 AM
Nov 2015

There is no medicine better for what ails us, at the present time.

jhart3333

(332 posts)
12. Back of the envelope math but it looks good from here.
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 10:14 PM
Nov 2015

If you want to know what percentage 7.8m is of 41m you divide 7.8 by 41 and then multiply by 100. Let's try it with some easy numbers:

3 / 10 = .3

.3 x 100 = 30(%)

This is what they did sort of. They used 42 instead(Maybe it's 41,900,000 and they rounded up? I don't know.) which might be confusing you. Lets use 41m instead:

7.8 / 41 = 0.190

0.190 x 100 = 19(%)

In order for all of this to work we have to assume that the amounts given by small donors are the same on average for Bernie and Hillary. This seems like a reasonable assumption for back of the envelope calculations. So we're saying that in order for Bernie to have the same number of women donors as Hillary, his percentage of women donors would have to be 19%. But it's not. It's more than double that: 40%. So Bernie has twice as many women donors as Hillary.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
13. My son explained it the same way.
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 10:25 PM
Nov 2015

I think this is accurate.

Now - how do we show the media so they'll understand it?

I'm a former reporter - most of us like composition (shocking, I know! LOL) rather than math.

But, I get it. It shouldn't be that difficult to understand.

jhart3333

(332 posts)
16. I saw that after I was done. Posted anyway.
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 10:33 PM
Nov 2015

That quote comes to mind:

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”
- Upton Sinclair

Present company excepted.

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
22. The media is all in for the 1%er...
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 11:27 PM
Nov 2015

Corporations own the media...the 1%er is their candidate...the surprise is that so many people know who Bernie is and donate to him...

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
14. Quelle surprise, she lied . . . 90% of her contributions came from corporations.
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 10:30 PM
Nov 2015

She can't possibly know which small donors are women, unless she is looking at personal checks!!
So, this is the second biggest lie she has told so far.
Well, maybe the third biggest, there are so many to try and keep track of!!!

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
26. Corporations can't donate to her campaign
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 12:52 AM
Nov 2015

What's usually listed as "American Express" or the like means employees of American Express.

DiehardLiberal

(580 posts)
15. Thank you for posting! I suspected as much but had no idea how to research it. I hope he picks up
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 10:31 PM
Nov 2015

the ball on this meme.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
17. And I absolutely agree with this Tweet...
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 10:42 PM
Nov 2015

"Pundits, naysayers & cronies have no idea of the strength and diversity of the #grassroots support behind #Bernie2016. #BernieTsunami"

This goes with how I've been feeling for weeks, that the true support for Bernie is very much underestimated.

Response to Fawke Em (Original post)

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
21. That does not surprise me, that verifies the issues... ALL the issues....
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 11:24 PM
Nov 2015

What female, or head of household would not benefit from a Bernie Sanders economic plan with campaign finance reform in the wings of an honest path to equal playing field, both in the labor market, but future sustainable industries?

The machinations over what his policy might mean are going on, but anyone paying attention to the real issues sees how this helps the family, the fair chance for working men AND WOMEN!

progree

(10,903 posts)
24. Yeah, but Bernie's female donors all suffer from Stockholm Syndrome and yearn for patriarchy
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 11:52 PM
Nov 2015

and all that and so forth and so on. Right?

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